Who can win against a composite Toaru?

[Wardokman69]

This thing

 

[Nerd1435]

Well well well...

 

[Rei_Hatada]

Also no, the verse explicitly stated that Incomprehensible Dimensions exists in the outer worlds. Shiroyasha and almathea broadened this in one of the offatages:

Shiro: "Since those are completely incomprehensible dimensions where a slight mistake in the density of time would lead to incomprehensible Laws of Physic, Proper Times and Laws of Celestial Bodies. You can also define Little Garden as another Outer Universe. And just to be sure, [Natural-born Divine Spirit] doesn't mean pure-blooded Divine Spirit, if anyone is confused."

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

As far as I am aware, is still being discussed and hasn't really been enforced. If it is, it does change things a lot. But I don't see why it should, when the Magic Gods very clearly show higher dimensions are bigger than the universe in To Aru.

A dimension being infinite or of not insignificant size compared to our own is the whole point of the new tiering system, so no, being bigger is by all means something worth a feat.

Uh... dimensions being imcomprehensible doesn't make them qualitatively superior or infinitely bigger than lower dimensions, which is what you need for the new tiering system. It just means they have entirely different laws that work different than our own.

 

[Stocking.exe]

I heard a pure-blooded dragons were Acausality Type 5, So gg for Probability hax

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

• smacks lips*

Noice.

 

[Rei_Hatada]

Incomprehensible Dimensions equates to the outerwords which there countless of've. It doesn't mean that the Dimensions are incomprehensible. It just means that Outerworlds are incomprehensible Dimensions.

 

[Rei_Hatada]

Probability hax won't work on the verse as candidates of origin have ƒÆ» guaranteed of existence, there are also non-existent yet existent beings in Little garden called the noformers a community that does not have a way to retrieve their community name and Cosmology.

 

[Rei_Hatada]

pure Blooded classes can Embody their own Cosmology, their existence are sustained through their own Cosmologies

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

The number really doesn't matter, just if they are qualitatively superior or much bigger compared to lower dimensions. If not, it does nothing for their tiering, which so far seems to be Low 1-C at best. That's as high as you are gonna get just with statements of multiple timelines, no matter how infinitely big the number.

 

[Zenjutsu]

Just a thought, but...

What about a full composite Nasuverse character, including Riyo Gudako?

Speed unequal, Musashi's inifinite speed could work...I think

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

I mean, infinite speed doesn't let you do much when you are 2-A at best and the opponent is High 1-C, so that wouldn't work either.

Not even imagine breaker, pure dimensional superiority kinda leaves any potential hax useless.

 

[Zenjutsu]

I thought of that.

That's why I include Riyo Gudako, who could potentially gag-manga them into submission.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

That is the most supernatural of imperfect and abhorrent powers, so Imagine Breaker just breaks dat illusion >:U

 

[Inori_Hatsune]

Touma meet Riyodako will be like; Riyo: I will reset entire universe untill I get 5*!

Touma: You should happy with your current rooster and you must leveling your 3* or bellow servant, they are not usless.

Riyo: Silence!? You never knew how hurt dont get good 5*

Touma: I do! Because Imagine Breaker never allows me to get any 5*

Riyo: What!?

Touma: So I will destroy illusion if yours!


Jokes aside, wouldnt gudako is perfect target for world rejector?

 

[GarrixianXD]

The Flash blitzes

 

[TFSCell]

Probably Vampire Hunter D

 

[XDragnoir]

I think Flash isn't fast enough to ignore the shield, but IDK, Accelerate understands it better than me.


What VH D can do?

 

[VenusManTrap]

Yes VH D is iNsANelY hAxY

 

[Sadistic_Sleuth]

He is already here...

 

[GarrixianXD]

I think Zen'O can erase if speed ain't equalized

 

[PsychoWarper]

Im pretty sure it gets yeeted by some High 1-C ability or resistance.

 

[XDragnoir]

IB can null EE, WR can do it in the right conditions.

 

[TFSCell]

The Master with the Armageddon sapphire maybe.

 

[XDragnoir]

Zach said the sapphire isn't top tier in DW, which means IB can null it.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

The profile of the teacher stinks and the IB is just a null power that does not prevent someone with normal weapons from killing their user (even to a match where the teacher is defeating the IB with only clean strokes).

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Imagine breaker is specifically magic negation and the master has tier 1 stuff that's not magic but his profile is horribly outdated.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Its not just magic negation. It can null psychic and esper powers too

 

[Genericstickman]

NLF Crash Bandicoot die to being High 1-B

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

The profile of the teacher stinks and the IB is just a null power that does not prevent someone with normal weapons from killing their user (even to a match where the teacher is defeating the IB with only clean strokes).

It doesn't, but it does nothing about the other non-IB abilities, like Accelerator's shield.

 

[Inori_Hatsune]

@ZacharyGrossman273 IB negation not only magic, any supranatrural power & divine power will also negated.

 

[XDragnoir]

Everyone seems to have not read the OP, or don't know what a composite is, should i have explained it better?

 

[PsychoWarper]

Nah its fine people just dont seem to understand or didnt properly read the OP.

 

[YungManzi]

Putting the downgrade aside, Comp Toaru can reflect 2C ap, time stop don't work because of Aleister, IB null Death Hax, 3x amp is useless, the clones will not have any Higher D ability.

You asked me what they have aside from immeasurable speed, and I answered. That speed counters most of what you mentioned.

 

[Rocker1189]

Can IB nullify abiliities that stem from non-existence?

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Sounds rather supernatural and unnatural, so I'd say yes.

 

[Rocker1189]

That sounds like an NLF. It stop unnatural or supernatural things yes. But non-existeence is fundamentally different from anything else. I say being capable of poeernullimg or affecting things that involve it require feats for it.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

How is calling existing in non-existence, something fundamentally unnatural, something that Imagine Breaker would affect since it is made to affect unnatural things, an NLF? That's it's whole function. Is exactly why it doesn't erase supernatural things like lifeforce, because lifeforce is a natural product of the normal world without any artificial intervention or processes. But the moment it gets refined artificially into magical power by a magician, boom it gets negated.

It is not different at all in the fact that it is both unnatural and supernatural.

 

[Rocker1189]

Except it would need to be capable of interacting with non-existence in the first place is kinda my point. And I am not talking about mages. The NLF bit is IB interacting with non-existence without a showing. Also what if non-existence is natural to another verse.

 

[Accel0305]

Except it would need to be capable of interacting with non-existence in the first place is kinda my point. And I am not talking about mages. The NLF bit is IB interacting with non-existence without a showing. Also what if non-existence is natural to another verse.

IB uses Toaru's Pure World as the basis for its negation, so it doesn't really matter whether something is natural or supernatural to any other world. If it's supernatural to the Pure World, it gets negated.