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Very small review for the gods of destruction DBS

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Gods of destruction should receive Nonexistence EE (Nature Type 1, Aspects Type 2 {Concept} & 5 {Other:History & Space-Time} for destroying the macrocosm which contains the subspace, and according to the page the subspace is between the dimensions of the macrocosm, and they were doing it with their energies of destruction and the result would lead to the annihilation of 2 Universes

I'm very impressed that someone didn't mention it before and only put Zeno on the list


In summary:

The Gods of destruction can erase the entire macrocosm that contains the subspace that has no concept of time or space.


Agree: @KaramcaS, @K_o_Karlyn, @Apex_Predator_GX , @UnoRebaixadO , @Demon_Lord18

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i dont understand why would he gain nep for that
Simple, because the gods of destruction can destroy the macrocosm that contains the subspace that has no concept of time and space, we also see the Toppo affecting the world of the void that has no concept of time and space ( everyone does this with their energy of destruction, or rather hakai )
 
Some variation of the phrase "does not belong to any part of the world" appears in this link a total of three times—Are you sure?
I'm sure of it, every time you ask the same question about subspace, but you know that it's among the dimensions of the macrocosm, and this was accepted in the crt, is also on the cosmology page explaining, Null.
 
No?????
We don't give NEP for being able to effect things.
Notwithstanding they actually have zero feats or statements saying they can destroy the thing in question, beyond altering it slightly (Which has a slew of anti-feats mind you for even qualifying for half the things suggested).

Huge disagree, not even a disagree, this isn't even a thing, bro what are ya doing...
Shit would be like making anyone who can punch a ghost, noncorporal.
I'm sure of it, every time you ask the same question about subspace, but you know that it's among the dimensions of the macrocosm, and this was accepted in the crt, is also on the cosmology page explaining, Null.
Idk man he kind of has a point, either it is, or isn't, apart of it.
And if it's apart of it, it loses a slew of its things because of it, and if it isn't apart of it, then destroying the macrocosm wouldn't effect it. You can't exactly have both.
 
No?????
We don't give NEP for being able to effect things.
Notwithstanding they actually have zero feats or statements saying they can destroy the thing in question, beyond altering it slightly (Which has a slew of anti-feats mind you for even qualifying for half the things suggested).

Huge disagree, not even a disagree, this isn't even a thing, bro what are ya doing...
Shit would be like making anyone who can punch a ghost, noncorporal.

Idk man he kind of has a point, either it is, or isn't, apart of it.
And if it's apart of it, it loses a slew of its things because of it, and if it isn't apart of it, then destroying the macrocosm wouldn't effect it. You can't exactly have both.
Let's face it, Zeno can erase everything with his EE and the gods of destruction can destroy every macrocosm that contains subspace and can affect the world of the void all through the energy of destruction that erases things

He has no point, it is accepted that subspace is between the dimensions of the macrocosm, read the wiki explanation blog and the crt where i sent link and you will notice that his point is wrong.
 
There seems to be a misunderstanding, I think the OP wrote it wrong
What i mean is that the gods do this through their energy of destruction that can erase things and we see the energy of Beerus vs Champa expand and could destroy the Universe through the energy of destruction.

 
I think this should mainly be a revision for Zeno, as he wiped the entire timeline (including everything within, meaning the Overarching Subspace and all other Subspaces), not the GoDs. And you wouldn't get NEP, you'd get Interaction with those things.
 
I think this should mainly be a revision for Zeno, as he wiped the entire timeline (including everything within, meaning the Overarching Subspace and all other Subspaces), not the GoDs. And you wouldn't get NEP, you'd get Interaction with those things.
You've put the other things in now, but subspace exists within the macrocosm along with all the other rooms of time, if Beerus were using his energy of destruction against his brother it could erase the entire macrocosm which includes subspace, unless you mean that there is only one subspace for all 12 Universes, but all Universes are equal in dimensions and subspace, so there must be one for each Universe, erasing the Universe you would be erasing subspace.

Zeno already has this in his profile, and someone seems to have forgotten about the gods, since subspace is also part of the macrocosm, so erasing the Universe with hakai would give the same thing as Zeno
 
Let's face it, Zeno can erase everything with his EE and the gods of destruction can destroy every macrocosm that contains subspace and can affect the world of the void all through the energy of destruction that erases things
Literally doesn't matter. Your CRT doesn't work. We as a wiki don't do what you're claiming, and
right because why would we?
And no, you need proof. Ignoring how even if you were 100% right we still wouldn't give them NEP, you need to post evidence of the claim, I, nor anyone else should just "yeah trust me bro".
What i mean is that the gods do this through their energy of destruction that can erase things and we see the energy of Beerus vs Champa expand and could destroy the Universe through the energy of destruction.


Extreme extrapolation, you need to prove that extends to half the things you're claiming, as opposed to just what's actually said.
Zeno has already erased the entire multiverse, and the gods of destruction should also use their energy of destruction to destroy the universe that contains the subspace between dimensions.


Why do you keep saying "should", "could", etc? Either it is or isn't.

He has no point, it is accepted that subspace is between the dimensions of the macrocosm, read the wiki explanation blog and the crt where i sent link and you will notice that his point is wrong.
I did, and I'm seeing multiple contradictory points and cherry picking of evidence.
Like, literally what he said. You can't have both. It being apart of the macrocosm, while also being not part of it, don't work dude it's one or the other, and if it's apart of it, half the shit it has gets brought into question.
You've put the other things in now, but subspace exists within the macrocosm along with all the other rooms of time, if Beerus were using his energy of destruction against his brother it could erase the entire macrocosm which includes subspace, unless you mean that there is only one subspace for all 12 Universes, but all Universes are equal in dimensions and subspace, so there must be one for each Universe, erasing the Universe you would be erasing subspace.
Stop saying could. We need proof. Conjecture is not proof.
And stop saying things they never actually claimed, like you legit posted the scene anyhow, they don't even say what you're claiming, you're making multiple extra assumptions.
And lad, you're now taking one of the few gimmicks this thing has, and ignoring it to apply it to every universe when that's never said.
 
Literally doesn't matter. Your CRT doesn't work. We as a wiki don't do what you're claiming, and
right because why would we?
And no, you need proof. Ignoring how even if you were 100% right we still wouldn't give them NEP, you need to post evidence of the claim, I, nor anyone else should just "yeah trust me bro".
Dude, it's in Zeno's own profile that he did this when he deleted the multiverse, you just have to look at things...

Nonexistence (Nature Type 1, Aspects Type 2 {Concept} & 5 {Other:History & Space-Time
Extreme extrapolation, you need to prove that extends to half the things you're claiming, as opposed to just what's actually said.

Why do you keep saying "should", "could", etc? Either it is or isn't.
It is literally said in the anime itself that it would be the annihilation of the two universes if the two continued to fight



Dude, i don't speak English and that's why it's the way it is, i use a translator to get things done.
I did, and I'm seeing multiple contradictory points and cherry picking of evidence.
Like, literally what he said. You can't have both. It being apart of the macrocosm, while also being not part of it, don't work dude it's one or the other, and if it's apart of it, half the shit it has gets brought into question.

Stop saying could. We need proof. Conjecture is not proof.
And stop saying things they never actually claimed, like you legit posted the scene anyhow, they don't even say what you're claiming, you're making multiple extra assumptions.
And lad, you're now taking one of the few gimmicks this thing has, and ignoring it to apply it to every universe when that's never said.
My God, there's literally a crt for it to be part of the macrocosm that is Universe 7, and it's said on the DB page itself that it's among the dimensions of the macrocosm, just please open the link and read it, i don't know if you're ignoring me or not, but subspace is accepted as part of the macrocosm and it's among the dimensions of Universe 7.

And Beerus is quoted by several sources as being able to destroy the entire Universe 7



And we see during the fight against his brother that he uses energy of destruction, for those of you who don't know what it is, the energy of destruction is the very hakai of a God of destruction, it is said that it would be annihilation of the 2 Universes, so there would be nothing left and not even the subspace that exists between the dimensions of the macrocosm.
 
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I'm sure of it, every time you ask the same question about subspace, but you know that it's among the dimensions of the macrocosm
I genuinely cannot wrap my head around how a closed-off, far removed realm existing between dimensions which explicitly does not exist within the concept of space or time, which is explicitly described as "being sealed off from the world", which explicitly is not "counted as part of this universe", and is explicitly stated to "not belong to any part of the world" can be accepted as part of the world. Hell, nobody can sense Ki located within the Room of Spirit and Time from outside and vice-versa, even though characters like Goku are capable of sensing Ki located in Other World from the Living World, or in the Sacred World of the Kai from the Other World, despite said realms being hermetically separated space-time continua. But sure, I concede.
 
Dude, it's in Zeno's own profile that he did this when he deleted the multiverse, you just have to look at things...

Nonexistence (Nature Type 1, Aspects Type 2 {Concept} & 5 {Other:History & Space-Time
Is Zeno Beerus? No, he isn't.
It is literally said in the anime itself that it would be the annihilation of the two universes if the two continued to fight


Yeah so? You aren't proving what needs to be proven here with that, prove it covers what you're suggesting.
Dude, i don't speak English and that's why it's the way it is, i use a translator to get things done.
Then get people to fact check your stuff for you, as it stands, whether you intend it or not, I can only reply to what is written, and what you've written I vehemently disagree with. I can't read your mind dude,
My God, there's literally a crt for it to be part of the macrocosm that is Universe 7, and it's said on the DB page itself that it's among the dimensions of the macrocosm, just please open the link and read it, I don't know if you're ignoring me or not, but subspace is accepted as part of the macrocosm and it's among the dimensions of Universe 7.
Maybe I wasn't clear, I'm actively contesting that stance and might go make a CRT for it when I have time. Actually a portion of that is straight up wrong, the subspace doesn't have space?

This, ultimately doesn't matter though because you need to actually prove the scope of what's happening.

And secondly, man, both the CRT you linked AND the cosmology blog, says the subspace exists between the universes, not as part of them, it's legit one of the very first things in said blog. You basically self-sabotaged your whole CRT, what we have accepted is the exact opposite of what you're claiming we have accepted. They're only accepted to be part of the larger multiverse, which Zeno busted.
 
I genuinely cannot wrap my head around how a closed-off, far removed realm existing between dimensions which explicitly does not exist within the concept of space or time, which is explicitly described as "being sealed off from the world", which explicitly is not "counted as part of this universe", and is explicitly stated to "not belong to any part of the world" can be accepted as part of the world. Hell, nobody can sense Ki located within the Room of Spirit and Time from outside and vice-versa, even though characters like Goku are capable of sensing Ki located in Other World from the Living World, or in the Sacred World of the Kai from the Other World, despite said realms being hermetically separated space-time continua. But sure, I concede.
It's accepted that it's part of the universe, so you'd have to make a crt to undo it anyway.
 
I couldn't read it properly as I was sleepy and thought it was a NEP Erasure CRT (I'm very sleep deprived after working for 12 hours straight, sorry)

Absolutely no one like Beerus or anyone else has NEP. There's no evidence of this. Yes, they can interact with and erase things that have NEP, but Beerus or Zeno themselves don't have NEP

I think the OP also thinks he opened a NEP Erasure CRT, but you both misunderstand each other
 
Is Zeno Beerus? No, he isn't.
What is it? Why are you so mad at me, man?

I know, but this is a crt about the gods of destruction being able to erase subspace and affect the world of the void that contains no concept of space and time

Yeah so? You aren't proving what needs to be proven here with that, prove it covers what you're suggesting.

Then get people to fact check your stuff for you, as it stands, whether you intend it or not, I can only reply to what is written, and what you've written I vehemently disagree with. I can't read your mind dude,
I've already proved it, the gods of destruction are capable of wiping out the entire Universe with their energy of destruction and subspace is accepted as part of the macrocosm, so it would be affected too with Beerus and his brother fighting

I'm fine with agreeing to disagree
Maybe I wasn't clear, I'm actively contesting that stance and might go make a CRT for it when I have time. Actually a portion of that is straight up wrong, the subspace doesn't have space?
Fine, you can do your thing, the subspace is said to have no absence of concepts like space or time, so it doesn't have a space
This, ultimately doesn't matter though because you need to actually prove the scope of what's happening.
But I've already proved it, the fight between the two gods of destruction would erase the Universes and we see their energies of destruction filling all the space in that room, and the subspace is between the dimensions of the Universe.
And secondly, man, both the CRT you linked AND the cosmology blog, says the subspace exists between the universes, not as part of them, it's legit one of the very first things in said blog. You basically self-sabotaged your whole CRT, what we have accepted is the exact opposite of what you're claiming we have accepted. They're only accepted to be part of the larger multiverse, which Zeno busted.
Bro, it's said on the page itself that it's among the dimensions of the macrocosm and said in the crt that it is between the dimensions of the macrocosm, I'm not sabotaging anything, I think you're confused...

"Since this void is present between dimensions of macrocosm having time, it shows that they have their own parallel time axes thus they are separate Space-Times"
 
I couldn't read it properly as I was sleepy and thought it was a NEP Erasure CRT (I'm very sleep deprived after working for 12 hours straight, sorry)

Absolutely no one like Beerus or anyone else has NEP. There's no evidence of this. Yes, they can interact with and erase things that have NEP, but Beerus or Zeno themselves don't have NEP

I think the OP also thinks he opened a NEP Erasure CRT, but you both misunderstand each other
What I mean, Beerus has it through the hakai that he can erase the entire macrocosm that contains subspace, Zeno has it in his own profile, so it was escalating to Beerus who can affect these certain places with his energy of destruction that is capable of affecting the world of the void that a place without the absence of concept of time or space, this guy there with Jojo's profile is in confusion on the subject, how much did he read Null's message, but it is accepted that subspace is within the macrocosm that Universe 7 is.
 
Isn't it saying here that subspace is within the macrocosm?
As far as i could understand, it is, and the other crt also said that it was between the dimensions of the macrocosm

 
What is it? Why are you so mad at me, man?
How is disagreeing with your CRT being mad? Don't accuse people over trivial nonsense.
I know, but this is a crt about the gods of destruction being able to erase subspace and affect the world of the void that contains no concept of space and time
The world of the void very much does have space and time, based on the fact there's both space and time.
Idk what you want me to say to that, the only excuse one might have is GP gave it some, but if that's the case Toppo making slight changes to it doesn't mean a thing.

And if you know, don't derail your own CRT.
I've already proved it, the gods of destruction are capable of wiping out the entire Universe with their energy of destruction and subspace is accepted as part of the macrocosm, so it would be affected too with Beerus and his brother fighting
No it isn't. What both the blog and CRT said is not what you think it says. Hell the CRT itself even tries to rectify the very explicit fact that some of these don't actually exist in the same universe per Frieza.
I'm fine with agreeing to disagree
Not how this works, you need to actually prove your CRT.
Fine, you can do your thing, the subspace is said to have no absence of concepts like space or time, so it doesn't have a space
Actual showings > statements.
Statements > statements that contradict both said statements and showings.

We call that cherry picking lad.
But I've already proved it, the fight between the two gods of destruction would erase the Universes and we see their energies of destruction filling all the space in that room, and the subspace is between the dimensions of the Universe.
You simply saying it is, is not proof, I don't want your word I want actual evidence.
Prove that these things even exist in the frame he's going to destroy over time, that's what you need to prove, and you haven't.
Bro, it's said on the page itself that it's among the dimensions of the macrocosm and said in the crt that it is between the dimensions of the macrocosm,
That is literally not what it says, I don't wanna be mean here, but if you can't actually understand english that well, you need to run this shit by others first.
I'm not sabotaging anything, I think you're confused...
Both the CRT and the blog actively says the thing you're tying to say they would destroy, based on destroying the universe is, in fac, not actually apart of the universe.
Isn't it saying here that subspace is within the macrocosm?
On blog, explicitly noted to not be apart of any world.
Between, not in, not apart, it's between them and doesn't actually belong to them.
since this void is present between dimensions of macrocosm having time, it shows that they have their own parallel time axes thus they are separate Space-Times
Literally used as evidence to show the dimensions have their own space-time.
And furthermore
In essence, this details the fact that there’s a void without the concepts of time and space existing detached, but between from every dimension. Also, that despite this there exists dimensional boundaries that indicate the separation of space and time from these other dimensions.

Between and detached.
The thing is literally not part of the universe, it's detached, outside of it, and is even part of why they're accepted to have seperate space-times. If we want to say it's actually part of it, half the blog is going to be reworked because half the separate space-time arguments would need to be tossed.
 
I was asked to evaluate this thread and I don't understand, is the OP trying to give GoDs Nonexistent Erasure or NEP? If it is the former, i could see the reason, but if it is the latter, i disagree, we don't give NEP like this, NEP is a Physiology ability
 
I was asked to evaluate this thread and I don't understand, is the OP trying to give GoDs Nonexistent Erasure or NEP? If it is the former, i could see the reason, but if it is the latter, i disagree, we don't give NEP like this, NEP is a Physiology ability
The first option
 
The first option
Gods of destruction should receive Nonexistence (Nature Type 1, Aspects Type 2 {Concept} & 5 {Other:History & Space-Time}
Yeah no, you should edit your OP cause it look like you are trying to give them Nonexistent Physiology instead of Nonexistent Erasure

About NEP Erasure, i'm not sure if Subspace in within the Macrocosm or not, it is sure within the timeline, since when Granolah and Gas made those wish to be strongest in the universe, it excluded Frieza who was in a thing like HTC, and it isn't belong to any World too so for now i disagree
 
Yeah no, you should edit your OP cause it look like you are trying to give them Nonexistent Physiology instead of Nonexistent Erasure
Right from the start i mentioned that they could erase the entire macrocosm that has the subspace inside it ( you can see my comments )
About NEP Erasure, i'm not sure if Subspace in within the Macrocosm or not, it is sure within the timeline, since when Granolah and Gas made those wish to be strongest in the universe, it excluded Frieza who was in a thing like HTC, and it isn't belong to any World too so for now i disagree
As far as I know and it has been accepted, that subspace is within the macrocosm, the explanation page itself says this, and the crt itself where it said that it is within the macrocosm, it was accepted that it is not in the "mortal universe" in the crt, so much so that you can see the crt talking about it when it was accepted

 
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Right from the start i mentioned that they could erase the entire macrocosm that has the subspace inside it ( you can see my comments )
But the way you present your OP look like you are trying to give GoDs NEP instead, which you should fix to avoid confusion

Literally your OP
Gods of destruction should receive Nonexistence (Nature Type 1, Aspects Type 2 {Concept} & 5 {Other:History & Space-Time}

As far as I know and it has been accepted, that subspace is within the macrocosm, the explanation page itself says this, and the crt itself where it said that it is within the macrocosm, it was accepted that it is not in the "mortal universe" in the crt, so much so that you can see the crt talking about it when it was accepted
Oke then, but i still want to see others' opinion first
 
The CRT and the cosmology blog LITERALLY says it's detached from the macrocosm.
Why does bro keep saying it's apart of it and it's accepted, it quite literally ong isn't, the exact opposite is accepted even.

Like wtf is happening am I being punked
 
The CRT and the cosmology blog LITERALLY says it's detached from the macrocosm.
Why does bro keep saying it's apart of it and it's accepted, it quite literally ong isn't, the exact opposite is accepted even.

Like wtf is happening am I being punked
It's simply saying that subspace is between the dimensions of the macrocosm, just read on and you'll understand.

There exist a <Subspace> that doesn't belong to any World and is located between all dimensions, such as the ones between the Macrocosm, since this void is present between dimensions of macrocosm having time, it shows that they have their own parallel time axes thus they are separate Space-Times.

And in the crt it was accepted that the subspace is between the dimensions of the macrocosm, this was accepted in the crt and the blog also says this

 
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