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Undertale Yellow Discussion Thread

Clover is 30 pixels tall and Frisk is 29 pixels tall. I'm pretty sure the calcs would be slightly higher since they account for 1 pixel extra for Clover's height when only 29 of the pixels are their true height since that's how tall Frisk's sprite is.
 
Psychomaster35 said:
Clover is 30 pixels tall and Frisk is 29 pixels tall. I'm pretty sure the calcs would be slightly higher since they account for 1 pixel extra for Clover's height when only 29 of the pixels are their true height since that's how tall Frisk's sprite is.
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Would Clover be 141.7 cm tall then?

(30/29) x 137 = 141.724137931

That would make their soul 43 cm.

(21/69) x 141.724137931 = 43.1334332833
 
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I'mma recalc the meteor right here:

(100/33)*43.1334332833 = 130.707373586 cm or 1.30707373586 m

Radius = 1.30707373586 / 2 = 0.65353686793

Volume = (4 / 3)×π×0.653536867933 = 1.1692271372813 m^3

Density is 3 g/cm

Mass = 1.1692271372813 x 3 = 3507.68141184 kg

Velocity = 2000 m/s

KE = 7015362823.68 J = 1.676711955946463 tons of TNT

Pretty sure this is still 8-C.
 
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Blunt_Claw said:
I'mma recalc the meteor right here:

(100/33)*43.1334332833 = 130.707373586 cm or 1.30707373586 m

Radius = 1.30707373586 / 2 = 0.65353686793

Volume = (4 / 3)×π×0.653536867933 = 1.1692271372813 m^3

Density is 3 g/cm

Mass = 1.1692271372813 x 3 = 3507.68141184 kg

Velocity = 2000 m/s

KE = 7015362823.68 J = 1.676711955946463 tons of TNT

Pretty sure this is still 8-C.
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thank you. Changed it
 
Shouldn’t the Speed ratings for Shooter Clover, Kitsune Ceroba and Zenith Martlet be Hypersonic from Asgore scaling? Also iirc Martlet’s meteors were calced at that speed.
 
Ghengiroo115 said:
Shouldn’t the Speed ratings for Shooter Clover, Kitsune Ceroba and Zenith Martlet be Hypersonic from Asgore scaling? Also iirc Martlet’s meteors were calced at that speed.
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Shooter Clover, Masked Ceroba and Zenith Martlet have palceholder ratings since we haven't 100% settled on Asgore scaling yet.
Martlet's meteors are at 2000 m/s because that's the minimum speed of a meteor as accepted by the wiki (or something like that). I guess we could calc the speed of Clover's SOUL compared to the meteors at some point.
 
Blunt_Claw said:
Shooter Clover, Masked Ceroba and Zenith Martlet have palceholder ratings since we haven't 100% settled on Asgore scaling yet.
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Ah, got it. I feel like the Geno characters are a given but yeah we need to settle on the Pacifist ones.

Blunt_Claw said:
Martlet's meteors are at 2000 m/s because that's the minimum speed of a meteor as accepted by the wiki (or something like that). I guess we could calc the speed of Clover's SOUL compared to the meteors at some point.
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I remember the Soul moving at comparable speeds to the meteor, but I was wrong about the lightning bolt before so best to calc it just in case the difference is severe enough.

Regardless Martlet would be Hypersonic since her meteors are one of her slower attacks. Clover should also at the very least have Hypersonic reactions since the main gameplay loop is using the dash on time to avoid Martlet’s attacks (kinda like a reverse Sans now that I think about it, but I digress).

Also speaking of which, should the dash get calced or nah? Not me asking as if I know anything about calcs
 
I'm too busy to do research for Clover's P&A. I would like it if someone else put the abilities on the profile and then I could clean up the formatting.
 
Do you all remember when Starlo attacked Clover with the sound waves of a giant bell? I'm sensing a calc there.
 
I'm gonna have to make pre-wild revolver and post-wild revolver into seperate keys won't I?
Should we call them early game and late game?
 
Blunt_Claw said:
Meteor speed calc.
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It keeps surprising me how big the difference between Clover's speed and the attack's speed actually makes lol.

Should Clover's beam and any of Martlet's other attacks scale, or would it just be the meteor?
 
Ghengiroo115 said:
It keeps surprising me how big the difference between Clover's speed and the attack's speed actually makes lol.

Should Clover's beam and any of Martlet's other attacks scale, or would it just be the meteor?
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I don't think any of Martlet's other attacks are at 2000 m/s.
Clover's laser travels the entire screen in a single frame, it could be a genuine laser and therefore lightspeed.
I should also calc the shooter form's dash speed compared to it's normal speed.
 
Blunt_Claw said:
I don't think any of Martlet's other attacks are at 2000 m/s.
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I’m pretty sure her feathers are, but they’re aimdodge-able like the meteor. I think the main attack to check would be her talons since that’s both a purely physical move and iirc comes out too quick for it to be aimdodged. Could be a neat upgrade for both Clover and Martlet depending on how fast it is.

Blunt_Claw said:
Clover's laser travels the entire screen in a single frame, it could be a genuine laser and therefore lightspeed.
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I’m not sure on the standards of lasers on the wiki, but it being a genuine laser makes sense to me.
 
what profiles are currently being worked on/done?

after i get done getting done with Underswap Thanatos, i might dip my toes into making profiles for UT:Yellow.
 
Guess I'll note that I don't really agree with how LS is scaled. Clover doesn't have any feats of surpassing Dunebug physically (because gun) and they asked for Flowey's help to get past the gate.
 
I guess I'll talk since I've been noticed.
Diamond_Drone said:
Guess I'll note that I don't really agree with how LS is scaled. Clover doesn't have any feats of surpassing Dunebug physically (because gun)
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True, but the damage Clover deals with their gun is determined by their own attack stat, so their physical stats should scale to whatever they can accomplish with their gun (Or downscale since they most likely can't take advantage of the ammunitions by punching)
and they asked for Flowey's help to get past the gate.
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That anti feat would probably also contradict the High 8-C rating. Clover also didn't have any way to push down the door by themselves.
CanineAnnoyer said:
You should use this feat for Genocide Clover and Zenith Marlet. It is still 8-C, but it has a significantly higher AP than the Axis one.
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I was going to do my own version of that calc but then I saw this attack. The supposedly mach 5 meteor turns around due to gravity, I think it's just a hot rock (Maybe even a swelterstone)
 
Profile pretty good,

Don't think the "whose check stats put her below Asgore" really works tho, since I'm pretty sure UTY uses in-game stats instead of UT's like in-verse ones, plus that would put Zenith Martlet below both Mettaton and Undyne, which wouldn't make much sense for "The zenith of Monsterkind."
Edit: UT Froggit Check is ATK 4 and DEF 5, UTY Froggit Check is ATK 3 and DEF 2, so yeah
 
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Adem_Warlock69 said:
Don't think "whose check stats put her below Asgore" really works, since I'm pretty sure UTY uses in-game stats instead of UT's like in-verse ones, plus that would put Zenith Martlet below both Mettaton and Undyne, which wouldn't make much sense for "The zenith of Monsterkind."
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I don't know why the UTY Check stats wouldn't be the in-verse ones. They having a gameplay function only means they serve two purposes at once.
It should also be mentioned they serve a narrative purpose: One of UTY's main plot points is the fact that regular Undertale was too mush for Clover to handle, which is reinforced all of the check stats outside of Zenith Martlet making the monsters you fight weaker than Papyrus.
 
Rodri_Dante said:
I don't know why the UTY Check stats wouldn't be the in-verse ones. They having a gameplay function only means they serve two purposes at once.
It should also be mentioned they serve a narrative purpose: One of UTY's main plot points is the fact that regular Undertale was too mush for Clover to handle, which is reinforced all of the check stats outside of Zenith Martlet making the monsters you fight weaker than Papyrus.
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Mostly iffy about the UTY Checks cause of Axis getting stronger in Genocide for no apparent reason, but we won't be able to cross scale em with UT's cause of this,
UT Froggit Check is ATK 4 and DEF 5, UTY Froggit Check is ATK 3 and DEF 2, so yeah
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Adem_Warlock69 said:
Mostly iffy about the UTY Checks cause of Axis getting stronger in Genocide for no apparent reason
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There is a reason.
Chujin says that Axis used more force than intended against Integrity, blaming it to him overshooting variables.

Axis getting higher stats happens after he scans Clover in geno, finds the situation "familiar" and proceeds to diagnose them as a level 10 threat. The implication is that Axis varies in strenght depending on the threat level of who he's facing, and that he mistakenly diagnosed Integrity as a level 10 threat.
UT Froggit Check is ATK 4 and DEF 5, UTY Froggit Check is ATK 3 and DEF 2, so yeah
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Does every Froggit have to be exactly as strong as each other? If it was a massive stat disparity like "ATK 5 million in UT, ATK -4 in UTY" I would get the skepticism, but is looks like a small discrepancy in what otherwise seems to be a bunch of stats intentionally chosen to reinforce one of the most plot relevant choices Flowey makes.
 
Rodri_"Dante" said:
There is a reason.
Chujin says that Axis used more force than intended against Integrity, blaming it to him overshooting variables.

Axis getting higher stats happens after he scans Clover in geno, finds the situation "familiar" and proceeds to diagnose them as a level 10 threat. The implication is that Axis varies in strenght depending on the threat level of who he's facing, and that he mistakenly diagnosed Integrity as a level 10 threat.
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Fair nuff,
Does every Froggit have to be exactly as strong as each other? If it was a massive stat disparity like "ATK 5 million in UT, ATK -4 in UTY" I would get the skepticism, but is looks like a small discrepancy in what otherwise seems to be a bunch of stats intentionally chosen to reinforce one of the most plot relevant choices Flowey makes.
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Every Froggit in UT has the exact same stats? Why would Clover encounter one strangely weak Froggit that seemingly just disappeared when Frisk fell? I get the narrative point, but it gets contradicted by Flowey considering the 15 ATK Ceroba somewhat on-par with Asgore (Literally every single Waterfall Monster would be stronger than her and Clover reached Hotland without Flowey's help before) and the "Zenith of Monsterkind" being weaker than every Core Mercenary?
 
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