"Regardless" in reference to his World. Him saying regardless doesn't automatically mean that the statement also applies to anything beyond his knowledge. The difference between the Silver Sea itself and the Worlds within it isn't a simple matter of being a greater infinity. Worlds literally cannot survive in the Silver Sea without being surrounded by Bubbles.
It wasn't in reference to it. "Regardless" here is in reference to anything be it within his scope of knowledge or not. Anos didn't even know who/what a nonconformist is before he created Venuzdonoa yet it destroyed "graham" who is outside "all of existence".
That difference is exactly what the "regardless" is for, it shows it doesn't matter what it is.
Wtf are you even saying now? It's merely a difference in infinity, that's the only difference in their size.
"Worlds can't survive in the sea" based on what? The silver water is just simply inhabitable and absorbs magic power from those who enter, that's all not to mention they're monsters or creatures that can survive in the sea regardless so this means nothing at all.
Your reasoning here makes sense. However, it's undeniably true that "all of existence (Militia World)" as Anos referred to means a World, and Venuzdonoa working in Deeper Worlds is Venuzdonoa still working in "all of existence (a World)", so I still disagree with you.
This doesn't deny my reasoning at all, you're just making an assumption. "All of Existence" (militia world) as
you say (Anos never made reference to the world as all of existence as they're places in it he didn't know about) means a world doesn't mean you can arbitrarily equalize it to "every world". The biggest supporting evidence is the fact that each world is fundamentally different due to their limited order. In the magic bullet world, only spells based on magic bullets work, The smithing world is limited to tools, the puppet world makes use of puppets etc. Each would contain parts of existence that clearly isn't in the other yet Venuzdonoa is able to affect them regardless of their laws, concepts & logic being outside what anos perceived as "all of existence"
That doesn't matter. Anos was still making a conscious statement with the knowledge he was aware of. And again, "all of existence (Militia World)"=World/Deeper World=World, you get the point.
Still he created something beyond "all of existence" (Venuzdonoa) yet thought the laws, voncepts and formula behind it were part of what he knew. Naturally, since he did create it, it would be part of what he perceives as "all of existence"
Also, being "fated to destroy the Silver Sea" doesn't have to mean that he would be capable of destroying the entire thing at once, so why would you automatically assume that when no other feats suggest it?
I never assumed such. There is no other interpretation that can be given to "fated to destroy this silver sea". Even if this is over time as i clearly interpret it as, fact remains the LoD of Evezeino
can destroy the sea. Venuzdonoa naturally scales above the LoD but the biggest factor would be that it doesn't care about time so the timeframe the LoD needs wouldn't matter to it as Venuzdonoa as established in Arc 4 is outside the Order of time, merely by holding it, one becomes removed from time itself.
Anyway, i don't care about this as it wasn't brought up by me.
However, the reasoning for Venuzdonoa being able to destroy the Silver Sea because it can destroy Order is still a massive reach that isn't backed by any other feats.
Order has been established as being something so fundamental that it is the reason of existence (Type 1 concept) not that existence is dependent on it (Type 2 concept possibly type 1). Even if order were a type 2 concept, these concepts can still alter every object they govern if they're altered themselves.
Nothing can exist without order, before there is anything, there must be order be it creation, destruction, life, death, time, causality, fate, space, minds etc. The silver sea is governed by order, a concept wouldn't automatically become type 3 because it exists in a higher dimensional space. Thus affecting the order of the silver sea would affect it.
The silver sea isn't affected by anos disrupting the order of destruction because they're at least countless*99 other worlds with the same order of destruction+ that of the silver sea as well.
PS: Can everyone except staff that isn't contributing in the argument stop replying already?
Ant is asking for a summary and there's no way to easily compile everything important into one short comment so at least lets keep things civil & short so that's whoever else that's evaluating this can easily access the current arguments.
My bad, ig all of the OP is repeated then.
