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Oh my, Mashle is also difficult. Worse is when both left at the same time lmao.
Maybe, MAYBE, I can reread the work and pick up the feats of speed.
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Undead Unluck Discussion Thread
Maybe, MAYBE, I can reread the work and pick up the feats of speed.
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Arkenis
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The staff thing is like a clear speed feat that others can scale to honestly. The staff travels in space and then others scale to. Nothing would imply Shen slows it down or has control over the speed. I've posted before that what he does have control over is the size width and how long it can be but never mentions something as important as speed. So I think the verse is accurately mhs reaction and combat with Top being mhs in travel speed or rel iirc.
Now other speed feats that can get calced are these.
Now other speed feats that can get calced are these.
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Wouldn't the RIP feat be easy to calculate, just find the distance traveled in some sort of short timeframe?The staff thing is like a clear speed feat that others can scale to honestly. The staff travels in space and then others scale to. Nothing would imply Shen slows it down or has control over the speed. I've posted before that what he does have control over is the size width and how long it can be but never mentions something as important as speed. So I think the verse is accurately mhs reaction and combat with Top being mhs in travel speed or rel iirc.
Now other speed feats that can get calced are these.
Arkenis
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Just to bring up something else regarding the Juiz splitting a bullet feat, she is easily capable of reacting to Billys bullets from an even closer distance than what she did when billy and her fought alone. So Tella is just very impressed by her deflecting it with a sword rather than the reaction speed itself. Another thing is that this feat is more off guard for her since it happens randomly rather than in a combat scenario.
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Well that's certainly neat
Just to bring up something else regarding the Juiz splitting a bullet feat, she is easily capable of reacting to Billys bullets from an even closer distance than what she did when billy and her fought alone. So Tella is just very impressed by her deflecting it with a sword rather than the reaction speed itself. Another thing is that this feat is more off guard for her since it happens randomly rather than in a combat scenario.
Though in the end, has anything in the latest chapters bring anything new to the ap department?
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So tier 8/7 is a constant for our main characters, huh
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And Victor's deadline, or whatever it was called, right?
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yeah. idk how a feat like that is calced but cutting through most of a city's buildings and flinging them into the air slightly is likely in the town level range and he cut some clouds in half too. ig if that feat ends up being town level then Andy could probably scale to it.
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Sure, it'd be nice to see. Hopefully town level is able to he a reality. I could see some really nice matchups.
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Tier: 8-A, higher with Repair Boost | 8-A, higher after he's Developed, higher with Repair Boost, far higher with Vortex Bullet | 8-A, far higher as Victor
Name: Andy, Victor, Victhor, Deady Dearest, Undead, Zombie
Origin: Undead Unluck
Gender: Male
Age: Physically 20, Millions of years old
Classification: Human, Negator
Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Master of Sword Arts, Multiple Souls (Andy and Victor are two different people and souls within Andy) Bodily Weaponry, Body Control, Damage Boost, Limited Cloth Manipulation, Immortality (Type 1, 2, and 3: Andy's Undead prevents him from aging and keeps him in his mid 20's. Andy can live as just a head), Statistics Amplification, (Can increase his attack power and speed with repair boost), Blood Manipulation (Uses his blood as a projectile), Law Negation and Selective Regeneration (At least High-Mid; All negators either negate their own rule or negate the rule of others. Andy's Undead is the ability to negate any and everything that puts him near death granting him super regeneration. He is also able to control the regeneration's speed), Bone Manipulation (Can form his bones into blades and projectiles), Self-Sustenance (Type 1: Seemingly able to breathe in space), Limited Invulnerability (The indestructible sword is stated to be impervious to damage), Damage Reduction (Able to reduce and contain damage by regenerating), Preparation (Should be able to get weapons from the Unions supply of weapons), Density Manipulation (Able to increase the density of his bones and solidify his blood), Limited Sense Manipulation (Andy states pain feels different to him than others, to him pain is a bunch of static), Resistance to Extreme Cold and Radiation Manipulation (Wasn't effected being in space), Resistance to Analytical Prediction (Stated that She and people like Andy are able to penetrate Shen's Untruth)
Developed Andy
Bloody Arts (A unique form of fighting where Andy uses spurts of blood from his arms to enhance his attacks), Immortality (Type 8: As long as Andy's soul is alive he can continue to regenerate), Regeneration (Low-Godly; Can regenerate as long as his soul is still alive), Soul Manipulation (Able to directly move parts of his soul into detached parts of his body)
Surface Scaling, Limited Subjective Reality and Accelerated Development (Andy states "In the end, it's all a matter of how we perceive the rules. So long as we believe in that concept, our abilities will develop as much as we want" what this means for all Negators is that their own perception of their abilities use and limits can be developed which allowed Andy to develop his Undead ability. Victor also is stated that by consciously changing the interpretation of death allows him a multifaceted use of his regeneration), Astral Projection and Incorporeality (Can separate his soul from his body but is unable to interact with people physically), Resistance to Gravity Manipulation (Can resist gravity from Uma Gravity), Duplication (Able to create clones from his blood)
Victor
Duplication (He can create clones of himself from detached parts of his body), Taijutsu
@AnAverageUsername
Name: Andy, Victor, Victhor, Deady Dearest, Undead, Zombie
Origin: Undead Unluck
Gender: Male
Age: Physically 20, Millions of years old
Classification: Human, Negator
Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Master of Sword Arts, Multiple Souls (Andy and Victor are two different people and souls within Andy) Bodily Weaponry, Body Control, Damage Boost, Limited Cloth Manipulation, Immortality (Type 1, 2, and 3: Andy's Undead prevents him from aging and keeps him in his mid 20's. Andy can live as just a head), Statistics Amplification, (Can increase his attack power and speed with repair boost), Blood Manipulation (Uses his blood as a projectile), Law Negation and Selective Regeneration (At least High-Mid; All negators either negate their own rule or negate the rule of others. Andy's Undead is the ability to negate any and everything that puts him near death granting him super regeneration. He is also able to control the regeneration's speed), Bone Manipulation (Can form his bones into blades and projectiles), Self-Sustenance (Type 1: Seemingly able to breathe in space), Limited Invulnerability (The indestructible sword is stated to be impervious to damage), Damage Reduction (Able to reduce and contain damage by regenerating), Preparation (Should be able to get weapons from the Unions supply of weapons), Density Manipulation (Able to increase the density of his bones and solidify his blood), Limited Sense Manipulation (Andy states pain feels different to him than others, to him pain is a bunch of static), Resistance to Extreme Cold and Radiation Manipulation (Wasn't effected being in space), Resistance to Analytical Prediction (Stated that She and people like Andy are able to penetrate Shen's Untruth)
Developed Andy
Bloody Arts (A unique form of fighting where Andy uses spurts of blood from his arms to enhance his attacks), Immortality (Type 8: As long as Andy's soul is alive he can continue to regenerate), Regeneration (Low-Godly; Can regenerate as long as his soul is still alive), Soul Manipulation (Able to directly move parts of his soul into detached parts of his body)
Surface Scaling, Limited Subjective Reality and Accelerated Development (Andy states "In the end, it's all a matter of how we perceive the rules. So long as we believe in that concept, our abilities will develop as much as we want" what this means for all Negators is that their own perception of their abilities use and limits can be developed which allowed Andy to develop his Undead ability. Victor also is stated that by consciously changing the interpretation of death allows him a multifaceted use of his regeneration), Astral Projection and Incorporeality (Can separate his soul from his body but is unable to interact with people physically), Resistance to Gravity Manipulation (Can resist gravity from Uma Gravity), Duplication (Able to create clones from his blood)
Victor
Duplication (He can create clones of himself from detached parts of his body), Taijutsu
@AnAverageUsername
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Wow, I'm suprised this isnt a profile yet. I'm guessing it's because of speed problems?
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Oof, problem with that. I really dont know how to connect my profile here to fandom. Or use sandboxes. I really have no idea how to use Fandom.
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you think you could help with some of these calcs?
I think the juiz one should just be done with the paneling of her face being how close the bullet is, considering Tella says it was done point blank and she does two swipes to react making it also combat.The staff thing is like a clear speed feat that others can scale to honestly. The staff travels in space and then others scale to. Nothing would imply Shen slows it down or has control over the speed. I've posted before that what he does have control over is the size width and how long it can be but never mentions something as important as speed. So I think the verse is accurately mhs reaction and combat with Top being mhs in travel speed or rel iirc.
Now other speed feats that can get calced are these.
Chikara is just a regular perception or activation of ability and everyone would scale to that.
And tbh Galaxy doing his lil explosion is mftl+ afaik and him flying is prob mhs
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Damn, I Forgot about this thread! But sure.
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As expected. It seems like UU wont get that much recognition and popularity until it gets an anime. And even then, with that first chapter...
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I Drop a lot of series because I have no time to read it's, I only Remember One Piece, OPM and Mashle tbh.
Arkenis
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Sandbox for a couple of Negators
Tell me what you think.
Tell me what you think.
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Most of them look great, but some of them don't look finished yet.
If only it was possible to publish these profiles.
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Just a justification for Subjective Reality and Accelerated Development
Subjective Reality and Accelerated Development (Andy states "In the end, it's all a matter of how we perceive the rules. So long as we believe in that concept, our abilities will develop as much as we want" what this means for all Negators is that their own perception of their ability's use and limits can be developed which allowed Andy to develop his Undead ability[8]. Victor also is stated that by consciously changing the interpretation of death allows him a multifaceted use of his regeneration. This is also something Billy says is "sound logic" meaning he too accepts this line of thinking[9])
Subjective Reality and Accelerated Development (Andy states "In the end, it's all a matter of how we perceive the rules. So long as we believe in that concept, our abilities will develop as much as we want" what this means for all Negators is that their own perception of their ability's use and limits can be developed which allowed Andy to develop his Undead ability[8]. Victor also is stated that by consciously changing the interpretation of death allows him a multifaceted use of his regeneration. This is also something Billy says is "sound logic" meaning he too accepts this line of thinking[9])
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We saw god appearing, and with all the characters we´ve seen so far I think we have enough info to make a page
Arkenis
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I don't wanna. id rather wait for the loop incase we have to go over something. and check https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Arkenis/sandboxforJuiz?so=search this to see some of the negators ive done sandboxes for
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Now they just need to be published
Arkenis
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https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Arkenis/sandboxforUU?so=search here a page for it. can I just make it or do I gotta ask or something
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You're the creator of it right? From what I've seen on the Mashle thread, you could probably post them without asking.
But I dont know much, so eh.
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Undead Unluck
Undead Unluck takes place in modern time and is centered around people who are called negators. The negators are humans who possess unique abilities that allow them to negate certain rules of the world. The series for the most part is about the Union, a group of Negators and humans who work...
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Arkenis
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Thought of more speed feats,
Andy's vortex bullet is able to reach the clouds in seconds of being shot, Victor reacts to it although greatly far from it (Supersonic)
Victor is able to whip his deadline across Shinjuku which is 18.23 km2 in seconds which would be in the hypersonic range (did a quick calc)
Andy's vortex bullet is able to reach the clouds in seconds of being shot, Victor reacts to it although greatly far from it (Supersonic)
Victor is able to whip his deadline across Shinjuku which is 18.23 km2 in seconds which would be in the hypersonic range (did a quick calc)
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That all sounds interesting
It would honestly be funny if there were feets from other characters that are just straight up faster than Top's max speed, when he's supposed to be the resident speedster
It would honestly be funny if there were feets from other characters that are just straight up faster than Top's max speed, when he's supposed to be the resident speedster
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