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Vista(DONE)
Heat Resistance: Wasn't bothered by Akainu's heat aura. Same goes for Ace & Base Marco
Speed: "Matched Marco in speed and caught Akainu off guard"-Akainu: "Reacted to Marco's attack"
I think that bolded part should be removed from Vista's justification.(Nevermind, i changed my mind)
Shanks(DONE)
(I know he isn't part of the crew, but he still scales to WB & i didn't want to make another ctr just to add this)
AP: Higher with Hao Infusion: Equally clashed with WB. (It's unfair for everyone with Hao infusion to get a seperate higher AP rating & Shanks not)
Weakness: Link this as evidence to back up the claim.
Oden(DONE)
AP: "Stated to have the greatest sword style at that time, which would include his scabbards w/ Buso and Rayleigh"-If that's the logic to prove Oden>Prime Rayleigh than with this logic he's above Roger too. Roger is defenetly a swordsman: Infuses his sword with Buso/Hao, used it agaisnt Oden, Shiki & WB(2 of his greatest rivals). Oden says he has the greatest swordstyle(fighting style effectiveness or skill?), not that he's the strongest sword user(raw power) so he shouldn't upscale to neither Roger nor Rayleigh.
Jozu(DONE)
AP: He should get a higher rating via his DF. Everytime he attacks sb, he turns part of his body into Diamond. The vivre card points out that this influences his striking strength too: "Diamond Toughness+Extraordinary Agility=Unparalleled Power" & "His shoulder tackle in diamond form can crush everything"(Next time)
Durability: He's the ultimate shield of the WB pirates as the hardest member of crew.
Intelligence: Even as child he was outstandingly smart, agile & never got caught while stealing from others.
Ace(DONE)
Possibly Limited Durability Negation: His Fire Spears go thru BB's bodies burning him both inside & outside akin to Red Hawk or Diable Jambe. In the manga BB does bleed but after the spears were gone, there're no holes in his torso, just minor burns. If this option doesn't work for you then give BB minor Regeneration/Healing.
Supernatural Will: Resisted Shanks Haoshoku Haki too.
Possibly Minor Resistance to Cold Tempuratures: Unfazed by the tempurate of a Winter Island while still wearing shorts.
AP: Possessed one of the most destructive Devil Fruits. Burned the hand of a casual Old WB & made him guard with his DF in their last 2 duels.
WB(DONE)
AP
Prime Key: When talking to Oden, Kaido called not only Roger but also WB as mighty too.
Old Key: The Quake Fruit isn't only the Strongest Paramecia but is also stated to have absolute offensive power too.
Sick Key: Swiped away Dog-Bite Blaze with a naginata swing. Yes, he did use his bisento.
Durability
Sick Beard: The current justification for his Sick Key should be removed.
Speed
Prime Key->Old Key: The justification for his Prime makes no senses. Even Pre-Marineford WB was pretty good against sneak-attacks. Squardo said it was pratically a miracle that he managed to hit WB even once. Squardo met WB for the 1st time when he was already old, so he's making his judgement based of an Old Healthy WB not his Prime Self. Basically a feat proving Old WB was much faster than Sick WB.
Heat Resistance: No sold Ace's fire throughout most of their duels.
Marco(DONE)
Heat Resistance: Although he did get injuried forcing him to regenerate, his Undying Thistle still managed to stop Kizaru's Yasakani no Magatama going any further while the lasers could easily penetrate thru his human & phoenix forms with little to no resistance.
Fire Manipulation: His current justification mentions-"His phoenix flames have 'special properties' allowing them to repell regular flames".-The profile mentions the offensive use of this ability: "Hurting a living flame, Prometheus."-This ability was also used defensivly too: "He could block Promethues attack, King's Fire Bullets in with his wing and Kaido Bolo Breath with the Undying Thistle."
Immortality Type 2: In Phoenix & Hybrid modes he's completely nonchalant to fatal injuries while in human form he isn't. This ability should be specified for Zoan Forms only.
Body Control: Turned the wing King cut into a fireball & took control over it. Transformed his wing into a barrier. No, King's bullets didn't push him, Marco just jumped backwards & created this barrier.
Haki: He's missing Observation in his Techniques section.
Range: Several meters with shockwaves
AP
Base: His current base justification should be slightly edited as he never 1v1ed Akainu in human form, just Aokiji & Kizaru.
Zoan Forms: As WB's right hand man, he was one of his most powerful commanders with even Shanks wanting to recruit him. It should be specified that when the Gorosei were talking about the people who might stop BB, they list Marco alongside the WB pirates remants, not just Marco alone by himself.
Can bypass durability thru shockwaves: With Blue Bird & a knee combo made Flame-On King bleed.
Credits: Thanks to @Eminiteable, @KingTempest & @MonkeyOfLife especially for providing most of japanese scans!
Heat Resistance: Wasn't bothered by Akainu's heat aura. Same goes for Ace & Base Marco
I think that bolded part should be removed from Vista's justification.(Nevermind, i changed my mind)
Shanks(DONE)
AP: Higher with Hao Infusion: Equally clashed with WB. (It's unfair for everyone with Hao infusion to get a seperate higher AP rating & Shanks not)
Weakness: Link this as evidence to back up the claim.
Oden(DONE)
AP: "Stated to have the greatest sword style at that time, which would include his scabbards w/ Buso and Rayleigh"-If that's the logic to prove Oden>Prime Rayleigh than with this logic he's above Roger too. Roger is defenetly a swordsman: Infuses his sword with Buso/Hao, used it agaisnt Oden, Shiki & WB(2 of his greatest rivals). Oden says he has the greatest swordstyle(fighting style effectiveness or skill?), not that he's the strongest sword user(raw power) so he shouldn't upscale to neither Roger nor Rayleigh.
Jozu(DONE)
AP: He should get a higher rating via his DF. Everytime he attacks sb, he turns part of his body into Diamond. The vivre card points out that this influences his striking strength too: "Diamond Toughness+Extraordinary Agility=Unparalleled Power" & "His shoulder tackle in diamond form can crush everything"(Next time)
Durability: He's the ultimate shield of the WB pirates as the hardest member of crew.
Intelligence: Even as child he was outstandingly smart, agile & never got caught while stealing from others.
Ace(DONE)
Possibly Limited Durability Negation: His Fire Spears go thru BB's bodies burning him both inside & outside akin to Red Hawk or Diable Jambe. In the manga BB does bleed but after the spears were gone, there're no holes in his torso, just minor burns. If this option doesn't work for you then give BB minor Regeneration/Healing.
Supernatural Will: Resisted Shanks Haoshoku Haki too.
Possibly Minor Resistance to Cold Tempuratures: Unfazed by the tempurate of a Winter Island while still wearing shorts.
AP: Possessed one of the most destructive Devil Fruits. Burned the hand of a casual Old WB & made him guard with his DF in their last 2 duels.
WB(DONE)
AP
Prime Key: When talking to Oden, Kaido called not only Roger but also WB as mighty too.
Old Key: The Quake Fruit isn't only the Strongest Paramecia but is also stated to have absolute offensive power too.
Sick Key: Swiped away Dog-Bite Blaze with a naginata swing. Yes, he did use his bisento.
Durability
Sick Beard: The current justification for his Sick Key should be removed.
Speed
Prime Key->Old Key: The justification for his Prime makes no senses. Even Pre-Marineford WB was pretty good against sneak-attacks. Squardo said it was pratically a miracle that he managed to hit WB even once. Squardo met WB for the 1st time when he was already old, so he's making his judgement based of an Old Healthy WB not his Prime Self. Basically a feat proving Old WB was much faster than Sick WB.
Heat Resistance: No sold Ace's fire throughout most of their duels.
Marco(DONE)
Heat Resistance: Although he did get injuried forcing him to regenerate, his Undying Thistle still managed to stop Kizaru's Yasakani no Magatama going any further while the lasers could easily penetrate thru his human & phoenix forms with little to no resistance.
Fire Manipulation: His current justification mentions-"His phoenix flames have 'special properties' allowing them to repell regular flames".-The profile mentions the offensive use of this ability: "Hurting a living flame, Prometheus."-This ability was also used defensivly too: "He could block Promethues attack, King's Fire Bullets in with his wing and Kaido Bolo Breath with the Undying Thistle."
Immortality Type 2: In Phoenix & Hybrid modes he's completely nonchalant to fatal injuries while in human form he isn't. This ability should be specified for Zoan Forms only.
Body Control: Turned the wing King cut into a fireball & took control over it. Transformed his wing into a barrier. No, King's bullets didn't push him, Marco just jumped backwards & created this barrier.
Haki: He's missing Observation in his Techniques section.
Range: Several meters with shockwaves
AP
Base: His current base justification should be slightly edited as he never 1v1ed Akainu in human form, just Aokiji & Kizaru.
Zoan Forms: As WB's right hand man, he was one of his most powerful commanders with even Shanks wanting to recruit him. It should be specified that when the Gorosei were talking about the people who might stop BB, they list Marco alongside the WB pirates remants, not just Marco alone by himself.
Can bypass durability thru shockwaves: With Blue Bird & a knee combo made Flame-On King bleed.
Credits: Thanks to @Eminiteable, @KingTempest & @MonkeyOfLife especially for providing most of japanese scans!
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... They warn Jimbei a panel before yet Akainu was still suprised with exclamation/question marks when he gets hit. So what you're saying is that he has basic armament haki active all the time like BM & Kaido? Would we've to remove "Marco+Vista briefly forcing Akainu on the defensive" since Sakazuki isn't really guarding here?
mentioned earlier) & another databook scan complimenting the flame fruit destructive power.
