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Yes, another Undertale boost thread. Shush.
So, as many may knows, Human SOULs in Undertale are vastly powerful, but to what degree, is unknown. Also, a human soul that is still living must becomes strong to really be at its maximum. However, a soul not living anymore and absorbed by a monster are vastly more powerful than a base living Human SOUL.
We can know how powerful the boost a human soul gives.
When Asriel absorbs all the Monster's SOULs, he gain an infinite boost in power compared to Photoshop Flowey. This immense boost was only due to the monster SOULs. Yet, as described by game lore, a single human soul can match all the monster SOULs. A strong enough SOUL that is. However, as proven before, a monster can get much higher power by extracting power from the SOUL than a weak Human SOUL can get alone. This power seems comparable to all the monster SOULs, as proven by Asriel himself.
So, that would mean that the Human SOULs gives boosts in power similar to the Monster SOULs, which is infinite. This would give the Human SOULs a potential infinite power (That a human can take into by making it stronger, or a monster via absorbing it). And Remember this is a boost-like power for monsters. Their own power will increase by infinity once they take one.
So, what does that imply for the tiering of certains characters?
Flowey got 6 beautiful SOULs with him. That's 6 times infinity on him. If we puts it into our Dimensional system, this would make Flowey 9 dimensional, which is Complex Multiversal Level.
Asriel got the equivalent of a 7th SOUL, and got boosted by infinity, so 10 Dimensional, which is High Complex Multiversal Level.
The Annoying Dog is where it becomes a bit more complex. Since the AD views all of Undertale as fiction, it would make sense for him to be one infinity higher, so 11 dimensional. However, the AD created all of Undertale, including each human SOULs, and each of them acts as an infinite boost. Unlike Chara and Flowey, who seemed to just rewinds time to create the world back, the AD just created it out of scratch, on his own.
Unless we want to believe the AD can create something stronger than himself, he would probably be at least on part with all the Human SOULs Combined, which would be well into Hyperversal.
Yes, I know that you don't HAVE to be as strong or stronger than your creating, humans are proof of that. However, this isn't the same. Scientific creations doesn't create anything, they just harness an already existing power and uses it. However, the AD made everything himself. He couldn't create something that harness a higher power, since he created everything there. He probably created the very concept of SOUL. And since these things actually boosts power instead of just being infinite power thing, the AD should be more powerful than the total, unless you want to think he could boosts himself an unlimited amount of time. Thus, his power should be equal to the number of human SOULs. Even if you only do a single timeline, there should at least be 7 billions of them, since it is based on our world. So, 7 billion dimensional. Hyperversal Dog.
Chara doesn't really get boosted by this, at first. They are already a human soul, as they have stolen Frisk's. Yet at the very end of Genocide, they takes the player soul's too, which should be human. Thus, Chara probably would have 2 souls at the end of Genocide, in their conceptual form. It is unlikely to scales to Undying and Sans, as the battle with them isn't any different than before, with only 1 soul, so it is possible that Chara only uses on to do it. So 2 SOULs equal High Multiversal+.
If Chara does have 2 SOULs, it scales to Gaster, as he manages to erases Chara if you name them "Gaster", although only for some time, as the Player probably brings them back when they come back.
That's, uh, a pretty huge boost. So, yeah.
So, as many may knows, Human SOULs in Undertale are vastly powerful, but to what degree, is unknown. Also, a human soul that is still living must becomes strong to really be at its maximum. However, a soul not living anymore and absorbed by a monster are vastly more powerful than a base living Human SOUL.
We can know how powerful the boost a human soul gives.
When Asriel absorbs all the Monster's SOULs, he gain an infinite boost in power compared to Photoshop Flowey. This immense boost was only due to the monster SOULs. Yet, as described by game lore, a single human soul can match all the monster SOULs. A strong enough SOUL that is. However, as proven before, a monster can get much higher power by extracting power from the SOUL than a weak Human SOUL can get alone. This power seems comparable to all the monster SOULs, as proven by Asriel himself.
So, that would mean that the Human SOULs gives boosts in power similar to the Monster SOULs, which is infinite. This would give the Human SOULs a potential infinite power (That a human can take into by making it stronger, or a monster via absorbing it). And Remember this is a boost-like power for monsters. Their own power will increase by infinity once they take one.
So, what does that imply for the tiering of certains characters?
Flowey got 6 beautiful SOULs with him. That's 6 times infinity on him. If we puts it into our Dimensional system, this would make Flowey 9 dimensional, which is Complex Multiversal Level.
Asriel got the equivalent of a 7th SOUL, and got boosted by infinity, so 10 Dimensional, which is High Complex Multiversal Level.
The Annoying Dog is where it becomes a bit more complex. Since the AD views all of Undertale as fiction, it would make sense for him to be one infinity higher, so 11 dimensional. However, the AD created all of Undertale, including each human SOULs, and each of them acts as an infinite boost. Unlike Chara and Flowey, who seemed to just rewinds time to create the world back, the AD just created it out of scratch, on his own.
Unless we want to believe the AD can create something stronger than himself, he would probably be at least on part with all the Human SOULs Combined, which would be well into Hyperversal.
Yes, I know that you don't HAVE to be as strong or stronger than your creating, humans are proof of that. However, this isn't the same. Scientific creations doesn't create anything, they just harness an already existing power and uses it. However, the AD made everything himself. He couldn't create something that harness a higher power, since he created everything there. He probably created the very concept of SOUL. And since these things actually boosts power instead of just being infinite power thing, the AD should be more powerful than the total, unless you want to think he could boosts himself an unlimited amount of time. Thus, his power should be equal to the number of human SOULs. Even if you only do a single timeline, there should at least be 7 billions of them, since it is based on our world. So, 7 billion dimensional. Hyperversal Dog.
Chara doesn't really get boosted by this, at first. They are already a human soul, as they have stolen Frisk's. Yet at the very end of Genocide, they takes the player soul's too, which should be human. Thus, Chara probably would have 2 souls at the end of Genocide, in their conceptual form. It is unlikely to scales to Undying and Sans, as the battle with them isn't any different than before, with only 1 soul, so it is possible that Chara only uses on to do it. So 2 SOULs equal High Multiversal+.
If Chara does have 2 SOULs, it scales to Gaster, as he manages to erases Chara if you name them "Gaster", although only for some time, as the Player probably brings them back when they come back.
That's, uh, a pretty huge boost. So, yeah.
