what are the possible uses of transduality?

[Uniasha]

since there is too little context about it's applicablity

 

[A_Stoned_Orc]

To a character that possesses Type 4 Transduality, nothing about them is truly capable of being altered by outside influences. The very concept of outside influences is meaningless. Another character attempting to influence a character that possesses Type 4 in any fashion would more or less find their attempts meaningless, unless that character follows the same many-valued or non-classical logic.

Type 3 is much the same way. The character exists as a contradiction--I think Lorkha in his Aurbis key is a good example of this. Lorkhan was slain by the other Aedra, yet in contradiction to this fact, Lorkhan continues to influence Mundus directly and indirectly via his aspects (Lorkhaj/Shor/Shezzar) and his incarnations (Pelinal, TalOS, Wulfharth), as well as continues to exist as the Aurbis itself, the framework of "reality" that seperates Aetherius, Oblivion, Mundus, the plane(t)s, and Nirn from the Void of Sithis. Yet, at the same time, it's true that his body forms the two moons of Nirn, Masser and Secunda.

As for the first two, well, I'd hope that'd partially be self-explanatory. Let's consider someone with Type 1--they might transcend the concepts of, say, heat and cold, making them essentially immune/invulnerable to the applications of those concepts (such as Absolute Zero). Someone with Type 2, meanwhile, will also qualify for acausality type 1, and intangibility/non-corporeality due to transcending space and time.

 

[Uniasha]

well how much would he transcend space time with type 2

via controlling the formless yin and yang

 

[Uniasha]

To a character that possesses Type 4 Transduality, nothing about them is truly capable of being altered by outside influences. The very concept of outside influences is meaningless. Another character attempting to influence a character that possesses Type 4 in any fashion would more or less find their attempts meaningless, unless that character follows the same many-valued or non-classical logic.
Type 3 is much the same way. The character exists as a contradiction--I think Lorkha in his Aurbis key is a good example of this. Lorkhan was slain by the other Aedra, yet in contradiction to this fact, Lorkhan continues to influence Mundus directly and indirectly via his aspects (Lorkhaj/Shor/Shezzar) and his incarnations (Pelinal, TalOS, Wulfharth), as well as continues to exist as the Aurbis itself, the framework of "reality" that seperates Aetherius, Oblivion, Mundus, the plane(t)s, and Nirn from the Void of Sithis. Yet, at the same time, it's true that his body forms the two moons of Nirn, Masser and Secunda.

As for the first two, well, I'd hope that'd partially be self-explanatory. Let's consider someone with Type 1--they might transcend the concepts of, say, heat and cold, making them essentially immune/invulnerable to the applications of those concepts (such as Absolute Zero). Someone with Type 2, meanwhile, will also qualify for acausality type 1, and intangibility/non-corporeality due to transcending space and time.

and what haxes can bypass type 2?

 

[A_Stoned_Orc]

A higher tier of hax, more or less.

 

[Uniasha]

well how much would he transcend space time with type 2
via controlling the formless yin and yang

how about this kind of type 2?

 

[Uniasha]

A higher tier of hax, more or less.

and can conceptual haxes affect them even if they transcend all concepts but not the concept of duality itself

 

[A_Stoned_Orc]

I mean, I dunno? lol.


As for the second question, yes, provided that those conceptual haxes are proven to be of a higher dimension than the being who transcends (almost) all concepts. in Sun Wukong's case, Low 1-C+ transcendent beings would still be capable of affecting Wukong with their hax, if I understand our system correctly.

 

[Uniasha]

I mean, I dunno? lol.


As for the second question, yes, provided that those conceptual haxes are proven to be of a higher dimension than the being who transcends (almost) all concepts. in Sun Wukong's case, Low 1-C+ transcendent beings would still be capable of affecting Wukong with their hax, if I understand our system correctly.

what do you mean by transcendant beings?

 

[Planck69]

Type 2 only applies to dichtonomies at a certain level of reality. Those above said level can still affect that Type 2 transdual with their hax.

 

[Uniasha]

Type 2 only applies to dichtonomies at a certain level of reality. Those above said level can still affect that Type 2 transdual with their hax.

dichtonomies?

 

[Uniasha]

what does that mean?

 

[Planck69]

dualities.

 

[Uniasha]

dualities.

the formless yin and yang that wu kong can control represents all possible dualities or infinite dualities in reality


Yin Yang and the eight trigrams


My best understanding of how Yin and Yang represents all form and all existence is through the Bagua (image above). In the Bagua, there are eight primary aspects of Yin and Yang combinations displayed to represent the universe. The number 8 representing infinity which is unending is also displayed in the Bagua representing an infinite amount of forms. In these eight primary combinations of Yin and Yang, all dualities exist as displayed in each trigram.

When the Chinese refer to a splitting off into 'ten thousand things', I understand this phrase to imply an infinite number of variations that the eight trigrams can divide into. Thus from each of the 8 possible primary combinations of Yin Yang trigrams, there exist infinite combinations of Yin and Yang fractalized within each trigram stemming from each primary combination.

 

[A_Stoned_Orc]

Yeah, that's at most 2-A level Type 2 Transduality. Everything that is >2-A, e.g. High 2-A and Low 1-C and above, can still affect Type 2 with hax due to being a higher state of existence.

 

[Uniasha]

Yeah, that's at most 2-A level Type 2 Transduality. Everything that is >2-A, e.g. High 2-A and Low 1-C and above, can still affect Type 2 with hax due to being a higher state of existence.

in terms of hax and transcendence need to be higher than this to defeat wu kong

 

[Uniasha]

because even sometone like strange visitor superman would lose to wu kong if he doesnt even have any hax or transcendence to defeat wu kong

 

[Planck69]

Any Low 1-C would yeet with...virtually anything. Type 2 isn't useful above your dimensionality or plane of existence and in this case, it's looking more 2-A than anything.

 

[Uniasha]

and i found some more info

┬À Further, by the same token, perhaps we can consider this same concept of infinite combinations of Yin and Yang to be applied to the macrocosm as well. Here Yin and Yang could exist in infinite combinations of collective combinations; of matter, of planets, of worlds, of celestial bodies, of universes, of dimensions, etc.

 

[Uniasha]

so just pure 2A i guess

 

[Planck69]

The word "dimensions" on its own means nothing without further context that the dimensions are infinitely or qualitatively superior to each other. So that's just more Tier 2 stuff.

 

[Uniasha]

The word "dimensions" on its own means nothing without further context that the dimensions are infinitely or qualitatively superior to each other. So that's just more Tier 2 stuff.

but anyway founf all this info from a tai chi practitioner on a website so yeah there just isnt enough context to comfirm this statement

 

[Uniasha]

The word "dimensions" on its own means nothing without further context that the dimensions are infinitely or qualitatively superior to each other. So that's just more Tier 2 stuff.

but i mean seriously this is the definition of yin yang at its finest