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You are quite wrong. The one who fought a polar bear with hysterical strength has no equipment, nor superior skill, for she is just an angry mother.
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Upgrading Composite Human to Possibly 9-B when using Hysterical Strength
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I agree wholeheartedly with Spino's proposal, its not a multiplier when one is able to trade blows with large Bears without issue (plus we do allow the use of multipliers as exhbited with Raiden and other characters).
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And if you call Wikipedia unreliable then I have nothing to say.
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According my experience from being an editor for several years, Wikipedia is commonly using tabloids with offhanded mentions as "evidence", rather than scientific examinations, and is generally extremely slanted in political areas, with lots of character-assassinations performed by activist editors who are protected by staff members who share their agendas, so it is not nearly as reliable as you think.
In addition, again, we can only use actual measured feats for evidence, and surprising a polar bear by fighting back would not be remotely comparable to knocking one out with a punch in any case.
In addition, again, we can only use actual measured feats for evidence, and surprising a polar bear by fighting back would not be remotely comparable to knocking one out with a punch in any case.
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People with hysterical strength can lift cars and fight bears and other animals, I don't see why Wall level is unacceptable.
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She even got honoured by the Canadian government.
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Unless a real world human has actually been measured exerting energy above the 9-B border, we cannot use it to scale from. That is it.
I am getting very tired of repeating myself, and would much prefer to close this thread.
I am getting very tired of repeating myself, and would much prefer to close this thread.
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Fine here you go:
People lift 3500-pound cars with hysterical strength high enough and long enough. If we assume they lifted cars 1 m then the potential energy would be over 15 kilojoules, which is Wall level.
I don't see a problem with the polar bear feat at all. You call it unreliable, but you can find it all over the Internet.
People lift 3500-pound cars with hysterical strength high enough and long enough. If we assume they lifted cars 1 m then the potential energy would be over 15 kilojoules, which is Wall level.
I don't see a problem with the polar bear feat at all. You call it unreliable, but you can find it all over the Internet.
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XING06 already debunked the lifting cars claim. Nobody human can lift an entire car over their heads, or it would be a massive scientific breakthrough. What you are thinking of is accomplished mostly through leverage and weight distribution. That is all.
I am very busy, and cannot repeat myself forever. I would appreciate if you would be reasonable and permanently drop this subject. Thank you.
I am very busy, and cannot repeat myself forever. I would appreciate if you would be reasonable and permanently drop this subject. Thank you.
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XING06 was actually supporting 9-B.
I'm pretty sure someone lifted a car off the ground, I'll try to find it.
And I do not understand at all why you disagree with the polar bear feat.
I'm pretty sure someone lifted a car off the ground, I'll try to find it.
And I do not understand at all why you disagree with the polar bear feat.
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Because being desperate enough to fight back against a polar bear is not remotely the same as overpowering a polar bear.
This is about real life, not fiction, and as such we should be stricter in using actual energy measurements, rather than x beats y scaling.
Wolverines and honey badgers can kill animals far larger than themselves, as meat is soft enough to do so, if attacked at a vulnerable spot, but that does not make them 9-B either.
This is about real life, not fiction, and as such we should be stricter in using actual energy measurements, rather than x beats y scaling.
Wolverines and honey badgers can kill animals far larger than themselves, as meat is soft enough to do so, if attacked at a vulnerable spot, but that does not make them 9-B either.
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Still disagree, but fine.
Regardless, XIN agreed 9-B using a "hypothetical multiplier". You say we cannot use multipliers, but if we can't we may as well as delete the Combined Human page.
Regardless, XIN agreed 9-B using a "hypothetical multiplier". You say we cannot use multipliers, but if we can't we may as well as delete the Combined Human page.
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@Fh
Well, as long as they have a maximum energy output that is higher than the lower border of 9-B, we can use it, but I think that several of our real world animal profiles are unfortunately probably inaccurate in this regard.
Well, as long as they have a maximum energy output that is higher than the lower border of 9-B, we can use it, but I think that several of our real world animal profiles are unfortunately probably inaccurate in this regard.
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@Spino
I personally think that we should delete the Combined Human page, as it is based on a thought experiment, rather than any concrete real world animal or weapon, much less notable fictional characters, but you are comparing apples with oranges.
The composite human page is supposed to feature the maximum measured values for real world humans, not thought experiments or speculation. If we start to insert wild theories into the page, we would make fools of ourselves to our general audience.
I personally think that we should delete the Combined Human page, as it is based on a thought experiment, rather than any concrete real world animal or weapon, much less notable fictional characters, but you are comparing apples with oranges.
The composite human page is supposed to feature the maximum measured values for real world humans, not thought experiments or speculation. If we start to insert wild theories into the page, we would make fools of ourselves to our general audience.
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@Ant Do you mean composite human is supposed to feature measured values?
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I am actually kinda curious now, How exactly did a profile like Combined Human come to be made in the first place?
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Yes for now.
I will look for 9-B feats.
I will look for 9-B feats.
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@Spino Best of luck.
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@Therefir
We cannot use a 450 kilogram obese man moving at the speed of Usain Bolt as the standard, and preferably shouldn't do so for animals either, as it isn't realistic.
@Spino
Please remember that only scientific evidence is acceptable.
@All
In any case, I will close this thread now.
We cannot use a 450 kilogram obese man moving at the speed of Usain Bolt as the standard, and preferably shouldn't do so for animals either, as it isn't realistic.
@Spino
Please remember that only scientific evidence is acceptable.
@All
In any case, I will close this thread now.
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