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Well, we are going in circles here. Deagonx has repeatedly explained why a The Presence/The Source > Perpetua > Hecate = The Upside-Down Man > The Great Evil Beast = The Presence scaling sequence does not make any sense, and applying an extra key to TUDM scaled from The Great Evil Beast at its peak does not make sense either, so I think that we should either give TGEB a post-retcon extra key scaled from TUDM, or strictly focus on Hecate's and TUDM's own personal feats for their scaling.