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[CastoriceTheFifth]

I don't understand why this is in profiles when it should be fun and games

Non combat matches were allowed as long as it had something to do with the character like this

Lightning McQueen Vs Turbo (Cars Vs Turbo) [8-1-1]

Lightning Mcqueen Vs Turbo 300 Lap Race First to finish wins Gonna be real. This was a random debate that started in a Discord server that went from who would win in a race to McQueen being bloodlusted and running over Turbo mid race. Lightning Mcqueen: @Arkansalter2 @AThe1412 @Bruhtelho...

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[NikHelton]

Non combat matches were allowed as long as it had something to do with the character like this

Lightning McQueen Vs Turbo (Cars Vs Turbo) [8-1-1]

Lightning Mcqueen Vs Turbo 300 Lap Race First to finish wins Gonna be real. This was a random debate that started in a Discord server that went from who would win in a race to McQueen being bloodlusted and running over Turbo mid race. Lightning Mcqueen: @Arkansalter2 @AThe1412 @Bruhtelho...

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Yes, it looks good for racing and battles of wits. But not for cooking.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Imagine the faces of the Dekufans when Final Arc Deku loses to Raigen in rock paper scissors, loses to Kaneki in poetry reading, and loses to Ohma in meat eating

Rock Paper Scissors is literally a valid non combat match declared in the staff thread

Rigby and Mordecai vs Satou Kazuma

I'm pretty sure in an actual fight, Rigby and Mordecai would stomp, but this is doable still. I pitted Yor Forger against Plankton in a cooking contest and pitted the games of The Frontman and Jigsaw against each other, so..! For this match, let's pit the contestants' luck against each other...

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Regular show had a dedicated Rock Paper Scissors Episode where the 2 idiots stalemated 100 times and Kazuma is known for always winning rock paper scissors

Yes, it looks good for racing and battles of wits. But not for cooking.

Cooking competitions are also declared valid in the staff thread

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Yeah but Reinhard, except for having dps of cooking, has no notable relation to cooking at all. That matchup isnt valid

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Heres the rule page for non combat matches btw

Versus Thread Rules

The VS Battles Wiki is mainly a site that attempts to index the statistics of characters across many different fictional franchises. However, as the site name implies, we also allow our members to pit fictional characters against each other in hypothetical matchups for entertainment purposes...

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[The_Impress]

The FUN Gang vs Hate (Deltarune vs I have No Mouth and I Must Scream) (1-7-1)

This seemed like a funny match to make. Rules: Match takes place on a Dark World version of AM's earth Speed is Equalized Delta Warriors are 7-B AM has prior knowledge on The Player Start 10 meters away HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE...

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Basically no one who has read the short story likely voted for this. The crux of the argument as to why Delta Warriors won is:

• Firstly literally a core argument as to why AM can get SI'd is "he has no emotions poor guy". He actually has a lot of emotions, in fact he has an iconic rant that illustrates how much he is BUSTLING with ONE SPECIFIC EMOTION he feels towards the protagonists. But even beyond that AM is not one-note. AM gets angry, AM is a sadistic douchebag, AM is a bigot, AM is considerate just enough to further his sadism, AM is funny, AM thinks, therefore it is. So it just feeling what it already feels is not enough. The HATE persists. That's just the guy within talking.
• Delta Warriors or Player Character just ain't those guys. Gorrister in the story is a literal contentious objector, Ted is a philanthropist, Nimdok and Benny both are men of science, even Ellen is extremely compassionate. NONE OF THEM can do jack against AM. This is also for a reason I'll get into later, but just know that it is utter nonsense to act like 3 teens yapping against "aw jeez im misunderstood" monsters is equivalent
• AM gives ZERO ***** about "but you wouldn't kill a nice guy/a child/literal saint/newborn/anyone". He kills EVERYONE on the planet, and his ONLY regrets are he didn't save more of them to torture. He gets mad at Ted for KILLING them because that means it's LESS people to torture.
• Now of course the argument given in the thread is "Oh but you talk-no-jutsu'd Flowey" yeah after you kick their ass into submission. Assuming we assume instant-kill **** you doesn't happen (which by the way, ALREADY a stretch, this is literally inventing a canon connection for AM to give a shit) AM literally fundamentally changes your personality. It makes SI IMPOSSIBLE. This is something that doesn't happen with Flowey, because Flowey couldn't mindhax the Player Character.
• This is something I am not sure on because I had to ask some supporters, but SOUL transfer is borderline combat inapplicable and there is no proof if it would even work on AM considering the Inorganic Physiology.

And for the record I don't even care if AM loses this match because of speedblitz or some other shit Deltarune guys pull out their ass, I don't care about that. But this is worse than Superman vs. Scarlet King level of hopiumcore BS lol.

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[Anonymous_Learner]

The FUN Gang vs Hate (Deltarune vs I have No Mouth and I Must Scream) (1-7-1)

This seemed like a funny match to make. Rules: Match takes place on a Dark World version of AM's earth Speed is Equalized Delta Warriors are 7-B AM has prior knowledge on The Player Start 10 meters away HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE...

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Basically no one who has read the short story likely voted for this. The crux of the argument as to why Delta Warriors won is:

• Firstly literally a core argument as to why AM can get SI'd is "he has no emotions poor guy". He actually has a lot of emotions, in fact he has an iconic rant that illustrates how much he is BUSTLING with ONE SPECIFIC EMOTION he feels towards the protagonists. But even beyond that AM is not one-note. AM gets angry, AM is a sadistic douchebag, AM is a bigot, AM is considerate just enough to further his sadism, AM is funny, AM thinks, therefore it is. So it just feeling what it already feels is not enough. The HATE persists. That's just the guy within talking.
• Delta Warriors or Player Character just ain't those guys. Gorrister in the story is a literal contentious objector, Ted is a philanthropist, Nimdok and Benny both are men of science, even Ellen is extremely compassionate. NONE OF THEM can do jack against AM. This is also for a reason I'll get into later, but just know that it is utter nonsense to act like 3 teens yapping against "aw jeez im misunderstood" monsters is equivalent
• AM gives ZERO ***** about "but you wouldn't kill a nice guy/a child/literal saint/newborn/anyone". He kills EVERYONE on the planet, and his ONLY regrets are he didn't save more of them to torture. He gets mad at Ted for KILLING them because that means it's LESS people to torture.
• Now of course the argument given in the thread is "Oh but you talk-no-jutsu'd Flowey" yeah after you kick their ass into submission. Assuming we assume instant-kill **** you doesn't happen (which by the way, ALREADY a stretch, this is literally inventing a canon connection for AM to give a shit) AM literally fundamentally changes your personality. It makes SI IMPOSSIBLE. This is something that doesn't happen with Flowey, because Flowey couldn't mindhax the Player Character.
• This is something I am not sure on because I had to ask some supporters, but SOUL transfer is borderline combat inapplicable and there is no proof if it would even work on AM considering the Inorganic Physiology.

And for the record I don't even care if AM loses this match because of speedblitz or some other shit Deltarune guys pull out their ass, I don't care about that. But this is worse than Superman vs. Scarlet King level of hopiumcore BS lol.

this got approved for removal by one of the main participaters, just remove it and put these reasonings

 

[Arkansalter2]

All matches listed on this page.

Player (Slap Battles)

The Player is an unofficial name for the controllable character in the Roblox Game Slap Battles. Not much is known about them outside of the fact that they can utilise a multitude of supernatural gloves that they use to fight other players. Tier: Unknown physically, up to at least 7-C with...

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Nobody in the matches can kill Slap now that he has UNRESTRICTED IMMO 4 LOL.

 

[The_Impress]

this got approved for removal by one of the main participaters, just remove it and put these reasonings

k

 

[AthelChan]

All matches listed on this page.

Player (Slap Battles)

The Player is an unofficial name for the controllable character in the Roblox Game Slap Battles. Not much is known about them outside of the fact that they can utilise a multitude of supernatural gloves that they use to fight other players. Tier: Unknown physically, up to at least 7-C with...

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Nobody in the matches can kill Slap now that he has UNRESTRICTED IMMO 4 LOL.

fix yo scans, i had to do it myself to find a reliable image for the aura gang.

 

[Arkansalter2]

fix yo scans, i had to do it myself to find a reliable image for the aura gang.

I wasn't even here to edit the page 7 weeks lol chill on me.

 

[Lilybitdun]

Suiryu flirts with Faora while she tries to kill him (7-0-0)

SUIRYU vs FAORA-UL Speed is equalised Starting distance of 5 meters Suiryu: 7 (@MARVEL_Future_Fight_Gamer, @Recon1511, @Artorimachi_Meteoraft, @Mariogoods, @Cimafranca133, @MaidRips, @BEASTHEART880) Faora-Ul: 0 Inconclusive:

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This match up between OPM Suiryu and DCEU Faora-Ul should be removed as Suiryu is Low 7-B now while she's still only 7-C+

 

[Nonynho]

Ayanokouji vs L, but in Chess

The Heavenly Masterpiece Vs God's Intuition Both will play a game of Classical Chess with a 30-minute timer and a 30-second increment L is given 1 week of prep to know the ins and outs of Chess ANHS Key is used Speed equalized Ayanokouji: XxZetsuxX TheHuntsman1001 Doggo AlipheeseXIV...

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Heya

This should be removed from the profiles due to (purposefully) disconsidering part of L's profile without taking it off through a CRT

 

[Crimsonobu]

Ayanokouji vs L, but in Chess

The Heavenly Masterpiece Vs God's Intuition Both will play a game of Classical Chess with a 30-minute timer and a 30-second increment L is given 1 week of prep to know the ins and outs of Chess ANHS Key is used Speed equalized Ayanokouji: XxZetsuxX TheHuntsman1001 Doggo AlipheeseXIV...

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Heya

This should be removed from the profiles due to (purposefully) disconsidering part of L's profile without taking it off through a CRT

Dude why is a SCD doc on vs battle. SCD people don't even agree 90% of the time.

Perfect memory Ayanokoji got debunked in SCD, rebunked, debunked for infinite loops. But we don't use that as its accepted in vs battle.

 

[Nonynho]

Dude why is a SCD doc on vs battle. SCD people don't even agree 90% of the time.

Perfect memory Ayanokoji got debunked in SCD, rebunked, debunked for infinite loops. But we don't use that as its accepted in vs battle.

 

[Crimsonobu]

I also don't think that's a valid match up either way.

Vs battle thread rules

Indirect or non-combat versus threads, such as racing, are allowed to be made and added to profiles if the match-up relies on the particulars of their feats, and leads to a notable discussion. Those feats, if particularly niche or generally unimportant, don't have to be listed on their profiles. The only fictional characters involved in these matches should be the competitors themselves.

L has no chess feats. It'd be equivalent of putting Senku up against Ayanokoji when Senku has none. Or Luffy for that matter.

It's just speculation how well he'd do with a week of prep time and no particular feats can be used for that match.

 

[NitroWatch]

I also don't think that's a valid match up either way.

Vs battle thread rules


L has no chess feats. It'd be equivalent of putting Senku up against Ayanokoji when Senku has none. Or Luffy for that matter.

It's just speculation how well he'd do with a week of prep time and no particular feats can be used for that match.

Not a issue, there’s a Ayanokouji vs Komugi matchup despite Koji having no Gungi feats + Plus L already has a matchup where he faces against someone in chess

 

[NitroWatch]

Ayanokouji vs L, but in Chess

The Heavenly Masterpiece Vs God's Intuition Both will play a game of Classical Chess with a 30-minute timer and a 30-second increment L is given 1 week of prep to know the ins and outs of Chess ANHS Key is used Speed equalized Ayanokouji: XxZetsuxX TheHuntsman1001 Doggo AlipheeseXIV...

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Heya

This should be removed from the profiles due to (purposefully) disconsidering part of L's profile without taking it off through a CRT

I believe Huntsman will do a CRT about stock feat, plus if you actually read the discussion, many people like Zefra and Moo9n argued why stock feat isnt as it’s chalked up to be; ie the feat isnt being disregarded

 

[Crimsonobu]

Not a issue, there’s a Ayanokouji vs Komugi matchup despite Koji having no Gungi feats + Plus L already has a matchup where he faces against someone in chess

The first match up is valid because we know Kiyotaka has accelerated development in all fields whereas L doesn't. The second match up is invalid and is whataboutism.

 

[GeneralSol16]

This MU must be removed, the Omnitrix got upgraded and now resists all of Yukari's wincons are invalid, same with the stats difference.

CN Teenager vs Anime Girl

Speed is equalized Omiverse Ben is being used with master control, he is blooddusted but Alien x is restricted 40m from each other. Battle takes Place in Tokyo SBA Ben TennysonUltimate-Rex1, Hellformer, ABSOLUTE-ABSTRACT-KING, Razor, AigerTheKing, Lort15 Yukari YakumoTopaz404, Ebihara...

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[StrymULTRA]

I have noticed that Frisk vs Subaru is still on their profiles as an inconclusive, when that should have been a Frisk W.

The main reason why is that as generally agreed here and here (the Arceus match was removed only after its 1-C upgrade), Frisk's SI is not an incon machine but instead gives them a W, because of it being counted as a victory for Frisk in-game, and why is that? Because of MERCY causing the opponent to give up the fight, thus is a self-incap instead of a mutual agreement of giving up.

These 2 were agreed as Frisk's W even from multiple staffs participating in the thread, so there's no reason why the Subaru match should stay.

On a new VS Thread, re-reading the Spamton vs Jevil thread, I have also noticed there are several issues there that I did not realize until re-checking some things from Deltarune (that's my fault for not arguing much there sheesh):

• The main wincon from Jevil was that his Durability Negation can circumvent Spamton's Bluelight Specil, a technique that allows him to massively increase his defense while decreasing his attack, turning the battle in a war of attrition that comes down to stamina. This is what gave to Spamton a W in the previous thread, BUT the dura neg of Jevil is fraudulent, as it only reduces the HPs of 30%, but if the average remaining HPs is too low it does nothing. Basically the wincon for supposedly circumventing the durability negation increase is on an attack that does not kill by its own. Otherwise, Bluelight Specil allows Spamton NEO to straight up eat the attacks of a Kris that grew stronger compared to when they fought Jevil, he'd have no issue with stalling Jevil's attacks while self-healing.
• Spamton NEO should be much superior to his base self who is implied to have survived a fight with Jevil according to the latter's AP description, AND has a much better mobility compared to also the Fun Gang who defeated Jevil considering that he can fly with wires unlike them. So there's no reason why he shouldn't just be able to still react properly to these attacks, as bosses do attempt to dodge attacks in-universe unlike in the gameplay.

The entire thing was also a FRA train after the mention of the dura neg, without mentioning that one part of it not being lethal. If you think I am lying about that part, well...

 

[Ebihara]

Wont comment on the validity of agurements for that cooking matchup. But as our rules stand this would be allowed.

 

[AAARabbit]

The thread was Kai from Ninjago vs Insight aka Lacrymira from Arcaea. The users in the thread seemed to be more knowledgeable about Ninjago than Arcaea, so there were many flaws in the arguments of the ones in the thread. I pointed out a few. Sorry it's really long
Kai's profile and Insight's profile for reference.
...How do I collapse a post?

She needed to dry her eyes and then make them bleed, she can't really do that on an instant, and Kai would do that

This was about time stopping. In the battle, they are supposed to be using Post-Ascension Insight, yet they are using Pre-Ascension Insight's limitation on time stopping (which was that when Pre-Ascension Insight tried to do it, her eyes dried out and started bleeding). Post-Ascension Insight doesn't need to dry her eyes and make them bleed to freeze time, she could do that effortlessly, as seen in Lasting Eden: Chapter 2 (aka Severed Eden).

"I begin to split time and space apart myself—behind me. At last I open a black and shining gate to "mine" and gently, Maya, while you're so still from shock and fear and confusion, I begin to pull you in. And there, there, you begin to unravel. As your fingertips meet with the boundary, your voice is lost and you start to unravel into glass threads. You unspool from your hand, past your arm, and to your chest and your body in a beautiful, silvery sight. Little wondrous splits without a single spot of blood continue all throughout your skin and where there might be inner parts... In waves of countless, brilliant, almost prismatic threads, you are drawn through the dark hole I have opened. Your shape now is like a melting harp waving through the air; its strings made of the prettiest white"
There is no mention of her eyes bleeding here, only in her Pre-Ascension form.
Text for Lasting Eden Chapter 2 as well as other stories can be found here (Arcaea's story is text based with little to no animated cutscenes)

Also, yes, Kai could theoretically just blast Insight before she could stop time, but Insight could either avoid it with precognition, pause time fast enough to stop the attack, unravel Kai like he did with Maya, there's a ton of different possibilities.

Well she's good at throwing spears but that's it

She can do a lot more than throwing spears. And she does have a lot of combat skills, even when she first ascended she managed to defeat a "god-like" being, so imagine what she could do at Post-Ascension.

And his fire manip outranges her

Post-Ascension Insight's range is around Stellar-Interdimensional. Pilots-Season 16 Kai's range is only Standard Melee Range-Hundreds of Meters. And even though Pilots-Season 16's Kai can control fire, Insight can control light, lightning, weather, colors, space-time, the laws of a universe, earth, air, and possibly reality itself.

Kai can not only create building size blasts, but is good at hitting flying targets even mid air. He can also fly with fire

Compared to being able to make stars and black holes, destroy worlds, and bend realities, it's not much.

Shouldn't really affect their wincoins

They're talking about Post-Insight's Omniscient level intelligence here. Pilots-Season 16 Kai's is only at Gifted. Significantly lower.

Insight can also destroy entire worlds. (Whether it refers to planets, dimensions (not the mathematical kind), or entire realities is unknown.)

Lucent Historia: "One final story remains for the Shapers, but it has already been told by another—in another place. The story of when the one you'd call 'Tairitsu' died, where Nell had died before her in vain. Because 'Powers' are 'power'. One can coax them, one can shift them, but on Lephon they always "are". An Angel descended. For the second and final time, the Shapers had a reckoning. But... The Eternal One was not there. She remains, and has remained for a very long time. Many years have passed. Centuries, maybe—although another might order events incorrectly, and tell you on top of that that 'it wasn’t long ago...'"

Silent Answer: "The will of the god above was worth more. Its wish had been for her and her kind to vanish, fall, and fade into dust, and that wish would be granted, in moments, by its hand. The girl saw her eyes in her own reflection, and watched as the image became distorted with her tears. She could see her grief through her shaking jaw, and her impotent, overwhelming pain. Nothing mattered at all. Nothing she had ever done, and nothing now. The black-haired girl kept her head bowed as the angel descended. When it reached her, it raised its hand. And shortly, she was gone." (referring to, and foreshadowing the quote above. Silent Answer, one of Main Story: Chapter 1's endings, comes before Lucent Historia, which is in Main Story: Chapter 2)

She also destroyed several worlds besides just Tairitsu's home world
Lasting Eden Chapter 2: "I've traveled across starlight to see you. I've traversed stormful skies for you. I have bent so many realities and torn others asunder to reach you, Maya!"

Insight also has Limitless stamina while Pilots-Season 16's Kai only has his stamina level at Superhuman. They also have the exact same Attack Power and Durability level, being at Star Level. I argue that Post-Ascension Insight should win against Pilots-Season 16 Kai, or it should be changed to an inconclusive.

And also, for what another user who is more knowledgeable on Arcaea had the same thought way before me that their unfamiliarity with Arcaea could've affected it.

Sorry if I sound rude. Also I didn't make an account just for this since I found that post yesterday and made my account a few days ago.

 

[Crimsonobu]

This MU must be removed, the Omnitrix got upgraded and now resists all of Yukari's wincons are invalid, same with the stats difference.

CN Teenager vs Anime Girl

Speed is equalized Omiverse Ben is being used with master control, he is blooddusted but Alien x is restricted 40m from each other. Battle takes Place in Tokyo SBA Ben TennysonUltimate-Rex1, Hellformer, ABSOLUTE-ABSTRACT-KING, Razor, AigerTheKing, Lort15 Yukari YakumoTopaz404, Ebihara...

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Why was this match up removed without permission? Also can you link the CRT that gives Ben immeasure speed and RE for his Omnitrix key

 

[Lort15]

Why was this match up removed without permission? Also can you link the CRT that gives Ben immeasure speed and RE for his Omnitrix key

I removed the match because of the upgrade was passed months ago we are allowed to remove them from profiles if upgrades like these are made https://vsbattles.com/threads/omnitrix-profile-revamp.188649/

 

[Crimsonobu]

I removed the match because of the upgrade was passed months ago we are allowed to remove them from profiles if upgrades like these are made https://vsbattles.com/threads/omnitrix-profile-revamp.188649/

The Omnitrix doesn't have RE which is listed as a removal of the match up because it was removed by Azmuth. The immeasurable speed calc on the Omnitrix page doesn't give it immeasurable speed when you check the blog so I thought I was missing something.

 

[Lort15]

The Omnitrix doesn't have RE which is listed as a removal of the match up because it was removed by Azmuth. The immeasurable speed calc on the Omnitrix page doesn't give it immeasurable speed when you check the blog so I thought I was missing something.

I see, RE was something only mentioned for the first key so we didn't really add the mana resistance again and again for an extra so we jus added "all previous abilities and resistances", the speed blog is outdated for sure but immeasurable speed is something omnitrix have for years the upgrade was involving statistic amplification and power bestowal

 

[Crimsonobu]

I see, RE was something only mentioned for the first key so we didn't really add the mana resistance over that for an extra so we jus added "all previous abilities and resistances", the speed blog is outdated for sure but immeasurable speed is something omnitrix have for years the upgrade was involving statistic amplification and power bestowal

Doesn't the Omnitrix explicitly lose RE as stated on the page? It's why I'm mentioning it because the removal says he resists Yukari's CM type 1 via Re but the page says

All powers and abilities of all previous devices, except for the Evolutionary Function, plus:

And RE doesn't mean you can adapt to CM1 always even so.

The immeasure speed makes sense.

 

[Lort15]

Doesn't the Omnitrix explicitly lose RE as stated on the page? It's why I'm mentioning it because the removal says he resists Yukari's CM type 1 via Re but the page says

It doesn't lose it, RE was for Mana resistance and mana resistance the one which gives omnitrix CM Type 1 resistance

The immeasure speed makes sense.

The main arg was based on that like i mentioned in the page failsafe amplifies aliens stats and speed so she get stomped before she can react

 

[Lloydblitzed]

This was about time stopping. In the battle, they are supposed to be using Post-Ascension Insight, yet they are using Pre-Ascension Insight's limitation on time stopping (which was that when Pre-Ascension Insight tried to do it, her eyes dried out and started bleeding). Post-Ascension Insight doesn't need to dry her eyes and make them bleed to freeze time, she could do that effortlessly, as seen in Lasting Eden: Chapter 2 (aka Severed Eden).

"I begin to split time and space apart myself—behind me. At last I open a black and shining gate to "mine" and gently, Maya, while you're so still from shock and fear and confusion, I begin to pull you in. And there, there, you begin to unravel. As your fingertips meet with the boundary, your voice is lost and you start to unravel into glass threads. You unspool from your hand, past your arm, and to your chest and your body in a beautiful, silvery sight. Little wondrous splits without a single spot of blood continue all throughout your skin and where there might be inner parts... In waves of countless, brilliant, almost prismatic threads, you are drawn through the dark hole I have opened. Your shape now is like a melting harp waving through the air; its strings made of the prettiest white"

The text you sent is a about splicing space-time, not time stop (not to count Kai himself and any EMs in the verse can stop cracks in reality)

Spatial Manipulation (Elemental Powers can close MergeQuakes, which are cracks in reality.)

There is no mention of her eyes bleeding here, only in her Pre-Ascension form.

Text for Lasting Eden Chapter 2 as well as other stories can be found here (Arcaea's story is text based with little to no animated cutscenes)

No one has mentionned or stated in that form that this limiter was removed inside the vs thread or the profile

Also, yes, Kai could theoretically just blast Insight before she could stop time, but Insight could either avoid it with precognition, pause time fast enough to stop the attack, unravel Kai like he did with Maya, there's a ton of different possibilities.

Kai can speed boost and simply attack faster than she would which has a massive impact on the fight. Also, how would she avoid attacks 5x larger than she is?

She can do a lot more than throwing spears. And she does have a lot of combat skills, even when she first ascended she managed to defeat a "god-like" being, so imagine what she could do at Post-Ascension.

Prove they are on the same level or superior to Kai's

Post-Ascension Insight's range is around Stellar-Interdimensional. Pilots-Season 16 Kai's range is only Standard Melee Range-Hundreds of Meters. And even though Pilots-Season 16's Kai can control fire, Insight can control light, lightning, weather, colors, space-time, the laws of a universe, earth, air, and possibly reality itself.

Her stellar range is explicitly stated to only be about Star collapsing attacks, her Melee and Spear Range is still inferior to Kai. He also has a speed amp move that allows him to attack faster

Compared to being able to make stars and black holes, destroy worlds, and bend realities, it's not much.

Prove she would all of these as a starting move against Kai

They're talking about Post-Insight's Omniscient level intelligence here. Pilots-Season 16 Kai's is only at Gifted. Significantly lower.

Kai only Gifted in general IQ, he's far higher in combat if you read the profile

Insight can also destroy entire worlds. (Whether it refers to planets, dimensions (not the mathematical kind), or entire realities is unknown.)

Lucent Historia: "One final story remains for the Shapers, but it has already been told by another—in another place. The story of when the one you'd call 'Tairitsu' died, where Nell had died before her in vain. Because 'Powers' are 'power'. One can coax them, one can shift them, but on Lephon they always "are". An Angel descended. For the second and final time, the Shapers had a reckoning. But... The Eternal One was not there. She remains, and has remained for a very long time. Many years have passed. Centuries, maybe—although another might order events incorrectly, and tell you on top of that that 'it wasn’t long ago...'"

Silent Answer: "The will of the god above was worth more. Its wish had been for her and her kind to vanish, fall, and fade into dust, and that wish would be granted, in moments, by its hand. The girl saw her eyes in her own reflection, and watched as the image became distorted with her tears. She could see her grief through her shaking jaw, and her impotent, overwhelming pain. Nothing mattered at all. Nothing she had ever done, and nothing now. The black-haired girl kept her head bowed as the angel descended. When it reached her, it raised its hand. And shortly, she was gone." (referring to, and foreshadowing the quote above. Silent Answer, one of Main Story: Chapter 1's endings, comes before Lucent Historia, which is in Main Story: Chapter 2)

She also destroyed several worlds besides just Tairitsu's home world
Lasting Eden Chapter 2: "I've traveled across starlight to see you. I've traversed stormful skies for you. I have bent so many realities and torn others asunder to reach you, Maya!"

Insight also has Limitless stamina while Pilots-Season 16's Kai only has his stamina level at Superhuman.

I don't think Stamina is relevant in the match due to their quick win wincoins on both sides. And I address the AP stuff below

They also have the exact same Attack Power and Durability level, being at Star Level. I argue that Post-Ascension Insight should win against Pilots-Season 16 Kai, or it should be changed to an inconclusive.

They do not have the same AP or Durability value. Kai scale higher than baseline 4-C (271.744407266 Quettatons) while she's stuck at the baseline (136.066 Quettatons)