When you try to pummel a dorito...

[Sound_of_Infinity]

Full power Bill vs. Unrestricted Wolfgang

Speed equalized

Who will win?


Bill


The insane norse wolf,Wolfgang Schreiber

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Wolfgang eats his soul.

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

Bump

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

Bill: 0

Wolfgang: 1 (Shadow)

 

[Jinsye]

I'm just gonna put Bill against the Monarch of Pointland and he'll somehow lose instead of inconclusive.

 

[DMUA]

Can Schreiber even eat a 2-A Soul

Meanwhile Bill has many many Hax to say no u

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

>Can ignore durability via Soul Manipulation

>1-A Immortality means Bill can't kill him

>Bill has no resistance to such thing

There.

 

[DMUA]

Saying Soul Manipulation works on a 4D in Quantium uncertainty is an NLF

Wolfgang only has 1-A immortality when Reinhard is 1-A, which would mean Wolfgang in turn is amped to 1-A. IE: Not something for his planet level key. Bill has many ways to get past Low Godly.

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

Bill isn't 4-D. He's a 3-D with 4-D powers

Reinhard has 1-A Immortality in base forms (5-B and 4-A) as well. So if Bill can't kill Rein then he can't kill Wolfgang. Wolfgang's Type 8 is reliant to Reinhard, who has 1-A Immortality.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

What is this, a stomp? Can Bill atleast incap? He's being treated like Heaven Ascension DIO here.

 

[DMUA]

U wot

You mean to tell me a being of Quantium uncertainty is just another 3D

Reinhard has 1-A Immortality from Mercury. Wolfgang doesn't. If Bill just turns them to stone, there's no reason for them to get back up anyways. If Wolfgang uses Type 8 from Reinhard I'm pretty sure he wakes up in Gladishmer. IE: BFR

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

When did it say that Bill is a higher-D being?

Wolfgang's Immortality comes directly from Rein, whose Immortality comes directly from Merc. Who has 1-A type 9

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Boi you better bloodlust Bill since he's just standing there mocking Wolfgang and trying to get himself killed.

 

[DMUA]

I mean

I myself would think

That being the embodiment of terrible cat-sitters would leave the slight implication

You aren't 3D

Again he'd waking up in Gladishmer and Bill can incap

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

Again he'd waking up in Gladishmer and Bill can incap

But can he incap fast enough? Bill doesn't do much in-character.

And can you show me some scans of him being 4D?

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Boi you better bloodlust Bill since he's just standing there mocking Wolfgang and trying to get himself killed.

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

@DMUA

Should I bloodlust Bill? He doesn't do much in-character

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Yeah, you should. He would've won against most of his opponents while bloodlusted.

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

But it could be a stomp if I bloodlust Bill

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Just bloodlust him, Wolfgang can easily kill him and is always faster than Bill.

 

[ALRF]

Saying Soul Manipulation works on a 4D in Quantium uncertainty is an NLF

Wolfgang only has 1-A immortality when Reinhard is 1-A, which would mean Wolfgang in turn is amped to 1-A. IE: Not something for his planet level key. Bill has many ways to get past Low Godly.

No? Wolfgang is part of Reinhard being. Thus he won't die till Rein himself dies (all keys). And because Wolfgang is a part of Reinhard, he effectively has 1-A immortality too (Merc)

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Yeah Bill isn't physically higher-dimensional.

He used 3D as an insult because he has 4D powers.

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

Bump

 

[DMB_1]

Wolfgang is reliant on Reinhard, which I don't know what level of destruction can bring back his goons from.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

1-A cuz reinhard is also reliant on merc even in base forms. If merc doesn't die rein will live and this extends to the commanders

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

So far is 1-0 in Wolfgang's favor. Anyone wanna cast a vote?

 

[JiggyJuden2]

bill realises that he is an actual threat and then erases him from existance

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

>Wolfgang has 1-A immortality.

>Bill doesn't have EE.

No.

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

Bill can BFR him. But can he do it fast enough? I might bloodlust Bill

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

the thing is if wolfgang gets hit he will outpace bill with NF so...

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

Sooooo...are we adding another loss to Bill 'I'm a deranged dorito' Cipher's record, or does he actually have something going for him here?

Right now, I'm leaning towards Wolfgang but I don't know if it's more of a victory or a stomp.

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

Bump

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

It's perfectly in-character for bill to incap by mutating or transmutatinf enemies, not sure how effective it would be here.

Also, in bloodlust he'd go for the kill, not incap.

 

[Kaltias]

the thing is if wolfgang gets hit he will outpace bill with NF so...

What happened to "Wolfgang can't outpace immeasurable speed"?

Also @Ricsi, if he is bloodlusted he'll use the stuff that works (after he realizes what works and what doesn't).

If he sees Wolfgang regenerating, he'll start using other stuff

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Speed is equal, so any speed increase will make him faster.

 

[Kaltias]

Yeah but it's an ability that just doesn't work on people whose speed is infinite/immeasurable.

It's the same story as "speed equal doesn't make you able to time stop immeasurable characters"

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

i was more on cuz speed is equal and wolfgang's law will break the tide @kalt

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I feel that infinite speed or above for existing in the nightmare realm is weird. He did it in his 11-A form, so that should be infinite speed, and mabel was able to move there too.

 

[Kaltias]

@Red

Yes but again, if it wouldn't work with speed unequal, it wouldn't work with speed equal.

It also falls in the "massively slower character wins via being faster" category, which isn't allowed

@Ricsi

I mean, there is already a CRT, no? Bring it up there if you disagree

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I will...