Who scales to Dyspo?

[Kami95]

As the title says, I wanted to ask who is considered faster than Dyspo. Since Hit started adapting to his speed, but he was still no match for Jiren, does it mean Jiren, and by extension UI Goku (who also blocked a punch from Dyspo with ease, although we don't know if it was at full speed), are faster than him? And what about GoDs, who should be comparable to those two?

 

[Blanked]

Angels. No one else. UI Goku blitzed base Dyspo, but that doesn't mean he can keep up in speed with Dyspo when he uses his acceleration.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Pretty much what Blanked said.

 

[Anonimoe7875]

Hit, Jiren, Ultra Instinct Goku, Angels and Grand Priest.

Champa wasn't able to react to Dyspo IIRC.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

...Hit, Jiren, UI Goku do not scale to Speed Boost Dyspo.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Ui Goku blitzed Dyspo, that puts him above him.

Why? Because Dyspo has the reactions to maneuver himself, throw punches and stop while accelerating. If Dyspo can do that but can't even keep up with Goku then Goku is faster.

 

[Anonimoe7875]

Didn't Hit adapted to Dyspo speed like the OP said?

 

[Blanked]

That was discussed and debunked cause Toppo reacted faster than Dyspo did and that would be impossible by your logic.

Dyspo can't manuverabilty him just attack in from of him. That why it's called linear attacks.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

They both reacted at the samne time.

 

[Blanked]

They both reacted at the samne time.

Dyspo can only use linear attacks which means he can't do any manuvers and his reaction doesn't scale.

 

[Golden_Void]

It's common sense that Goku moved faster than Dyspo could react. If we use scene precedence, Toppo reacted first and scales slightly above Dyspo. But the first statement stands :^)

 

[Blanked]

But Dyspo remains faster through acceleration.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

If Dyspo couldn't react while accelerating there's be a problem.

His punches would be just as slow, when he goes to attack someone he'd fly off the stage since since he wouldn't have the reactions to stop himself. Etc.

 

[Kami95]

Yeah, Goku blocked base Dyspo, but I also think that doesn't prove he's faster than speed boost Dyspo.

However, the Hit vs Jiren fight seem to suggest so, which is why I am asking. Hit could block Dypso's attacks after adapting, but he couldn't block Jiren's at first and he needed some time to adapt to him. Unless Hit just adapted to Dyspo's base speed, in which case you can close the topic.

 

[Blanked]

Adaption doesn't make reaching the same speed you know? He simple adapted to his linear moving and even thou Dyspo is faster he knew where he would hit cause a linear attack is easy to counter.

@man your logic doesn't stand in feet cause by that logic Toppo is just as fast as Dyspo yet he matched SSB Goku who got blitzed hard.

 

[Golden_Void]

>Base Dyspo

He only has one form.

Being able to move fast and not react at that speed is foolish and untrue.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Its called speed boost. Not reaction boost dude.

 

[Blanked]

>Base Dyspo

He only has one form.

Being able to move fast and not react at that speed is foolish and untrue.

Explain why Toppo can react at the same speed as Dyspo can when Toppo=SSB Goku who got blitzed hard.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Because Toppo trained.

 

[Blanked]

Because Toppo trained.

So did Goku.

 

[Blanked]

Also, if he can react at that speed why didnt he block Hits and Goku's attacks? Why did they overpower him by simply adapting to his linear movement?

 

[Kami95]

Maybe we should wait until the tornament ends?

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Why could Hit react to Dyspo throwing punches at his boosted speed?

 

[Blanked]

Why could Hit react to Dyspo throwing punches at his boosted speed?

He predicted them from his linear movement as explained by Goku.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Ya can't predict punches like that dude.

 

[Blanked]

Oh really, now aim-dodge is no longer a thing... Yet pretty much anyone can do it. Also, same could be said for Hit's time skip punches and still...

 

[Golden_Void]

-sigh-

 

[Blanked]

If Dyspo couldn't react while accelerating there's be a problem.

His punches would be just as slow, when he goes to attack someone he'd fly off the stage since since he wouldn't have the reactions to stop himself. Etc.

funny that practically happened as he only barely saved himself and only cause he had a decent distance to do so.

 

[Myriadofmemes]

Explain why Toppo can react at the same speed as Dyspo can when Toppo=SSB Goku who got blitzed hard.

Because he can. You don't need to add any further ambiguity by inventing """forms""" that clearly aren't actually there for Dyspo. It's called Occam's razor. To begin with reactions are relative to surrounding and not to speed. If you don't agree with the show than that's your problem entirely.

 

[Blanked]

By "forms" I intend his speed boost skill (you all know that but act like you don't for whatever reason) and I have given several examples that prove his reaction is not on the lvl of his speed.

 

[Golden_Void]

Simply restricting your speed to "higher" in bursts isn't a new form. I'd appreciate if something of substance was discussed, likely pertaining to the title of the thread, otherwise I'm closing this.

 

[AKM sama]

UI Goku: Dyspo is not dumb enough to hold back against UI Goku when he wasn't holding back against SSB Goku or Hit. There is nothing implying that Dyspo wasn't using acceleration. Going by Occam's razor, the assertion with the least amount of assumptions is that Dyspo was using acceleration.

Jiren: Scaling from UI Goku.

Angels: Self-explanatory.

Hakaishins: Can't generalise this as some hakaishins are likely stronger and faster than others.

 

[Therefir]

Its obvious than UI Goku, Jiren and the Angels are faster than boost Dyspo.

 

[Kami95]

However, Dyspo attacked at the same speed as Toppo, so either Toppo has the same speed as Dyspo or Dyspo wasn't using his full speed. Or it's just an error, which is why waiting for the end of the tornament could be a good idea.

 

[AKM sama]

Now I am really thinking that the GoDs and Zeno were not able to see Dyspo was just mere hype lol. Because they kept up with Goku vs Jiren and made no such statement.

 

[Golden_Void]

Or maybe it would be a waste of screen time to keep bringing that up