In the article for Frisk Undertale
The calculation for their speed with minimal and great determination appears to come from two feats Dodging meteors (that are moving fast enough to catch fire), and Dodging electricity. This is also the feats many characters such as Asgore scale off of for speed.
I wanted to ask the question, why is it that it’s assumed that these are actual meteors and electricity but not bullets shaped like those items?
My reasons for believing this are as follows
1. If we are to assume those are just hypersonic attacks slowed down so we can dodge them as a game mechanic then we are also to assume that the undertale universe has hypersonic flies, butterflies, spiders, skateboards, and that things like carrots and cereal fall at speeds comparable to supersonic. Not to mention this would mean every single human who did battle with the monster likely had these speeds as well (or else I highly doubt they’d be able to dodge actual meteors). If we are to assume the bullets are the actual objects they look like, then just about every single thing in the undertale universe scales to a speed around supersonic, and that the laws of physics are significantly altered so that items can fall at súper song speeds.
2. Reasons for me believing their bullets: In the game the projectiles used by the monsters in battle mode are referred to as bullets. This line from the library in Snowden implies that these bullets are a way for monsters to creatively express themselves, by for example the naming patterns on birthday cards. As well as showing all monsters are gifted with the ability to create these bullets
Flowey himself refers to them as bullets if you avoid his pellets the first few times.
My interpretation is, that everything that damages us in the game isn’t their real-life counterpart but instead, something the game calls “bullets”. They are the same object only differing in size shape and speed. With more skilled monsters creating patterns that are faster and harder to dodge.
Other monsters use it as a form of creative expression. It’s tradition to create birthday cards with bullets, of course, The two lover dogs from Snowden also use it to express their love for one another, and Mettaton EX uses disco balls and extra legs to create a more entertaining show
Hell, it probably doesn’t even need an explanation, it's probably just intended as a way to make fighting each monster unique.
To claim that the lightning and meteors from Vulkins and Knight Knights attack move as fast as their real-life counterparts you would need to claim that not only every organism but the rules of the Undertale universe themself are operating at speeds similar to supersonic levels.
I think it seems much more logical to assume that butterfly-shaped bullets move at similar speeds as electricity-shaped bullets, than that the butterflies of undertale can reach speeds as fast as lightning.
As such I think that the speed of undertale characters should be revised.
Note: I am an extremely inexperienced user, please let me know if there was a rule or precedent I am invalidating
The calculation for their speed with minimal and great determination appears to come from two feats Dodging meteors (that are moving fast enough to catch fire), and Dodging electricity. This is also the feats many characters such as Asgore scale off of for speed.
I wanted to ask the question, why is it that it’s assumed that these are actual meteors and electricity but not bullets shaped like those items?
My reasons for believing this are as follows
1. If we are to assume those are just hypersonic attacks slowed down so we can dodge them as a game mechanic then we are also to assume that the undertale universe has hypersonic flies, butterflies, spiders, skateboards, and that things like carrots and cereal fall at speeds comparable to supersonic. Not to mention this would mean every single human who did battle with the monster likely had these speeds as well (or else I highly doubt they’d be able to dodge actual meteors). If we are to assume the bullets are the actual objects they look like, then just about every single thing in the undertale universe scales to a speed around supersonic, and that the laws of physics are significantly altered so that items can fall at súper song speeds.
2. Reasons for me believing their bullets: In the game the projectiles used by the monsters in battle mode are referred to as bullets. This line from the library in Snowden implies that these bullets are a way for monsters to creatively express themselves, by for example the naming patterns on birthday cards. As well as showing all monsters are gifted with the ability to create these bullets
Flowey himself refers to them as bullets if you avoid his pellets the first few times.
My interpretation is, that everything that damages us in the game isn’t their real-life counterpart but instead, something the game calls “bullets”. They are the same object only differing in size shape and speed. With more skilled monsters creating patterns that are faster and harder to dodge.
Other monsters use it as a form of creative expression. It’s tradition to create birthday cards with bullets, of course, The two lover dogs from Snowden also use it to express their love for one another, and Mettaton EX uses disco balls and extra legs to create a more entertaining show
Hell, it probably doesn’t even need an explanation, it's probably just intended as a way to make fighting each monster unique.
To claim that the lightning and meteors from Vulkins and Knight Knights attack move as fast as their real-life counterparts you would need to claim that not only every organism but the rules of the Undertale universe themself are operating at speeds similar to supersonic levels.
I think it seems much more logical to assume that butterfly-shaped bullets move at similar speeds as electricity-shaped bullets, than that the butterflies of undertale can reach speeds as fast as lightning.
As such I think that the speed of undertale characters should be revised.
Note: I am an extremely inexperienced user, please let me know if there was a rule or precedent I am invalidating
