Undertale ( Sans, Undyne, Mettaton NEO, etc. ) Revision

[Juggerton]

But Undyne Durability is At least Town level, likely far higher.

So the "likely far higher" should be added
Well beside that's the thread is done right?

I don't think it should be added.Metatton is basically weaker than Undyne due to no Dt.Consider it or not,I am too tired to debate rn


Other than that,it's done xS

 

[Antvasima]

What exactly should the durability value for Mettaton NEO say instead?

 

[Anonimoe7875]

@Antvasima

"Durability: Small Town level to Town level, likely far higher (Comparable to monster such Undyne and Papyrus)"

@Juggerton

Azathoth arealdy agreed to scale Mettaton NEO dura to Undyne and Papyrus and Undyne don't need Determination to make her dura Town level

 

[Dark649]

No, it should be at least Town level, likely far higher (Comparable to monster such Undyne)

 

[Anonimoe7875]

@Dark

Low to mid boss would be like Papyrus to Undyne levels of durability, btw.

 

[Antvasima]

Why would the final boss form have lower durability than the preceding one?

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Because NEO is an extreme glass cannon. 10 DEF against 90 ATK

 

[Juggerton]

Why would the final boss form have lower durability than the preceding one?

Ut logic


I don't know xD,he gained just more handsomeness

 

[Anonimoe7875]

It's 9 DEF

 

[Juggerton]

It's 9 DEF

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Anyway,I think this should be closed.Anything else yet to be revised?

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Perhaps it is best if Dark649 handles the edits?

 

[Dark649]

Because NEO is an extreme glass cannon. 9 DEF against 90 ATK

If we go with this then, he has lower durability than Small Town level because Papyrus and Undyne have 20 DEF in the neutral run.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

I don't think we scale DEF like we scale ATK. The point is just that NEO is a glass cannon and shouldn't have dura anywhere close to his AP (Or his previous' form defense, most likely)

 

[Anonimoe7875]

DEF isn't a good way to scale UT characters unless you want God Flowey with wall level dura

 

[AidenBrooks999]

I don't think we scale DEF like we scale ATK. The point is just that NEO is a glass cannon and shouldn't have dura anywhere close to his AP (Or his previous' form defense, most likely)

I think that DEF is just a extra to your natural defenses.


Since Undyne, when she challenges you on her house, her DEF is 0, but her ATK is the same as it is in the battle, where her DEF is 50 with the armor

 

[Anonimoe7875]

Undyne with armor - 20 DEF

Undyne without armor - 21 DEF

 

[Antvasima]

So, what durability statistics should we change NEO to?

 

[Anderson2003]

Change it to "At least Small Town level, likely far higher". Between Papyrus and Undyne.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. What do the rest of you think?

 

[Dark649]

I agree with Anderson.

 

[Antvasima]

@Magi RobloxG

Please stop causing disturbances in discussion threads. Thank you. The staff does not have the time to constantly deal with it.

 

[Anderson2003]

Unless anyone has any other objection, I say this thread is pretty much done.

 

[Anonimoe7875]

Is this still open?

 

[Anderson2003]

Yep, should def be closed.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Yep, should def be closed.

You can close it yourself. Hit edit in the bottom corner of the post.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

That removes the thread actually. Which isn't so good for finding the thread again if you need to show someone a point from it. Only an admin (or higher) or discussion moderator can close a thread, which means it's still around