Lifting Strength+Superhuman Questions When Composite Human Was Here

[H3110l12345I20]

Composite Human had Class 5 LS, how come peak human in the official lifting strength page isn’t up to there?

Is the “Superhuman” placed there in-case we have superhuman feats? If that’s the case, why don’t we bump up the boundary of Peak Human & Superhuman? Guinness World Records has explicitly stated that Ernest backlifted 2422.18 kg, & he casually backlifted 2 oxen. Oxen males weigh 450 kg when matured. That contradicts the claim that no human has moved mass above peak human LS.

Note: This is meant to be a question for my work on composite human, not to CRT the lifting strength page.

DarlingAurora brought up the point that her dad with substantial effort can push a car (likely referring to it in the neutral setting), therefore, Ernest shouldn’t be class 5 in LS. But would Ernest backlifting something or more stuff of comparable weight to the aforementioned car cause more, the same or less force than a guy pushing a car on neutral?

The purpose of the Superhuman Physical Characteristics page is intended for characters with superhuman strength, speed, durability, etc. Can’t the definition of superhuman be interpreted to be far above average people & therefore, apply to composite human being superhuman? Shouldn’t composite human be peak human & not superhuman since they’re not above any human?

 

[H3110l12345I20]

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[KLOL506]

Problem was, we don't treat different types of LS to scale equally for IRL profiles, like, an overhead press (Lifting the weight above your head) is visibly different from a backlift and has a different lifting limit.

 

[H3110l12345I20]

Problem was, we don't treat different types of LS to scale equally for IRL profiles, like, an overhead press (Lifting the weight above your head) is visibly different from a backlift and has a different lifting limit.

Well, would a normal person minorly shaking or with all their strength, pushing a car on neutral yield less newtons than Ernest's backlift?

 

[Flashlight237]

Well, would a normal person minorly shaking or with all their strength, pushing a car on neutral yield less newtons than Ernest's backlift?

It does. Look up "rolling friction" and "rolling friction coefficient" and see for yourself.

 

[KLOL506]

Well, would a normal person minorly shaking or with all their strength, pushing a car on neutral yield less newtons than Ernest's backlift?

Normally speaking, yeah. Depends on the surface friction coefficient, like Flash said. Could range from 75% to less than 40% of the newton value of the car itself. Force exerted could be much higher if you've got the brakes on or if the car is accelerating against you.

Stopping moving cars on the other hand, is a different story.

 

[Crabwhale]

I basically echo what KLOL already said.

 

[H3110l12345I20]

The purpose of the Superhuman Physical Characteristics page is intended for characters with superhuman strength, speed, durability, etc. Can’t the definition of superhuman be interpreted to be far above average people & therefore, apply to composite human being superhuman? Shouldn’t composite human be peak human & not superhuman since they’re not above any human?

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I'm pretty sure the definition of superhuman part is breaking the heart of the matter though.

 

[H3110l12345I20]

Problem was, we don't treat different types of LS to scale equally for IRL profiles, like, an overhead press (Lifting the weight above your head) is visibly different from a backlift and has a different lifting limit.

I basically echo what KLOL already said.

We were to rate composite human's lifting strength now (VSBW/JBW), would it be peak human, Class 5, or Class 100?

I've stumbled apon another thread where Crabwhale here stated that the different methods of lifting & oversimplification of the lifting strength tiers are a factor. This leads to real people who can lift/push/pull force/mass above 545.2 kg being peak human. Would that apply to composite human, thus leaving composite human at peak human lifting strength?

 

[KLOL506]

Well, CH would still have those lifting strength values, albeit listed separately.

As for the pulling thing, it'd be prolly nerfed massively by friction coefficient so it'd be a lot lower than Class 100.

 

[H3110l12345I20]

Well, CH would still have those lifting strength values, albeit listed separately.

As for the pulling thing, it'd be prolly nerfed massively by friction coefficient so it'd be a lot lower than Class 100.

Thanks for the answer!