Very Minor Sonic 06 Downgrade (Should I call it in the shadows?)

[Starsprite53]

Something about Solaris’s profile has always bugged me, especially this part:
"Immortality (Type 2, Resilient Immortality; Survived attacks that caused damage on the level of decapitation without issue[2])"
And because of that, the Super forms have this:
"Regeneration Negation (Up to Low-Godly; The full power of the Chaos Emeralds allowed Sonic to bypass Solaris' regeneration, decapitating it. Even when Solaris revitalized and reformed itself with wings, the damage to it remained[27])"
But honestly, this doesn't seem to be the case at all, lemme explain:
This isn’t his head (it doesn’t even seem like he has one lol). In the boss fight, he’s stated to have a body of light, which you can clearly see since he keeps glowing constantly. Meanwhile, the armor/anchor doesn’t glow the same way, why I say this is because the supposed head looks the same as the armor covering his body, they even have the same texture as well
and It gets worse: when the "head" gets destroyed, it reveals this molten lava-like texture, again, just like the rest of his armor when you break it. It’s clearly part of his armor, as his real eyes are those glowing purple orbs floating around completely detached from his body and visible across space-time (It's also suspicious how the "head" is only thing that was removed)
So yeah, claiming that he was "decapitated" is a stretch. There’s no actual head involved, meaning that this really needs to be corrected in the profiles.

Agree:
Disagree:
Neutral:

 

[Theuser789]

All this does is remove his type 2 immortality at best. He still didn't regenerate his armor so the regen negation would stay. Neutral on the rest.

 

[Omegabronic]

Something about Solaris’s profile has always bugged me, especially this part:
"Immortality (Type 2, Resilient Immortality; Survived attacks that caused damage on the level of decapitation without issue[2])"
And because of that, the Super forms have this:
"Regeneration Negation (Up to Low-Godly; The full power of the Chaos Emeralds allowed Sonic to bypass Solaris' regeneration, decapitating it. Even when Solaris revitalized and reformed itself with wings, the damage to it remained[27])"
But honestly, this doesn't seem to be the case at all, lemme explain:
This isn’t his head (it doesn’t even seem like he has one lol).

it is tho? it has eyes, ears, etc. I don't see why it wouldn't be one

In the boss fight, he’s stated to have a body of light, which you can clearly see since he keeps glowing constantly. Meanwhile, the armor/anchor doesn’t glow the same way,

yeah......and his eyes in his head, which is inside said armor, glow constantly as well

why I say this is because the supposed head looks the same as the armor covering his body, they even have the same texture as well

no, the head in INSIDE the armor, hence why there is glow coming out of the eye holes of it

and It gets worse: when the "head" gets destroyed, it reveals this molten lava-like texture, again, just like the rest of his armor when you break it.

yeah, when the armor that is covering the head gets destroyed.....it looks like the rest of the armor, the head itself was destroyed as well tho, as you can clearly see the neck underneath without the head in this same clip

It’s clearly part of his armor, as his real eyes are those glowing purple orbs floating around completely detached from his body and visible across space-time

those are not his "eyes" those are spatial-temporal distortions he is using to summon things to attacks, saying those are his literal eyes is purely headcanon, nothing ever says that, like, at all

these are just rifts, nothing more

(It's also suspicious how the "head" is only thing that was removed)

what is suspicious about that? Sonic attacked the core immediately after, why would anything else be destroyed?

So yeah, claiming that he was "decapitated" is a stretch.

There’s no actual head involved, meaning that this really needs to be corrected in the profiles

it isn't a "stretch" it literally what happened, and you are just no aware of how a helmet works, no one ever claimed the armor was the head, but that like any helmet, the head is inside, hence why we can see it glowing from the eye holes

and the only evidence that these are not his eyes are assumption/headcanons that the space time rifts are somehow what he uses to actually see stuff.......which is never said at all not implied, thus not serving as proof of anything

disagree

 

[Starsprite53]

yeah......and his eyes in his head, which is inside said armor, glow constantly as well

There is no eyes or head show inside the armor, it's just the way the armor looks

yeah, when the armor that is covering the head gets destroyed.....it looks like the rest of the armor, the head itself was destroyed as well tho, as you can clearly see the neck underneath without the head in this same clip

I don't understand where did you get the head or neck from, it's not even shown inside the armor, it's literally empty,

those are not his "eyes" those are spatial-temporal distortions he is using to summon things to attacks, saying those are his literal eyes is purely headcanon, nothing ever says that, like, at all

these are just rifts, nothing more

They are literally called the Eyes of Solaris
They are even called so in his damn profile under the notable attacks
How the heck do you think phase 2 works in the first place?

it isn't a "stretch" it literally what happened, and you are just no aware of how a helmet works, no one ever claimed the armor was the head, but that like any helmet, the head is inside, hence why we can see it glowing from the eye holes

The glowing literally comes from the lava part inside it, like the arms and such, since it has the same color, it doesn't make sense that the super trio used the same attacks that removed his head but suddendly didn't do the same to his arms

 

[Theuser789]

The "Eyes" of Solaris aren't literal eyes, Omega is right they are just Spatial-Distortion portals. We see them in End of the World.

 

[Starsprite53]

The "Eyes" of Solaris aren't literal eyes, Omega is right they are just Spatial-Distortion portals. We see them in End of the World.

Called Eyes
Look and behave like actual eyes
Literally the only explanation why Solaris can sense the trio through them in phase 2
Those aren't literal eyes

Nice logic

 

[Omegabronic]

There is no eyes or head show inside the armor, it's just the way the armor looks

no, the armor looks like crystal stuff and all that, so no, specially when the "body of light" is clearly inside, hence why the inside the helmet shows LIGHT coming out of the eye holes of said helmet

I don't understand where did you get the head or neck from, it's not even shown inside the armor, it's literally empty,

the visible tump we see above the core? that very visible neck like structure in the middle of it?

They are literally called the Eyes of Solaris

name fallacy much? as i showed, these are nothing more than space time rifts he created, it is NEVER said they work as eyes for it

They are even called so in his damn profile under the notable attacks

Same as above......don't tell me you based this entire thing on taking names of his attacks as 100% literal

The glowing literally comes from the lava part inside it

what lava? literally nothing like lava comes out when those are destroyed

it doesn't make sense that the super trio used the same attacks that removed his head but suddendly didn't do the same to his arms

it does, Sonic's Arrow of light is >>> Silver and Shadow's attacks in game, hence why we rate it as "higher" on the profile, it was simply a stronger attack


plus, no matter what, it is a huge of his body being destroyed, so Solaris would keep type 2 no matter what, and he couldn't heal those parts anyway, nor could he heal the damage later on in phase 2, so the regen neg stays as well

 

[Omegabronic]

Nice logic

Called Eyes

Vegeta's Big Bang attack and Sonic's "Arrow of Light" say hi, the name means little to nothing here

Look and behave like actual eyes

no they don't? don't lie now, they don't LOOK like eyes at all, and they don't BEHAVE as eyes at all, no idea where you got this from

Eyes don't suck space time and instantly kill whoever touches them

Literally the only explanation why Solaris can sense the trio through them in phase 2

also a lie, Extrasensory perception or enhanced senses allows one to have such capabilities, and again, the lack of ANYTHING OF RELEVANCE calling or describing them as working as literal eyes don't help, specially when this point is IRRELEVANT to them, as it can be true without them and is NEVER said to be true due to them

again, can you please show any proof that isn't headcanon or a theory? can you shown any proof of the space-time rifts somehow being his eye balls?

 

[Theuser789]

Nice logic

Yes. They aren't in Solaris actual body and he can spam them by the dozen. They aren't literal eyes and being sarcastic doesn't change that.

 

[Starsprite53]

no, the armor looks like crystal stuff and all that, so no, specially when the "body of light" is clearly inside, hence why the inside the helmet shows LIGHT coming out of the eye holes of said helmet

The only thing that was inside the helmet was the neck (is it even a neck?), it takes most of it, like you can literally see this here, no head was shown during the boss presentation, mid fight or even when you destroy the armor,
The glowing light comes from the yellow thing inside of it, like the armor that covers his ARMS

name fallacy much? as i showed, these are nothing more than space time rifts he created, it is NEVER said they work as eyes for it

Saying X fallacy doesn't work when you don't give a good explanation why it falls under it in the first place
Also:"Last Episode • End of the World". Sonic the Hedgehog: Official Game Guide. Prima Games. p. 310. ISBN 978-0761555100. "As you run across the wrecked avenue, the eyes of Solaris burst forth from the rip in the continuum. You cannot touch the eyes, lest you lose a life."

Same as above......don't tell me you based this entire thing on taking names of his attacks as 100% literal

I never did, nice try
It wasn't even considered an attack, maybe the way it's been put like that in the profile gaslighted you into thinking it's the case

what lava? literally nothing like lava comes out when those are destroyed

Holy shit I'm not going to repeat myself, here

when the "head" gets destroyed, it reveals this molten lava-like texture, again, just like the rest of his armor when you break it.

it does, Sonic's Arrow of light is >>> Silver and Shadow's attacks in game, hence why we rate it as "higher" on the profile, it was simply a stronger attack

That would be nice if Sonic was even able to hurt his body in both phases, phase 1 there is no head present and phase 2 he can't do anything but just aim for his conciousness, did you ignore that it was stated that standard attacks won't work on him?

Vegeta's Big Bang attack and Sonic's "Arrow of Light" say hi, the name means little to nothing here

False analogy, in this case they are actual eyes

no they don't? don't lie now, they don't LOOK like eyes at all, and they don't BEHAVE as eyes at all, no idea where you got this from

Eyes don't suck space time and instantly kill whoever touches them

They LOOK like eyes, they're shown to have pupils, and said pupils follow the characters where they move

"Eyes don't suck space time and instantly kill whoever touches them"
You mean the eyes that are a part of a SUPER DIMENSIONAL BEING, who is temporally OMNIPRESENT and god of time? I also don't remember someone who can live without his head, yet here we are, nice argument considering you're in a powerscaling website

also a lie, Extrasensory perception or enhanced senses allows one to have such capabilities, and again, the lack of ANYTHING OF RELEVANCE calling or describing them as working as literal eyes don't help, specially when this point is IRRELEVANT to them, as it can be true without them and is NEVER said to be true due to them

again, can you please show any proof that isn't headcanon or a theory? can you shown any proof of the space-time rifts somehow being his eye balls?

Such abilities are also NEVER stated or implied (two can play this game), for the eyes, at least they show visual evidence, unlike whatever you're trying to argue

 

[Omegabronic]

plus, no matter what, it is a huge of his body being destroyed, so Solaris would keep type 2 no matter what, and he couldn't heal those parts anyway, nor could he heal the damage later on in phase 2, so the regen neg stays as well