What tiers do you personally oppose?

[Delta333]

Wait, why was it not? I might have missed it, could you point out where it's said on the tiering system? Technically, I can get why it's not enough, seeing as being infinitely more powerful than another 3D character isn't High 3A, so...

Why being infinitely more powerful than another 3D character isn't High 3A ? I mean it's explained that we can't quantify the numerical gap between each one of the subtiers in Tier 2 so multipliers won't work,your example is not really relevant

 

[QuasiYuri]

Wdym? Can you further elaborate?

Kinda what I said in that old "Tier 2 and Universes" staff thread.

Destroying several universes, which we treat as 3-A in a Quilted Multiverse, somehow gives you NPI and a higher rating if these are separated.

As shown with our 3-A/Low 2-C diff, you are supposed to prove a character affected all of time and stuff; not assume it because of range.

 

[Darksmash]

Getting to the point, this is where the issue is with trying to apply 3D created logic (math) to 4D logic or above.
Your physical brain is incapable of percieving the true 4th dimension in any capacity, since it needs and has a whole new sense to even percieve it let alone make any concrete assumptions that actually apply to it. Thinks for you just dont work like it does for them. Our 3D earth logic has no reason to in any way apply to dimensions entirely above our own actual understanding. Even without that... why the hell would it? Were literally dealing with dimensions that would transcend universes and multiverses that likely each run on entirely different logic and subsequently math from us.

Looks like you just don't know about maths then. Higher dimensional models have already existed in maths for a long time. You see those weird symbols on the tiering system such as R^5 and R^6? Yea they aren't made up.

Plus you totally can't just act like it is unquantifiable then pretend to use an arbitrary tiering system. If you think the dimensions are absolutely unquantifiable and outside logic then there is no use in tiering these characters as it would all be meaningless incoherency.

 

[Sus]

Our current tier 2 standards suck tho
Even 3-A feats give you 2-B

Well i agree with more than 1 2A structure should be above 2A baseline

But multipliers with universes is unquantifiable

 

[Sus]

Kinda what I said in that old "Tier 2 and Universes" staff thread.

Destroying several universes, which we treat as 3-A in a Quilted Multiverse, somehow gives you NPI and a higher rating if these are separated.

As shown with our 3-A/Low 2-C diff, you are supposed to prove a character affected all of time and stuff; not assume it because of range.

Eh effecting 2 universes is by default 2C unless the cosmology has universes in 1 timeline

 

[Nullflowerblush]

wouldn't that just be a range feat

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

wouldn't that just be a range feat

Depends on context.

So if an universe has two separate timelines within it would that be 2-C or Low 2-C?

Also if that said universe was part of an infinite multiverse that was contained into one "absolute" or "higher" flow of time would the cosmology be Low 1-C?

 

[QuasiYuri]

Eh effecting 2 universes is by default 2C unless the cosmology has universes in 1 timeline

Which is the problem. It shouldn't be 2-C but 3-A per the explanation I gave.

 

[Sus]

Which is the problem. It shouldn't be 2-C but 3-A per the explanation I gave.

Good luck in the CRT

 

[Sus]

Depends on context.

So if an universe has two separate timelines within it would that be 2-C or Low 2-C?

Also if that said universe was part of an infinite multiverse that was contained into one "absolute" or "higher" flow of time would the cosmology be Low 1-C?

2C

Nope

 

[QuasiYuri]

Good luck in the CRT

It got closed when I left and I'm too lazy to redo it rn.

Some stuff will just stay wrong for years anyway.

 

[Delta333]

It got closed when I left and I'm too lazy to redo it rn.

Some stuff will just stay wrong for years anyway.

Which verses will be affected if your CRT regarding tier 2 gets accepted ?

 

[Bernkastelll]

Which verses will be affected if your CRT regarding tier 2 gets accepted ?

Dragon Ball

edit: lol

 

[Nullflowerblush]

hahahahha

 

[QuasiYuri]

Which verses will be affected if your CRT regarding tier 2 gets accepted ?

Idk
Don't really care which verses get affected tbh, but I guess those like Pokemon would keep their ratings

 

[Tarang123]

I disagree with 2A xeno goku, that should be changed tbh

 

[Armerish]

I disagree with 2A xeno goku, that should be changed tbh

It has accepted. The problem is to edit the profiles.

 

[Tarang123]

It has accepted. The problem is to edit the profiles.

Oh, that’s fair

 

[Odinson]

I disagree with 2A xeno goku, that should be changed tbh

Y

 

[sanicspood]

Cuz there’s no 2-a statement in dbh

 

[Tarang123]

Y

Canon stuff that downgrades the verse

 

[Metalballrun]

If the downgrades happen, then you have to guess the reaction of the reddit Dragon Ball Fans that have been hounding r/WhoWouldWin about how Xeno Goku is Infinite Multiversal.

1. I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that.
2. hurr durr versus battles wiki is downplaying Dragon Ball as always
3. Why yes, Xeno Goku isn't infinite multiversal, he's infinite outerversal.

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

If the downgrades happen, then you have to guess the reaction of the reddit Dragon Ball Fans that have been hounding r/WhoWouldWin about how Xeno Goku is Infinite Multiversal.

1. I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that.
2. hurr durr versus battles wiki is downplaying Dragon Ball as always
3. Why yes, Xeno Goku isn't infinite multiversal, he's infinite outerversal.

Most of it will be 1 and 2

 

[Urshani]

If the downgrades happen, then you have to guess the reaction of the reddit Dragon Ball Fans that have been hounding r/WhoWouldWin about how Xeno Goku is Infinite Multiversal.

no one site is right above all others, just ignore them.

i would say xeno goku is 2-A, possibly Low 1-C

 

[sanicspood]

no one site is right above all others, just ignore them.

i would say xeno goku is 2-A, possibly Low 1-C

There’s no 2-a statement in dbh tho, where are u getting 2-a?

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

There’s no 2-a statement in dbh tho, where are u getting 2-a?

Because he said so

 

[Urshani]

There’s no 2-a statement in dbh tho, where are u getting 2-a?

dbx = dbh imo

 

[sanicspood]

People still think dbx = dbh? Wild

 

[Bernkastelll]

dbx = dbh imo

Xeno Goku is the one from DBH, the Xenoverse one isnt Xeno Goku, and DBX is not = DBH

 

[Urshani]

People still think dbx = dbh? Wild

sorry son i have headcanon

 

[Urshani]

Xeno Goku is the one from DBH, the Xenoverse one isnt Xeno Goku, and DBX is not = DBH

I disagree and let's leave it at that, no sense debating over fictional character statistics in a non-debate thread

 

[Nullflowerblush]

hurr durr versus battles wiki is downplaying Dragon Ball as always

wait till they get a load of this next downgrade

 

[Sus]

i would say xeno goku is 2-A, possibly Low 1-C

Yeah yeah

Based on ?

 

[Urshani]

Yeah yeah

Based on ?

Based on your mom

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Based on your mom

Sus' mother is low 1-C? I don't understand.

 

[Urshani]

Sus' mother is low 1-C? I don't understand.

Yes. Yes she is

 

[Nullflowerblush]

[insert generic "transcend space and time" statement that actually just refers to time travel]

For real, though, I don't really care what you believe Xeno Goku's tier is -- you do you. All that matters to me is that he ends up at Super tier on the Wiki.

 

[Sus]

Based on your mom

Na seriously stop claiming things u can't prove

 

[Urshani]

[insert generic "transcend space and time" statement that actually just refers to time travel]

For real, though, I don't really care what you believe Xeno Goku's tier is -- you do you. All that matters to me is that he ends up at Super tier on the Wiki.

So he can fight Super Goku?

 

[sanicspood]

He just wants to downgrade him at low as possible just for ***** and giggles