Unofficial Powers and Abilities Addition Thread 4

[Magi_Hussie]

@The God Of Procrastination Which Power Manipulation already fits this case, yes.

 

[ChemistKyle89]

@Magi ... further analysis (aka wikipedia) reveals you are correct about Premonition being a sub-type of Precognition. I'm used to how Charmed throws it all together under the umbrella of Premonition (I should've known better considering how much else they got wrong). According to wikipedia, they're all sub-types of ESP, which also includes Intuition and Telepathy (for some reason) as well.

Wikipedia also has a monstrous page of Methods of Divinatio that might be useful if we need to make a page for it...who knew there were so many types. Some of them could also be called Remote Viewing.

 

[Magi_Hussie]

@Chemist Usually some powers that are considered as sub-types under the main power have their own pages when having several different types of it.

Yeah, knowing that it make take a while to create those pages, it should be left on the list of accepted powers to be added after the forum migration is over.

 

[ChemistKyle89]

Could the sub-types of ESP be mentioned (with their link) on the ESP page though? Precognition is listed as a possible use on the ESP page (though not linked). This could possibly be updated with the other sub-types that have and/or get pages and using their link.

For example Biological Manipulation lists Shape Change as a type.

 

[Magi_Hussie]

@Chemist Yes, that's how it's usually done with sub-type powers such as the sub-types found under Elemental Manipulation.

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

@The God Of Procrastination Which Power Manipulation already fits this case, yes.

The sub-types will stay, of course.

Also, power bestowal should have two types, one where they grant powers out of their own capabilities (thus losing them), and one where they create new abilities for the target.

 

[Magi_Hussie]

@The God Of Procrastination Well actually, Power Bestowal only bestows abilities you already have for the 2nd thing you said, otherwise that's Power Creation in general.

It's like when you have an item and when you're trying to give the same item to someone else, the item you gave to them wouldn't be any different from the one you used to have before.

 

[Thelastmlg]

@Thelastmlg Paradox Defiance is basically a power that allows you to ignore/be immune to specific types of paradoxes rather than naturally having immunity to those paradoxes like Paradox Existence would do.

So it just type 1 acausality with activation? Sounds unnecessary, literally limited acausality or acausality via x power.

 

[Magi_Hussie]

@Thelastmlg That's just a part of it and it isn't a limited Acausality since it can defy all known forms of paradoxes.

Paradoxes that has to do with time, casuality, fate, erasure, events, logic and physical laws can be defied when using this power and grants the user immunity to them.

 

[Blahblah9755]

Acausality Type 1 is just dealing with the grandfather paradox, there are a lot more paradoxes out there that would be fairly interesting if weaponized.

 

[Agnaa]

Paradoxes that has to do with time, casuality, fate, erasure, events, logic and physical laws can be defied when using this power and grants the user immunity to them.

Those would be resistance to (insert power here). Being able to defy all paradoxes sounds too NLF in most cases, and too niche in any remaining cases.

 

[Magi_Hussie]

@Blah Yeah, exactly why it's just one thing out of the many from Acausality and other powers that you can get with Paradox Defiance.

@Agnaa Ik that, only some specific characters can do that while others can only get resistance to specific ones/most but not all of them.

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

Wouldn't it just be Transduality?

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

@The God Of Procrastination Well actually, Power Bestowal only bestows abilities you already have for the 2nd thing you said, otherwise that's Power Creation in general.

It's like when you have an item and when you're trying to give the same item to someone else, the item you gave to them wouldn't be any different from the one you used to have before.

It could still be listed as power bestowal (since it does bestow powers upon the target), but it should be listed whether the powers are new or not.

 

[Magi_Hussie]

@The God Of Procrastination Transduality involves being above dualities, it has nothing to do with Paradox Defiance.

Power Bestowal is giving your powers to others, Paradox Defiance is giving your yourself immunities (which doesn't involve powers) to paradoxes (which that's the basic way to understand it).

 

[Udlmaster]

@The God Of Procrastination Transduality involves being above dualities, it has nothing to do with Paradox Defiance.
Power Bestowal is giving your powers to others, Paradox Defiance is giving your yourself immunities (which doesn't involve powers) to paradoxes (which that's the basic way to understand it).

It could in a way.

For example, Transdualism will mean you're either both inside and outside, everywhere and nowhere or you're none of them at once, or maybe a third thing.

It would be paradoxical to not be inside or outside everything.

 

[Magi_Hussie]

@Udlmaster Transduality would already transcend the dualities and as for Paradox Defiance, its depends on the character in general because not all of them can do that but it is possible.

 

[Foxthefox1000]

Question: What would blacking out in a fight against an entire army and running on pure instinct to the point you far extend your physical limits but are still able to function be?

 

[Thelastmlg]

ultra instinct

A combination of instinctive reaction and statistic amplication/empowerement

 

[Magi_Hussie]

@Foxthefox The answer to that would most likely be Fighting Spirit.

 

[Magi_Hussie]

An easier way to describe is that Fighting Spirit is based on willpower & ambition (a desire for power/success/persistence or usually just all of them) which can be triggered from instinctive reactions alone.

Any Empowerment or Amplification you get from that is a bonus.

 

[Agnaa]

Question: What would blacking out in a fight against an entire army and running on pure instinct to the point you far extend your physical limits but are still able to function be?

Instinctive Reaction and maybe some sort of Berserk Mode.

 

[Foxthefox1000]

But in my example the person who performs the feat can't think until much later on when he "comes to" and finds himself outside castle gates. Is it still instinctive reaction despite him mentally blacking out and not being able to think while fighting?

 

[Agnaa]

I'd think so, yeah. He's reacting from his instincts instead of planned thoughts.

 

[Foxthefox1000]

I... Dunno. From the context of the story, he fights amped fodder swarm after swarm, says it eventually got to him after a while, and then he blacked out during the fighting and eventually became aware of his surroundings again by the time he reached the front gates.

In real-life, humans are also capable of blacking out during fights, but it comes from our minds retreating into an insticntual survival mode that makes us enter a state of adrenaline rush IIRC. Does this mean humans can undergo instinctive reaction when in peril?

 

[Agnaa]

Oh, I thought you literally meant that he fell asleep but kept fighting.

If he just forgot it, it'd probably just be Berserk Mode.

 

[Foxthefox1000]

Okay. Good to know

 

[Magi_Hussie]

@Foxthefox Like what @Agnaa said, it would be Berserk Mode if your state of mind does something like that.

 

[Thelastmlg]

Could we get a order manipulation page? we got chaos manipulation and "benevolent" powers exist here.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

law manipulation should cover the order hax.

 

[Magi_Hussie]

@Oliver Law Manipulation wouldn't exactly cover that actually, Order Manipulation is already it's own ability.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

well it all depends on the context you can give order to the creation by imposing laws and concepts

 

[Magi_Hussie]

@Oliver Yeah but then again, controlling order to an degree that it even allows you have a indirect/direct affect on laws and concepts just gives it more reasons why it is its own ability.

 

[Blahblah9755]

Any power ca be achieved with law and concept manipulation, but that doesn't mean every case of it is covered by the two. If order manipulation can do things that aren't heavily overlapped with other powers or there are enough/notable cases where abilities are achieved primarily with order as the base mechanism, then it makes sense to have it as a power (especially since we already have its opposite.

 

[Thelastmlg]

Any power ca be achieved with law and concept manipulation, but that doesn't mean every case of it is covered by the two. If order manipulation can do things that aren't heavily overlapped with other powers or there are enough/notable cases where abilities are achieved primarily with order as the base mechanism, then it makes sense to have it as a power (especially since we already have its opposite).

Yeah, especially reality warping and conceptual manipulation since they are baeically the reason for stuff to happen.

 

[Foxthefox1000]

Would managing to keep up with a person who has Accelerated Development and Reactive Power Level grant you the same ability? Or would that just be good adaptability, i.e. skill?

 

[Thelastmlg]

Would managing to keep up with a person who has Accelerated Development and Reactive Power Level grant you the same ability? Or would that just be good adaptability, i.e. skill?

Depends on HOW you keep up with them.

If they overwhelm you in all stats and continue to grow, at best skill could help you if the speed gap isn't that big.

If you can keep trading blows with them, you might just be WAY stronger than they were before adapting.

It depends on context.

 

[Foxthefox1000]

What would the ability to appear invisible to a camera be? Like, they can physically be in front of a broadcast streaming images live yet all you can see is their shadow on the ground? Similarly, in another broadcast their entire body is obscured and looks like a silhouette as well, seemingly able to control how they appear to a camera?

 

[Thelastmlg]

What would the ability to appear invisible to a camera be? Like, they can physically be in front of a broadcast streaming images live yet all you can see is their shadow on the ground? Similarly, in another broadcast their entire body is obscured and looks like a silhouette as well, seemingly able to control how they appear to a camera?

sounds like limited invisibility.

 

[Blahblah9755]

Probably Limited Invisibility,Perception Manipulation, or Technology Manipulation depending on how it's described.