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Ok then back to the original has he ever negated non-existent abilities or nothingness?
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How is it negated when it is non-existence it is literally what I have just been arguing above.TIHYDDWBE said:void energy? thats negated.
There is a whoe blog on the League page with scans detailing the void and how it works.TIHYDDWBE said:got any scans or feats of it?
I mean he still has to deal with the absorption, reality warping, time manipulation, mind manipulation, corruption and more aspects of it. Also all this is on a 5-D level. EE is not the only thing it does as can be seen on the page. Honestly surviving the EE makes it worse for the opponent as now they have to suffer eternally. Instead of just disappearing.Accel0305 said:But how would that work when we have a character (from the composite) who can survive and return from non existence?
Tbh, I can see all those things you mentioned being countered (depending on how they work).Rocker1189 said:I mean he still has to deal with the absorption, reality warping, time manipulation, mind manipulation, corruption and more aspects of it. Also all this is on a 5-D level. EE is not the only thing it does as can be seen on the page. Honestly surviving the EE makes it worse for the opponent as now they have to suffer eternally. Instead of just disappearing.Accel0305 said:But how would that work when we have a character (from the composite) who can survive and return from non existence?
All of those are void abilities meaning they are non-existent in nature so IB without feats cant counter any of them. All of them are passive by the Baron meaning that apart from IB they are used faster than anything else which is why I am not talking about Toaru's abilities but IB.Accel0305 said:Tbh, I can see all those things you mentioned being countered (depending on how they work).
Absorption gets countered by IB or Accelerator's vector manipulation (same goes for mind manipulation, corruption, and reality warping). Time manipulation won't work because of Aleister. Also, these counters have worked on an 11-D level, so 5-D wouldn't really be a problem for them. Also you're kind of forgetting that this isn't just a one-way battle; so in that regard, how do they deal with Hax like Blasting Rod and Spiritual Tripping (on Aleister's profile), getting instantly crushed by vector manipulation or getting BFR'd to another world (which they might not want to come back from)?
And without the H1C, this thread would be "Reinhard spear gg", "mages desbelief", etc, which, i already know Toaru has no chance against them.YungManzi said:Man the High 1-C tier really limits this thread, considering very few verses have characters in that tier to begin with, and they'd have to be capable of fighting a hax composite with some of its hax being passive iirc.
That the problem with smurf based (can someone beat X) threads and its made even worse with composites.XDragnoir said:And without the H1C, this thread would be "Reinhard spear gg", "mages desbelief", etc, which, i already know Toaru has no chance against them.
Btw, Didn't higher D hax ignore things like NEP And AE?
And that form is always in the 11-Dimension as the fight starts? As it is passive as I stated.Oblivion Of The Endless said:Even with 5-D Void, they cant destroy the composite for good, so one of Aleister forms studies what is happening from his 11-Dimension and seals the cause from there with his hax that can affect non-existents
He has to send one up there firstOblivion Of The Endless said:Yes, one of Aleister forms lies on there
Rocker1189 said:Well since that is in contention I suggest Baron Nashor as one of the weakest that could win. If IB can't affect non-existence then it won't be able to affect the passive void energy released by the Baron's presence. It also has 5-D potency and resistance in its hax.
the void energy is still non-existent even if the voidborn are not. How would the destroy it,yet again IB needs feats of touching non-existents and regardless Aleister wont have the time due to being passived, not to mention his range does not seem nearly enough to destroy the void. Not that it matters since he wont be able to reach it regardless.XDragnoir said:Isn't the Voidborn only nonexistent while inside the Void? And i think either IB or Aleister would be able to destroy the void.
ok but like you said, by standing on it. He would have to be in the void itself to do that. And also how big is the hidden world?XDragnoir said:Aleister destroyed the Hidden World, a nonexistent phase, just by standing on it iirc.
Concepts dont apply to the void either as it literally unmakes living concepts. and it is far bigger than a 2-A universe. regardless he wont be able to destroy it without being in it. Either way that does not make it even close to the size of the void without an showings.XDragnoir said:The concept of distance doesn't aplly to it.
Outside does not make it bigger, tbh this argument is pointless since he wont be in the void regardless.XDragnoir said:Othinus at her full power isn't even able to know the HW (non)exists, the place is a void outside a 11D universe.
It actually does make it bigger.Rocker1189 said:Outside does not make it bigger, tbh this argument is pointless since he wont be in the void regardless.
I've been oof'd because I don't know if I read your replies or any... So let's just say anyone above 1-A wins for safe measure and for my own dignity.We aren't supposed to be talking in threads that existed before the new forum, but LMAO, you mixed the names, Toaru =/= Tarou, and i said the hax limit was H1C.