Upgrade for Spiritual Lifeforms [TenSura]

[Astral_Trinity439]

Lets get straight to the point this time, and avoid derailing the thread with useless arguments or comments. With that done, lets begin

Concept Type 1 Upgrade

Currently, we have Spiritual Lifeforms as Type 2 Concepts based of this :

Abstract Existence (Type 1 - Concept (Type 2) - Elemental Spirits; Spiritual Lifeforms are embodiment of the attributes of the abstract laws that govern each principle of the world[10], such as Demons, embodiment of the darkness attribute[11]

To add, It is also implied that they exist in a form of Conceptual Self

Now, for the upgrade

Spiritual Lifeforms can go to and thus retain their form at the End of Space and Time, the end of Space and Time is a point beyond Space and Time, where the World has been destroyed.
So, this means they can, under normal circumstances and without external influence, survive the destruction of the World/Reality.
Additionally, they can also travel to different Worlds, which shows their independence to their own World/Reality
To top that off even more, we know that Spiritual Lifeforms embody Laws governing the world, but they can go to different Worlds that each have their own set of unique Laws and are unbound by Karma, or, they have no causality between them, which means destruction of one world would not effect the other.
This makes it even more clear that Spiritual Lifeforms are independent of the Reality they govern as concepts.

Additionally, their bodies in the material world[not cardinal world] are merely their manifestations, the objects they govern in that reality, [which would be, in this case, the "objects" a concept governs], and they can abandon that physical body [its not really physical to begin with, tho], meaning they can give up their manifested objects anytime they want, and return to their original, spiritual form

To conclude, they are independent of the reality they govern as well as their objects in that reality

What will be upgraded?

Spiritual Lifeforms will have their Conceptual nature be upgraded from Type 2 to Type 1
Same with their passives on their concept

1. Independent Universal Concepts: Such concepts are completely independent from the part of reality they govern, except maybe of other concepts of this nature. These concepts shape all of reality within their area of influence and at whatever level that area exists in, and everything in it "participates" in these concepts. For example, a circular object is circular because it is "participating" in the concept of "circle-ness". In this way, the alteration of these concepts will change every object of the concept across all of their area of influence, while the opposite wouldn't affect the concept.

Speed Upgrade

Spiritual Lifeforms can go to the end of Space and time, which is a point in the distant future where space and time end, it's both the beginning of time as well as the end of it. and from the context, its clear that this is based on "movement" [it uses the word "move", and in the first panel, even shows that its movement]

Counter arguments :
But than wouldn't there be no point in Feldway sending Rimuru to the end of time?
Rimuru wasn't able to go back normally due to being a Spiritual Lifeform, its because time in the past had been stopped by Feldway, there was no flow of time, so no point to go back to as the flow didn't exist to begin with, which was why Chloe couldn't go back if she were in such a situation, as there was no flow of time itself.
So him not being able to do so was an entirely unique case

Note, this is not movement AT End of Space-Time nor is movement IN a void being noted here, but movement TO the end of time, a distant future point in time.

Immeasurable speed characters are far beyond even those Infinite speed characters listed above. They perceive infinite speed characters as completely frozen, and they can travel forward and backward in time at will. They have the speed necessary to hop from the beginning of time, to the end of time, and anywhere in between as casually as a human being can roll their eyes left or right. This also means their reaction time is faster than instantaneous. They can dodge an attack that already has been struck, and they can strike someone even before they launched an attack. And they can do all of this via sheer speed. - Source

Additionally, they can travel to different "Worlds", that have different flows of time as well as different[unsynchronized] time axes[temporal dimension]. Even more so, to travel to and thus locate a different world, one needs to synchronize its timelines as well, said timelines have their own time axes[temporal dimensions] too.

Immeasurable (Movement unbound from the flow of linear time, which cannot be measured. Given that S = D/T, if T is undefined, the speed formula cannot be applied. This is the same reason why multiple temporal dimensions also grant immeasurable speed. For further information, see the "Further Explanations"-section below)

So, they can move not only to future points in time THROUGH MOVEMENT, they can also "travel" to different Worlds, which have different flows of time, and also different time axes/temporal dimensions.

As for the type, I think Travel Speed should be it. This should be enough for Time Travel through movement. It should be noted that in-verse, beings cannot even reach SoL travel speed or combat speed without being a special type of lifeform.

Edit :

Others

Avatar Creation : A Spiritual Lifeform's true body resides in Spiritual Worlds, while their body in other worlds is an incomplete form that they can abandon anytime returing to their original self

Final TL;DR?

• Spiritual Lifeforms are upgraded to Type 1 Concepts, and their abilities related to them as well.
• Spiritual Lifeforms have Immeasurable TRAVEL speed [not attack or combat speed]
• Spiritual Lifeforms get Avatar Creation

Agree with Speed/Time Travel and CM1 : Tempestdragon6, Incomprehensibleexistence, Milly_Rocking_Bandit, MrTim, Mizuki67, ELITE127, Catpija, Wikisource
DarkDragonMedeus


Disagree :


Netural : Catpija [with speed],

 

[Tempestdragon6]

look good

 

[Incomprehensibleexistence]

Agree

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Agree.

 

[MrTim]

аgree

 

[Mizuki67]

Lets get straight to the point this time, and avoid derailing the thread with useless arguments or comments. With that done, lets begin

Concept Type 1 Upgrade

Currently, we have Spiritual Lifeforms as Type 2 Concepts based of this :

To add, It is also implied that they exist in a form of Conceptual Self

Now, for the upgrade

Spiritual Lifeforms can go to and thus retain their form at the End of Space and Time, the end of Space and Time is a point beyond Space and Time, where the World has been destroyed.
So, this means they can, under normal circumstances and without external influence, survive the destruction of the World/Reality.
Additionally, they can also travel to different Worlds, which shows their independence to their own World/Reality
To top that off even more, we know that Spiritual Lifeforms embody Laws governing the world, but they can go to different Worlds that each have their own set of unique Laws and are unbound by Karma, or, they have no causality between them, which means destruction of one world would not effect the other.
This makes it even more clear that Spiritual Lifeforms are independent of the Reality they govern as concepts.

Additionally, their bodies in the material world[not cardinal world] are merely their manifestations, the objects they govern in that reality, [which would be, in this case, the "objects" a concept governs], and they can abandon that physical body [its not really physical to begin with, tho], meaning they can give up their manifested objects anytime they want, and return to their original, spiritual form

To conclude, they are independent of the reality they govern as well as their objects in that reality

What will be upgraded?

Spiritual Lifeforms will have their Conceptual nature be upgraded from Type 2 to Type 1
Same with their passives on their concept

Speed Upgrade

Spiritual Lifeforms can go to the end of Space and time, which is a point in the distant future where space and time end, it's both the beginning of time as well as the end of it. and from the context, its clear that this is based on "movement" [it uses the word "move", and in the first panel, even shows that its movement]

As for the type, I think Travel Speed should be it.

Final TL;DR?

• Spiritual Lifeforms are upgraded to Type 1 Concepts, and their abilities related to them as well.
• Spiritual Lifeforms have Immeasurable TRAVEL speed [not attack or combat speed]

I was told to give input on this. I am back again ig sigh.

About immeasurable speed . I was told that character moving in timeless void doesn't necessarily equate to speed and no one in tensura could reach FTL speed pls keep that in mind. So yeah moving at the end of space-time is not going to give you immeasurable either. This is just dimension travel, time travel and portal creation from what we have discussed previously. However, Time Travel for Tensura is quite unique since they could travel to any time period including the end of space-time.

Agree with the rest though.

I will just call some staff to evaluate this

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

About immeasurable speed . I was told that character moving in timeless void doesn't necessarily equate to speed

I must clarify, this is not moving AT/IN EOST, but TO EOST
They're "moving" from a point in the present TO the end of time, a point in the distant future.

and no one in tensura could reach FTL speed pls keep that in mind.

This again.....

Immeasurable (Movement unbound from the flow of linear time, which cannot be measured. Given that S = D/T, if T is undefined, the speed formula cannot be applied. This is the same reason why multiple temporal dimensions also grant immeasurable speed. For further information, see the "Further Explanations"-section below)

Immeasurable speed is going to different points in time through sheer movement, or being unbound by linear time. So whether they can reach FTL or not is irrelevant here.

So yeah moving at the end of space-time is not going to give you immeasurable either.

You're wrongly interpreting the OP
its not moving at End of space-time, but to end of space-time
come on man, at least read the OP carefully, no hate.

This is just dimension travel, time travel and portal creation from what we have discussed previously.

How is this dimensional travel when it clearly says "move" and even in the graphical context, indicates movement?
Oh, and speaking of that, I think I found another relevant feat, will add it to OP

Agree with the rest though.

Alright, and please read the OP again for the Immeasurable speed part.

I will just call some staff to evaluate this

Thanks

 

[Mizuki67]

I must clarify, this is not moving AT/IN EOST, but TO EOST
They're "moving" from a point in the present TO the end of time, a point in the distant future.

This again.....

Immeasurable speed is going to different points in time through sheer movement, or being unbound by linear time. So whether they can reach FTL or not is irrelevant here.

You're wrongly interpreting the OP
its not moving at End of space-time, but to end of space-time
come on man, at least read the OP carefully, no hate.

hmm idk then I can see a possible immeasurable speed but bear in mind that I couldn't control what other people or staff think.

 

[Catpija]

Uhh, wouldn't this just be a hyperbole? Its just Rimuru exaggerating how now Treyni can go anywhere, not that she can literally go to the end of time and space.

It would also defeat the point that Feldway chose to banish Rimuru to the end of time and space, since that would literally be useless if in general Spiritual Lifeform can go there and come back.

I disagree for Immeasureable Speed.

 

[Mizuki67]

Uhh, wouldn't this just be a hyperbole? Its just Rimuru exaggerating how now Treyni can go anywhere, not that she can literally go to the end of time and space.

It would also defeat the point that Feldway chose to banish Rimuru to the end of time and space, since that would literally be useless if in general Spiritual Lifeform can go there and come back.

I disagree for Immeasureable Speed.

seems like it but given the evidence of what op presented i think i can agree that they are not restricted by law and we all know that the law is what governs the world in tensura. They will not be affected even if the world were to be destroyed. This is true same goes to true dragons as well which are said to be the highest tier spiritual lifeform

 

[Catpija]

seems like it but given the evidence of what op presented i think i can agree that they do not need to embody a law

What

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

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Added more context to OP

 

[Mizuki67]

What



Additionally, they can also travel to different Worlds, which shows their independence to their own World/Reality
To top that off even more, we know that Spiritual Lifeforms embody Laws governing the world, but they can go to different Worlds that each have their own set of unique Laws and are unbound by Karma, or, they have no causality between them, which means destruction of one world would not effect the other.
This makes it even more clear that Spiritual Lifeforms are independent of the Reality they govern as concepts.

Additionally, their bodies in the material world[not cardinal world] are merely their manifestations, the objects they govern in that reality, [which would be, in this case, the "objects" a concept governs], and they can abandon that physical body [its not really physical to begin with, tho], meaning they can give up their manifested objects anytime they want, and return to their original, spiritual form

To conclude, they are independent of the reality they govern as well as their objects in that reality

What will be upgraded?

Spiritual Lifeforms will have their Conceptual nature be upgraded from Type 2 to Type 1
Same with their passives on their concept

 

[Mizuki67]

What

please read again. What i mean is that they do not need what they represent as law. Evidence are shown there

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Uhh, wouldn't this just be a hyperbole? Its just Rimuru exaggerating how now Treyni can go anywhere, not that she can literally go to the end of time and space.

It would also defeat the point that Feldway chose to banish Rimuru to the end of time and space, since that would literally be useless if in general Spiritual Lifeform can go there and come back.

He banished him to EOST but keep in mind that Rimuru was unconsciousness there for countless years/eternity
And as already shown in one of the scans, Feldway at that point had already long since destroyed the cardinal universe, his purpose itself had been fulfilled.

As for why Rimuru wasn't able to go back normally due to being a Spiritual Lifeform, its because time in the past had been stopped by feldway, there was no flow of time, so no point to go back to as the flow didn't exist to begin with, which was why Chloe couldn't go back if she were in such a situation, as there was no flow of time itself.

So that does not really serve as an anti-feat

edit : Added this to OP too

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Uhh, wouldn't this just be a hyperbole?

normally would be, but considering the other feats, we can conclude it its truth to it

 

[Jozaysmith?]

Addressing all points

Counter arguments :
But than wouldn't there be no point in Feldway sending Rimuru to the end of time?
Rimuru wasn't able to go back normally due to being a Spiritual Lifeform, its because time in the past had been stopped by Feldway, there was no flow of time, so no point to go back to as the flow didn't exist to begin with, which was why Chloe couldn't go back if she were in such a situation, as there was no flow of time itself.
So him not being able to do so was an entirely unique case

The end of time and space is a world where time and space is 0, so there's no way going back, Feldway used the flow of time and repulsion of space is Send the target to another timeline but because of how massive is energy is, he got forced into the end of time, why rimuru can't go back is genuinely because that very world was without time and space for information please check the cosmology page

Concept Type 1 Upgrade

Currently, we have Spiritual Lifeforms as Type 2 Concepts based of this :

To add, It is also implied that they exist in a form of Conceptual Self

Now, for the upgrade

Spiritual Lifeforms can go to and thus retain their form at the End of Space and Time, the end of Space and Time is a point beyond Space and Time, where the World has been destroyed.
So, this means they can, under normal circumstances and without external influence, survive the destruction of the World/Reality.
Additionally, they can also travel to different Worlds, which shows their independence to their own World/Reality
To top that off even more, we know that Spiritual Lifeforms embody Laws governing the world, but they can go to different Worlds that each have their own set of unique Laws and are unbound by Karma, or, they have no causality between them, which means destruction of one world would not effect the other.
This makes it even more clear that Spiritual Lifeforms are independent of the Reality they govern as concepts.

Additionally, their bodies in the material world[not cardinal world] are merely their manifestations, the objects they govern in that reality, [which would be, in this case, the "objects" a concept governs], and they can abandon that physical body [its not really physical to begin with, tho], meaning they can give up their manifested objects anytime they want, and return to their original, spiritual form

To conclude, they are independent of the reality they govern as well as their objects in that reality

What will be upgraded?

Spiritual Lifeforms will have their Conceptual nature be upgraded from Type 2 to Type 1
Same with their passives on their concepts

Independent concepts doesn't work that way, spiritual lifeforms do not exist separately from their attributes, they exist as it, independent concepts doesnt mean living a world or some bs, it clearly means being the very root of an idea, spiritual lifeforms are beings made out of the Great spirits, which are spirits that existed before the world, bore the attributes that govern them are independent of their natures
They can't also go back to the end of time and space, spiritual lifeforms can just retain their body even if their there that's all, it doesn't mean they can go there, that's simply suicide, it was stated that even spiritual lifeforms would die in that void
So i don't know where you came up with such baseless conclusions that they can go to the end of time, rimuru had to develop space Time transfer to leave there despite all those questions

• Spiritual Lifeforms are upgraded to Type 1 Concepts, and their abilities related to them as well.
• Spiritual Lifeforms have Immeasurable TRAVEL speed [not attack or combat speed]

Only upgrade am seeing here is time travel and Avatar creation

 

[Catpija]

please read again. What i mean is that they do not need what they represent as law. Evidence are shown there

I wasn't talking about that though....

 

[Jozaysmith?]

The thread is taking leaving a world as being independent concept is baffling

 

[Catpija]

He banished him to EOST but keep in mind that Rimuru was unconsciousness there for countless years/eternity
And as already shown in one of the scans, Feldway at that point had already long since destroyed the cardinal universe, his purpose itself had been fulfilled.

As for why Rimuru wasn't able to go back normally due to being a Spiritual Lifeform, its because time in the past had been stopped by feldway, there was no flow of time, so no point to go back to as the flow didn't exist to begin with, which was why Chloe couldn't go back if she were in such a situation, as there was no flow of time itself.

So that does not really serve as an anti-feat

Fair enough. I didn't read the newest volume so I had no idea of that.

normally would be, but considering the other feats, we can conclude it its truth to it

The other feats where they can travel to another dimension with different timeline/time axis? That has nothing to do with Immeasureable Speed.

Tbh that scans is really, really suspicious considering no context is provided. Doesn't "crossing the world" refers to about how Spiritual Lifeform can teleport/use portal to the human realm? I might be wrong since its been a long time since I read the books.

Anyway I still think Rimuru's statement is purely hyperbolical. It might be different if Rimuru was talking about how fast Dryad was that they can travel to the end of time & space, or how they possess special transportation method which they able to reach there, but no. Rimuru was, in that context, saying that Treyni was free to move anywhere now unbounded from their "tree" body, then further exaggerated that "even ot the end of time and space".


I don't think its Immeasureable Speed nor Time Travel, but eh just put me to neutral.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

The end of time and space is a world where time and space is 0, so there's no way going back, Feldway used the flow of time and repulsion of space is Send the target to another timeline but because of how massive is energy is, he got forced into the end of time, why rimuru can't go back is genuinely because that very world was without time and space for information please check the cosmology page

There is nothing indicating he sent him to another timeline, in fact, it even clarifies that the end of space-time is a "far distant future" of the world
Also, in the first place, how does this concern what I am addressing? In that, the end of space-time is a different point in time, a far distant future?

Independent concepts doesn't work that way, spiritual lifeforms do not exist separately from their attributes, they exist as it, independent concepts doesnt mean living a world or some bs, it clearly means being the very root of an idea, spiritual lifeforms are beings made out of the Great spirits, which are spirits that existed before the world, bore the attributes that govern them are independent of their natures

This does not effect anything. Existing before the world is one way to clarify for a type 1 concept, surviving destruction of reality is another. And its clear that at the end of space-time, the universe has been destroyed. Scans in the OP.
You're clearly limiting how one can qualify for type 1 concepts here.

Also, them being made of Great Spirits does not limit anything. That would simply be context for great spirits being a higher degree than the baseline type 1 concepts. Type 1 concepts has nothing to do with being made of something else. It means being independent of reality the concept governs in a way that you are unaffected even if the reality is destroyed, or being unaffected by the destruction of the object that concept governs [which in this case would be their physical forms]

Spiritual Lifeforms are concepts, they are unaffected by the destruction of reality. How does this not qualify for Type 1 independent concepts? We're talking about universally independent, not some bs where they have to be independent of the whole 2-B or 2-A multiverse.

They can't also go back to the end of time and space, spiritual lifeforms can just retain their body even if their there that's all, it doesn't mean they can go there, that's simply suicide,

This is already addressed in the OP. The scan itself clearly indicates they can go to the end of space-time, and at that, by movement. On the other hand, it being suicide is already addressed as Velgrynd didn't die there either. It's mentally suicide because one wouldn't be able to bear the loneliness, it is never said they would die in the literal sense.

it was stated that even spiritual lifeforms would die in that void

This just says their consciousness becomes "hazy", them dying is your wrong interpretation. There is literally no statement implying they die in the literal sense.

So i don't know where you came up with such baseless conclusions that they can go to the end of time, rimuru had to develop space Time transfer to leave there despite all those questions

already answered in the OP in counter argument section, Rimuru couldn't go back via being a spiritual lifeform because flow of time was stopped, so there was no point to back to in the flow of time when the flow itself didn't exist.


All this is just ignoring all the relevant context in the OP

 

[Jozaysmith?]

You don't even have a relevant context in the first place a digital lifeform who is transcendental over SPL isn't immeasurable speed or some bs, existing outside a world isn't CM1 and PLEASE stop mis painting every single god damn quote or used sentences
Because rimuru said treyni can retain her form even at the end of time just means she can go anywhere without losing her form or connection to the main body and thats all there's no other context behind this
If you want to still be stubborn then be my guest, talking to people who are like this is waste of Time and Space

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

The other feats where they can travel to another dimension with different timeline/time axis? That has nothing to do with Immeasureable Speed.

This :

Immeasurable (Movement unbound from the flow of linear time, which cannot be measured. Given that S = D/T, if T is undefined, the speed formula cannot be applied. This is the same reason why multiple temporal dimensions also grant immeasurable speed. For further information, see the "Further Explanations"-section below)

Time Axis mean temporal Dimension. "Space-time with its own time axis" means said space-time has its own temporal dimension, instead of a shared one.

Tbh that scans is really, really suspicious considering no context is provided. Doesn't "crossing the world" refers to about how Spiritual Lifeform can teleport/use portal to the human realm? I might be wrong since its been a long time since I read the books.

Them being capable of crossing worlds is an entirely other context, in which they don't actually even "Cross" worlds, they just manifest their form in them, their true/main body still exists in the spiritual realms like the "Otherworld"[mystics] or Hell[demons].

and it particularly says "travel". Also, we already know Mai when in the subspace between dimensions, at which time she was a spiritual lifeform, said that despite having become so, she couldn't enter her brother's world because it was in another dimension, and dimensions have a dimensional wall separating them which you cannot pass through unless you're a true dragon level
this indicates that she should have been able to do so[cross worlds] had they been in the same dimension, as spiritual lifeforms can, just, not across dimensions, only worlds in the same dimension.

Anyway I still think Rimuru's statement is purely hyperbolical. It might be different if Rimuru was talking about how fast Dryad was that they can travel to the end of time & space, or how they possess special transportation method which they able to reach there, but no. Rimuru was, in that context, saying that Treyni was free to move anywhere now unbounded from their "tree" body, then further exaggerated that "even ot the end of time and space".

I too think normally it would be hyperbolic, but considering that spiritual lifeforms can cross worlds and thus go to different temporal dimensions, this becomes plausible instead of just being hyperbolic

I don't think its Immeasureable Speed nor Time Travel, but eh just put me to neutral.

Alright

 

[Jozaysmith?]

Fair enough. I didn't read the newest volume so I had no idea of that.


The other feats where they can travel to another dimension with different timeline/time axis? That has nothing to do with Immeasureable Speed.

Tbh that scans is really, really suspicious considering no context is provided. Doesn't "crossing the world" refers to about how Spiritual Lifeform can teleport/use portal to the human realm? I might be wrong since its been a long time since I read the books.

Anyway I still think Rimuru's statement is purely hyperbolical. It might be different if Rimuru was talking about how fast Dryad was that they can travel to the end of time & space, or how they possess special transportation method which they able to reach there, but no. Rimuru was, in that context, saying that Treyni was free to move anywhere now unbounded from their "tree" body, then further exaggerated that "even ot the end of time and space".


I don't think its Immeasureable Speed nor Time Travel, but eh just put me to neutral.

He won't listen

 

[Catpija]

He won't listen

I almost forgot why I stopped commenting on slime thread

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

You don't even have a relevant context in the first place a digital lifeform who is transcendental over SPL isn't immeasurable speed or some bs,

that has literally nothing to do with, here. Just because you have failed to achieve it in your thread doesn't make it impossible. And where did I ever use a scan related to digital lifeforms here? Also, this is TRAVEL SPEED, what you tried in your thread was ATTACK SPEED

existing outside a world isn't CM1 and PLEASE stop mis painting every single god damn quote or used sentences

It is, as existing outside that world means you wouldn't be effected if it is destroyed. There is no causality between worlds. If one is destroyed, someone in another world would not be affected in any way. Spiritual lifeforms can go to other worlds. Once they do, they won't be affected by the destruction of their original world.
To start with, they can retain their form at the end of space-time where their own world is destroyed to begin with.

Because rimuru said treyni can retain her form even at the end of time just means she can go anywhere without losing her form or connection to the main body and thats all

The whole point is because she can "move" to anywhere she want, even to the end of space and time.

If you want to still be stubborn then be my guest, talking to people who are like this is waste of Time and Space

there you go again with your toxic behavior.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

I almost forgot why I stopped commenting on slime thread

fr

 

[Jozaysmith?]

there you go again with your toxic behavior.

It was pun intendedintended
There's a reason for the Time and Space thingy

 

[Jozaysmith?]

This is a very rushed upgrade
You can chillax until Volume 21 is translated, they are other things to focus on, its your thread btw, do your thing
I doubt mods will have any input in this since its confusing as hell

I almost forgot why I stopped commenting on slime thread

Don't worry mine aren't complicated

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

I doubt mods will have any input in this since its confusing as hell

sure, we'll see about that

Don't worry mine aren't complicated

I know

 

[Jozaysmith?]

sure, we'll see about that

I know

Try and view yourself objectively and ask if anyone right now is reading alllat

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

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many have already. Just cuz they didn't comment doesn't mean no one read it
and if you're telling me to view myself seeing what I'll do, I'll read it whole, that's what I normally do with every thread I come across.

 

[Mizuki67]

I almost forgot why I stopped commenting on slime thread

I feel the same way.

 

[ELITE127]

seems good agreed

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

"Immeasurable travel speed that doesn't scale to combat speed" would simply be called Time Travel.

But the rest looks good

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

"Immeasurable travel speed that doesn't scale to combat speed" would simply be called Time Travel.

But the rest looks good

Oh. I thought since in this case its being done by movement rather than another ability [like through an item/weapon as exampled in the def page]
than, should it be clarified in their ability explanation instead? [that its done through movement]

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Even if it's done through movement; writers have often explained regular FTL travel does that despite having finite travel speed normally. Or even just "Running laps around the earth faster than it rotates" which is why it's still preferable to list it as "Time Travel through movement". AKM also voiced wanting to remove "Immeasurable via running through time" from various profiles that both me and Antvasima agreed with though Antvasima doesn't always remember full details from time to time.

 

[Huesito88]

Even if it's done through movement; writers have often explained regular FTL travel does that despite having finite travel speed normally. Or even just "Running laps around the earth faster than it rotates" which is why it's still preferable to list it as "Time Travel through movement". AKM also voiced wanting to remove "Immeasurable via running through time" from various profiles that both me and Antvasima agreed with though Antvasima doesn't always remember full details from time to time.

If that's the case then it's all good

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Even if it's done through movement; writers have often explained regular FTL travel does that despite having finite travel speed normally. Or even just "Running laps around the earth faster than it rotates" which is why it's still preferable to list it as "Time Travel through movement".

Well Spiritual Lifeforms cannot do even regular SoL travel

AKM also voiced wanting to remove "Immeasurable via running through time" from various profiles that both me and Antvasima agreed with though Antvasima doesn't always remember full details from time to time.

Oh, I see. Than I'll change the OP from Immeasurable speed -> Time travel via [explanation]
is that fine?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Well Spiritual Lifeforms cannot do even regular SoL travel

Oh, I see. Than I'll change the OP from Immeasurable speed -> Time travel via [explanation]
is that fine?

That works for me.