Why do we take Murata '''statements''' seriously if he literally said that its just his opinions?

[GreatIskandar14045]

I don't really give a shit if this will gets accepted or not. But I'll express my thoughts here.

Everything should be evaluated case by case, you don't disregard the entirity feats of one fiction because there are notable outliers and inconsistencies, you don't disregard the entirity of statements because there are hyperboles and metaphores. Murata didn't always make statements with just guessing or mere opinions as an artist, he also explained stuffs on what happened within the manga panels he drew, for example, sub-light rocks from Geryuganshoop is what it is in Murata's works along with literally any monsters or feats he made dozillions times more powerful than the original version.

You filter them, not abandoning them all at once, that's just plain dumb. He's still the part of the project, if he doesn't make it sounds like opinions and there's literally no contradiction that means we can take them. Cheers~

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[Emirp sumitpo]

I know, and why the mangaka can't say a thing or two for his manga?

Because he states it as his just his opinion, admits that he's not a reliable source and that guidebooks and ONE are more reliable sources than him

 

[Deviruman666]

Volume 2 of OPM. Murata doesn't draw for Jump.

Find more about that one.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I don't really give a shit if this will gets accepted or not. But I'll share my thoughts here.

Everything should be evaluated case by case, you don't disregard the entirity feats of one fiction because there are notable outliers and inconsistencies, you don't disregard the entirity of statements because there are hyperboles and metaphores. Murata didn't always make statements with just guessing or mere opinions as an artist, he also explained stuffs on happened within the manga panels he drew, for example, sub-light rocks from Geryuganshoop is what it is in Murata's works along with literally any monsters or feats he made dozillions times more powerful than the original version.

You filter them, not abandoning them all at once, that's just plain dumb. He's still the part of the project, if he doesn't make it sounds like opinions and there are literally no contradiction we can take them. Cheers~

This. I think it's a bit too far to outright discard Murata's opinions, I'd say we still stick with possibly, but if it gets discarded then I wouldn't mind tbh.

 

[Kachon123]

Find more about that one.

Or you can look for more info by yourself since you want to make statements without any knowledge

 

[Deviruman666]

Or you can yourself since you want to make statements without any knowledge

Say from someone only give a scan from 1 panel manga.
Poor me.

 

[Kachon123]

Say from someone only give a scan from 1 panel manga.
Poor me.

I mean, you can say whatever you want, but your opinions don't mean anything if they don't have any bases. Do research or have at least basic knowledge before saying stuff you don't know about. Don't be surprised when people ignore you, or just don't listen to you if you're going to have an attitude like that paired with lack of basic info.

 

[TheLastStylebender]

I don't really give a shit if this will gets accepted or not. But I'll share my thoughts here.

Everything should be evaluated case by case, you don't disregard the entirity feats of one fiction because there are notable outliers and inconsistencies, you don't disregard the entirity of statements because there are hyperboles and metaphores. Murata didn't always make statements with just guessing or mere opinions as an artist, he also explained stuffs on happened within the manga panels he drew, for example, sub-light rocks from Geryuganshoop is what it is in Murata's works along with literally any monsters or feats he made dozillions times more powerful than the original version.

You filter them, not abandoning them all at once, that's just plain dumb. He's still the part of the project, if he doesn't make it sounds like opinions and there are literally no contradiction we can take them. Cheers~

Agree,we must take his word case by case

 

[The_Alxhemist]

You filter them, not abandoning them all at once, that's just plain dumb. He's still the part of the project, if he doesn't make it sounds like opinions and there's literally no contradiction that means we can take them. Cheers~

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You couldn't have said it any better. This is what LordTracer and myself was trying to make clear to the Bern in the last OPM CRT about Orochi being a Dragon+ Threat

 

[LordTracer]

I don't really give a shit if this will gets accepted or not. But I'll express my thoughts here.

Everything should be evaluated case by case, you don't disregard the entirity feats of one fiction because there are notable outliers and inconsistencies, you don't disregard the entirity of statements because there are hyperboles and metaphores. Murata didn't always make statements with just guessing or mere opinions as an artist, he also explained stuffs on what happened within the manga panels he drew, for example, sub-light rocks from Geryuganshoop is what it is in Murata's works along with literally any monsters or feats he made dozillions times more powerful than the original version.

You filter them, not abandoning them all at once, that's just plain dumb. He's still the part of the project, if he doesn't make it sounds like opinions and there's literally no contradiction that means we can take them. Cheers~

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100% this. Murata’s statements work fine as being “possibly” things as long as they aren’t directly contradicted, like his statement of Bomb being stronger than Bang or Evil Eye being stronger than Fubuki.

 

[Kachon123]

yes.

 

[Bernkastelll]

I don't really give a shit if this will gets accepted or not. But I'll express my thoughts here.

Everything should be evaluated case by case, you don't disregard the entirity feats of one fiction because there are notable outliers and inconsistencies, you don't disregard the entirity of statements because there are hyperboles and metaphores. Murata didn't always make statements with just guessing or mere opinions as an artist, he also explained stuffs on what happened within the manga panels he drew, for example, sub-light rocks from Geryuganshoop is what it is in Murata's works along with literally any monsters or feats he made dozillions times more powerful than the original version.

You filter them, not abandoning them all at once, that's just plain dumb. He's still the part of the project, if he doesn't make it sounds like opinions and there's literally no contradiction that means we can take them. Cheers~

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Murata still is only the guy drawing, the story comes from ONE, I disagree with taking Mjrata word

 

[Bernkastelll]

This. I think it's a bit too far to outright discard Murata's opinions, I'd say we still stick with possibly, but if it gets discarded then I wouldn't mind tbh.

Again, its only opinions, irrelevant

 

[GreatIskandar14045]

Murata still is only the guy drawing, the story comes from ONE, I disagree with taking Mjrata word

Can you elaborate with slightly more logical reasonings?

 

[Bernkastelll]

You couldn't have said it any better. This is what LordTracer and myself was trying to make clear to the Bern in the last OPM CRT about Orochi being a Dragon+ Threat

Its only Murata opinion.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Can you elaborate with slightly more logical reasonings?

What does need to be elaborated?

 

[GreatIskandar14045]

You literally are just spamming "it's only his opinion!" without even care to elaborate why all of his statements are, lol.

 

[Bernkastelll]

You literally just spamming "it's only his opinion!" without even care to elaborate why all of his statements are, lol.

Because according to himself, the things that he says are only his opinions, and obviously it makes sense, as he is just the guy drawing

 

[GreatIskandar14045]

Because according to himself, the things that he says are only his opinions, and obviously it makes sense, as he is just the guy drawing

But what more make sense is he is the one who drew what he drawn, he can tell what happened within the manga panels and obviously, we can differentiate what are his opinions and what aren't since he always uses "I guess" whenever he give ones, like that "can Saitama destroy earth?" for an example.

 

[Bernkastelll]

But what more makes sense is he is the one who drew what he drawn, he can tell what happened within the panels and obviously, we can differentiate what are his opinions and what aren't since he always uses "I guess" whenever he give ones, like that "can Saitama destroy earth" for an example.

He is just drawing, why are his thoughts relevant? He even said things like evil eye >>> fubuki, so, no, thats not relevant

 

[GreatIskandar14045]

He is just drawing, why are his thoughts relevant? He even said things like evil eye >>> fubuki, so, no, thats not relevant

Because he is the part of the project, he is the one who's drawing so most of the part he knows what he's saying, he knows things that we don't. He's a careful person when giving thoughts that he always uses "maybe" or "I guess", so we can tell when he's just giving opinions anytime lol.

I see no reason to assume Evil Eye >>> Fubuki is invalid on narrative view.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Because he is the part of the project, he is the one who's drawing so most of the part he knows what he's saying,

Nope, he is just drawing, this is the same thing that saying that all people who draw art to the owner of thw verse are reliable source, but thats not true, he is just drawing

 

[GreatIskandar14045]

Nope, he is just drawing, this is the same thing that saying that all people who draw art to the owner of thw verse are reliable source, but thats not true, he is just drawing

You seriously are getting on my nerves rn if you can't give better reasoning but "nope, he is just drawing!" fr. Regardless he's (not just) drawing he's still working together with the author. ONE wouldn't let him to make random claims so what exactly is the basis that all of his statements are just headcanons?

 

[Kin201]

Murata's statements should obviously be taken case by case instead of completely discarding them.

 

[Bernkastelll]

You seriously are getting on my nerves rn if you can't give better reasoning but "nope, he is just drawing!" fr. Regardless he's (not just) drawing he's still working together with the author. ONE wouldn't let him to make random claims so what exactly is the basis that all of his statements are just headcanons?

Working together u mean just drawing, still no proof that he is a reliable source with his "guesses", and the bases that his statements are headcanon is Murata own word and the fact that he isnt author

 

[GreatIskandar14045]

Working together u mean just drawing, still no proof that he is a reliable source with his "guesses", and the bases that his statements are headcanon is Murata own word and the fact that he isnt author

You obviously can't be this stonehead. I'm done with you.

 

[Bernkastelll]

You obviously can't be this stonehead. I'm done with you.

Cool

 

[Yar_R_agi_7k]

Eh please don't fight each other... ı think we need more staff here

 

[TheLastStylebender]

Working together u mean just drawing, still no proof that he is a reliable source with his "guesses", and the bases that his statements are headcanon is Murata own word and the fact that he isnt author

Did u read he only guees in that stream? so we must take his words case by case is completely dumb if we remove all his words

 

[Bernkastelll]

Did u read he only guees in that stream? so we must take his words case by case is completely dumb if we remove all his words

Nope, he isnt WoG to take it in consideration

 

[GreatIskandar14045]

Where's the rule that only author can make "consideration" and other staffs don't?

 

[Bernkastelll]

Where is the rule that shows that animators and people who draw are reliable source instead of author?

 

[GreatIskandar14045]

Where's the rule that only author can STRICTLY make "consideration" and other staffs don't?*

 

[Bernkastelll]

Where's the rule that only author can STRICTLY make "consideration" and other staffs don't?

Where is the rule that others people can make "reliable guesses"?

 

[The_Alxhemist]

Its only Murata opinion.

You've been spamming this since yesterday bruh. I couldn't find anything supporting what you said about ONE being the one storyboarding the Redraws. The only thing I could find on it was a screenrant article of it supposedly being Murata that handles it since it doesn't deviate from the plot.

 

[LordTracer]

Let’s just get a staff member in here, it’s kinda going in circles although it seems like the majority disagrees?

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

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[Bernkastelll]

You've been spamming this since yesterday bruh. I l

Which other kind of answer is needed to this kind of question then

 

[GreatIskandar14045]

Since when Murata is just a drawer or others people especially when he is the second-only person who knows the series after the author?

 

[Bernkastelll]

Since when Murata is just a drawer or others people especially when he is the second-only person who knows the series after the author?

Because he is just a drawer and nothing more? If ya show ONE saying that Murata is a reliable source or anything like that, then sure