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I don't think the first two can work on a inorganic robot like Zombot Shadow, I guess hamon can work, however does it bypass regen of beings that aren't already weak to sunlight?
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i think noI don't think the first two can work on a inorganic robot like Zombot Shadow, I guess hamon can work, however does it bypass regen of beings that aren't already weak to sunlight?
Read the profile of Kars about ULFhowever does it bypass regen of beings that aren't already weak to sunlight?
Read the profile of Kars about ULF
It doesn't thenRegeneration Negation (High-Mid, but only against opponents weak to sunlight),
and kars will still uses hamon or whateverThen I guess Shadow would just keep regenerating then, he has limitless stamina
It's passive. It's not that they only used it twice, it's that every character they ended up interacting with resisted it, this was established as far back as Santana.Also the Pillar men rarely used absorption in character they did it like twice then just stopped using it in favor of using their respective modes
ye but it's useless nowIt's passive. It's not that they only used it twice, it's that every character they ended up interacting with resisted it, this was established as far back as Santana.
Clothes are not the same as a being made of metal, since a cyborg could touch Kars and not be absorbed, unless you can explain that part outMark? It isn't like clothes are entirely natural. There does exist synthetic material, and sometimes even things like metal or plastic on like zippers or buttons or whatever.
Clothes are not the same as a being made of metal, since a cyborg could touch Kars and not be absorbed, unless you can explain that part out
but wouldn't Shadow just regen then?
Scan pls?No but a giant metal cross on said clothes that got absorbed, is indeed metal.
This feels like an assumption, and assumptions need proof, Stroheim statment could simple be about beating him in AP, which was what he stated even, and even then if we are assuming there are metal that can resist it then why is the assumption that the metal virus metal is the one who doesn't resist, afterall Tails nor Eggman ever suggest using acid instead of making a cure, if we are making assumptions anything is fair. Also there's the fact that Stroheim made the suit based on Santana's hax, since everyone is saying Kars is better (and it definitvely is) then Stroheim's shouldn't even workedKinda hard to do that if you aren't composed of a metal that is resilient to the acid manip, which the nazi's knew they could do as they seen them do it. It isn't said he resists that, but it can definitely be inferred, especially if we seen prior that they can absorb metals.
Yeah, there's the fact that the more he touches Shadow the more infected he gets, meaning that doing what you said here:Hell doing some rough math, it should only take about 1m to acid hax, comparing the medal to Shadow's mass, the time frame involved and inflating that for the new mass, Ignoring Kars Ult acid would be better. So it's definitely gonna be troublesome, it's a matter of, could Kars restrain him for that long?
If we go the route that Kars can shift his cells back then he possibly could with his like 200x LS advantage.
Is going to infect him in an instantKars can just engulf around him.
okay i'm having trouble keeping track of everything, can someone tell me who voted what? which votes should be retracted, and who changed their votes?They would have to vote again, but their votes should be removed since absorption doesn't work in inorganic beings
Literally gave you the scan? It's only in the manga, but he has a metal cross with the Nazi insignia on his chest, Wham ate it when he knocked in him, along with the other 60% of his body, clothes, and the like.Scan pls?
This feels like an assumption, and assumptions need proof, Stroheim statement could simple be about beating him in AP, which was what he stated even, and even then if we are assuming there are metal that can resist it then why is the assumption that the metal virus metal is the one who doesn't resist, afterall Tails nor Eggman ever suggest using acid instead of making a cure, if we are making assumptions anything is fair.
Also there's the fact that Stroheim made the suit based on Santana's hax, since everyone is saying Kars is better (and it definitvely is) then Stroheim's shouldn't even worked
Yeah, there's the fact that the more he touches Shadow the more infected he gets, meaning that doing what you said here:Is going to infect him in an instant
Any FRA before the post you quoted, since they were just "absorption" gg, except maybe Chariot's since he is giving further reasoningokay i'm having trouble keeping track of everything, can someone tell me who voted what? which votes should be retracted, and who changed their votes?
I never actually voted nor will I, I'm just giving Kars an argument and basis for votes, I don't really partake in vs matches usually, this one isn't that bad though so figured may as well.Any FRA before the post you quoted, since they were just "absorption" gg, except maybe Chariot's since he is giving further reasoning
Apologies, it somehow slipped my mind, yeah, I guess he can absorbe metal and that Stroheim just resists itLiterally gave you the scan? It's only in the manga, but he has a metal cross with the Nazi insignia on his chest, Wham ate it when he knocked in him, along with the other 60% of his body, clothes, and the like.
Fair enough except for the nukes part, IDW is only tier 8 because we don't scale to canon, but it is implied the game events happened that would probably give everyone scaling above nukes in verse, however Eggman would definitvely try to kill them all with Ian's writting, but he probably couldn't since he lacked the resources at the time, so I concede Ult Kars can absorbe the zombotIt is an assumption, a good one. He's stronger then Santana, and was made to be able to kill the Pillar Men. Are we going to assume the Nazi's made a cyborg made to fight and throw hands with ancient aztec gods who melt and dissolve things on contact, without factoring in that maybe the metal should be made resilent to the things it was specifically designed to kill by tearing apart?
Because why would the metal virus resist it? Unlike Stroheim, the metal virus wasn't explicitly shown in contact with the acid creature and wasn't designed for regular contact with it. And yes, I'm sure Eggman and Tails would prefer making a cure over trying to toss every zombot into a pool of powerful acid which they may not even have of that caliber. If it was a matter of simply getting rid of the virus, they could have just used nukes given I don't think the 8-A metals could survive direct bombardment from the high end nuclear devices the Sonic verse has, but that wasn't an option either. I'm led to assume that Eggman and Tails were saying what's actually reasonably possible and they could pull off.
Because I don't think he is even going to have the time to shift, we have seen in IDW that pretty much engulfing them in the virus converts them immediately in contact, like when Eggman engulfed a city with it (finding the scan)So we're not going with the fact Kars can and explicitly has the ability to control and shift his cellular structure at will anymore? Why's that?
Because I don't think he is even going to have the time to shift, we have seen in IDW that pretty much engulfing them in the virus converts them immediately in contact, like when Eggman engulfed a city with it (finding the scan)
Here are the examples of what I was talking about in issue 16:Kars can instantly shift his cells though? It's basically instant after he got the hang of it, he can even shift the cells from parts that aren't connected to him directly, such as with the feathers turning into armadillo shells and then into fish and then into octopi, and I've been assuming he could shift even after they've been turned, as outlined above, Kars could change his body from immaterial substances back and forth even in base, and in Ultimate, it's now on a cellular scale. As long as he isn't 100% instantly effected all at once, he should be able to go back would he not?
a̶l̶s̶o̶ ̶w̶o̶u̶l̶d̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶f̶a̶c̶t̶ ̶e̶a̶c̶h̶ ̶i̶n̶d̶i̶v̶i̶d̶u̶a̶l̶ ̶c̶e̶l̶l̶s̶ ̶e̶x̶u̶d̶e̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶a̶c̶i̶d̶,̶ ̶m̶a̶k̶e̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶d̶i̶f̶f̶i̶c̶u̶l̶t̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶t̶i̶n̶y̶ ̶c̶e̶l̶l̶ ̶s̶i̶z̶e̶d̶ ̶d̶r̶o̶n̶e̶s̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶r̶e̶c̶o̶n̶f̶i̶g̶u̶r̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶c̶e̶l̶l̶s̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶g̶e̶t̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶h̶a̶r̶m̶e̶d̶?̶
Because it's explicitly noted every cell is what makes the acid.
Ignoring the first one because I doubt Shadow can pull off what is essentially a few ten thousand tons of the shit dropping on his foe. The second example is actually kinda what I was thinking, it isn't instant, it looked like it took at least a few seconds for it to effect him fully, assuming this is Kars in the condition right before he got space'd (would have to, he has Hamon), he can shift his cells faster then that I'd say.I don't know if there are "cell sized" drones, it's kinda just a liquid that converts people that touches it, it's never really implied there's a limited amount since the Zombots eventually convert everything into them, even a minor touche can convert someone into it, so I don't know man
Yeah there was and you are completely right:Also in a earlier scan you posted, was there not a tiny drone shown next to cells with like a saw and the like when talking about the virus? I was under the impression the virus was tiny drones like that and the drones reconfigure and splice the cells based on that.
That's because touching a zombot like what you are implying Kars will do have the same effect, going through the comic right now to find a similar exampleIgnoring the first one because I doubt Shadow can pull off what is essentially a few ten thousand tons of the shit dropping on his foe.
Yeah, it's a virus and if every cell can fight it off then I don't think he can be infected in the first place, so I guess he slowly corrodes Shadow down using his LS while fighting off the infection,Though, now that we have it confirmed they're tiny drones, would each and every single cell of Kars being able to and for the most part, passively exuding a corrosive acid hinder the drone in anyway?
Also didn’t AC/DC Walk barefoot on top of spikes to where it went through his feet yet the spikes were completely unaffected?