What is the Point of this Power?

[Lightbuster30]

Most powers have different effects. You have different versions of the same power. Like intangibility, conceptual manipulation and many more. This is because those powers do different things in different ways. Elemental intangibility allows you to spread out your body to avoid damage, but unlike phasing or immaterial can't pass through walls. So then what is the point of Beyond Dimenesional Existence? What seperate powers do it's seperate types have from each other? It doens't even really give you much into how far into the tier they are, it just feels like it's there.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Its just meant to be a power that all 1-As have by default

 

[Lightbuster30]

Yeah, but why bother seperating it into sub-categories?

 

[KingPin0422]

I will agree that the distinction between Type 1 and Type 2 is kind of weird, but Type 3 is something which we should certainly keep. It's for tier 0 characters, which are totally different from tier 1-A characters.

 

[Wokistan]

Well the first key on Molecule Man has neither, but yeah it's generally a 1-A thing.

However, being dimensionless is not the same as being beyond dimensional scale. That may be the purpose of type 1 but I'm not totally sure.

 

[KingPin0422]

Well the first key on Molecule Man has neither, but yeah it's generally a 1-A thing.
However, being dimensionless is not the same as being beyond dimensional scale. That may be the purpose of type 1 but I'm not totally sure.

They are exactly the same, though. Being outside of dimensionality is being superior to dimensionality.

Some people make the very wrong assumption that the state of being outside of the application of dimensionality can be superseded by some system of dimensionality because it doesn't specify being "beyond the concept of dimension".

Being conceptually different from the concept of dimension implies that you belong to a reality which does not incorporate dimensionality as a fundamental aspect. This is no different from outright transcending dimensionality in general.

The variance in laws between countries in our real world is an analogy of this. One item may be legal in one country and illegal in another. If someone owns that item in the former country, that's perfectly fine. They aren't affected by the latter country's restriction of that item, and thus they would "transcend" it.

 

[Wokistan]

Not necessarily. A thing can just not have dimensions but not transcend the concept entirely. It just wouldn't hit 1-A, just as depictions of higher dimensional stuff that runs contrary to the geometric system we use don't get High 2-A/tier 1.

 

[KingPin0422]

Not necessarily. A thing can just not have dimensions but not transcend the concept entirely. It just wouldn't hit 1-A, just as depictions of higher dimensional stuff that runs contrary to the geometric system we use don't get High 2-A/tier 1.

If I may ask, what even is the reasoning given behind each of those standards?

 

[Lightbuster30]

In that case type 2 should be for entities in the Mythos series and others. Dimensions follow a heirarchy do they not? Then a true outerversal would not only trancend all dimensional scale but everything associated with them, including the possibility of greater "beyond dimensions". As despite being beyond dimensions, Outerverses clearly have their own levels and scaling, much like dimensions, thus they are still technically bound by the concept of dimensions, even if adimensional.

Tl;dr types 2 and 3 should be reserved for truely powerful 1-A's: the top tiers of the tier.

 

[KingPin0422]

That is literally what Type 3 BDE is, though: a state of being which is beyond any sort of hierarchy. Type 2 is your regular 1-A. Type 1 probably shouldn't even exist.