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Has the durability negation been shown to work on anything other than monsters? The profile doesn't specifically mention it so I'm asking to know.
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Two vampire hunters duke it out. Buffy vs Trevor Belmont (Netflix)
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Anything supernatural it has a tendency to work on, vampires and night creatures essentially die in one hit to it unless Buffy isn’t some supernatural entity and is just some normal person who’s good at fighting.
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Yeah Buffy wins this im afraid. Simply put, she takes the edge in pretty much every category. She's stronger than Belmont in terms of AP and LS, and her slayer blood gives her thousands of years of combat experience.
Some people have argued that Belmont would win due to the fact that his (standard) whip is harmful against supernatural beings (which Buffy would qualify as), and that it would kill Buffy by bypassing her durability, rendering the AP/LS advantage pointless, but I don't think that would be the case here.
See, Belmont's whips are stated to be Holy due to it being consecrated against creatures of the night, which is likely what also allows it to bypass the durability of its supernatural foes in the first place. Despite the fact that Slayers in Buffy's verse draw their powers from Demon essence (which is what gives them their supernatural powers), Slayers such as Buffy have an routinely utilised Holy weaponry as a means of combating enemies such as Vampires without it causing harm to themselves, despite the fact that Slayer's should technically be harmed by it as well due to their demonic origins. With that logic in mind, Trevor's Leather Whip shouldn't be able to harm Buffy the same way it does actual demons. It's still a dangerous whip, sure, but Buffy isn't going to suddenly explode just by touching it.
Last but not least, Buffy's standard equipment grants her a crossbow, meaning she also takes the range stat by being able to fight from a distance. That's not to say its instawin for Buffy, since both characters usually fight in melee, but it is an additional advantage that Buffy has that can utilise, and with all the advantages she has, including having a pretty strong regen, Trevor just doesn't have anything to nab him the win.
That being said, Trevor would absoluty destroy Buffy if speed wasn't equalized and Morningstar was allowed, but that's neither her nor there.
Some people have argued that Belmont would win due to the fact that his (standard) whip is harmful against supernatural beings (which Buffy would qualify as), and that it would kill Buffy by bypassing her durability, rendering the AP/LS advantage pointless, but I don't think that would be the case here.
See, Belmont's whips are stated to be Holy due to it being consecrated against creatures of the night, which is likely what also allows it to bypass the durability of its supernatural foes in the first place. Despite the fact that Slayers in Buffy's verse draw their powers from Demon essence (which is what gives them their supernatural powers), Slayers such as Buffy have an routinely utilised Holy weaponry as a means of combating enemies such as Vampires without it causing harm to themselves, despite the fact that Slayer's should technically be harmed by it as well due to their demonic origins. With that logic in mind, Trevor's Leather Whip shouldn't be able to harm Buffy the same way it does actual demons. It's still a dangerous whip, sure, but Buffy isn't going to suddenly explode just by touching it.
Last but not least, Buffy's standard equipment grants her a crossbow, meaning she also takes the range stat by being able to fight from a distance. That's not to say its instawin for Buffy, since both characters usually fight in melee, but it is an additional advantage that Buffy has that can utilise, and with all the advantages she has, including having a pretty strong regen, Trevor just doesn't have anything to nab him the win.
That being said, Trevor would absoluty destroy Buffy if speed wasn't equalized and Morningstar was allowed, but that's neither her nor there.
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The AP isn’t that big to be a deciding factor here, neither is LS when Trevor fought and kept up with Alucard, who’s LS outclassed him.
The fact she’s tied to demonic powers/lineage in the first place means she’s gonna be affected by the whip’s power. Plus she doesn’t have resistances to the whip’s abilities so her being demonic still leaves her vulnerable to the whip’s power.
Crossbows mean jackshit to someone who can easily adapt to archers while bare handed and has numerous ranged attacks he can utilize with the whip, something Bucky can’t really do with a crossbow. Regen means nothing here when the whip’s explosion will overpower the regen immensely. Vampires in general have Low-Mid regen in Netflixlvania and they still die to the whip so yeah not really a deciding factor.
The fact she’s tied to demonic powers/lineage in the first place means she’s gonna be affected by the whip’s power. Plus she doesn’t have resistances to the whip’s abilities so her being demonic still leaves her vulnerable to the whip’s power.
Crossbows mean jackshit to someone who can easily adapt to archers while bare handed and has numerous ranged attacks he can utilize with the whip, something Bucky can’t really do with a crossbow. Regen means nothing here when the whip’s explosion will overpower the regen immensely. Vampires in general have Low-Mid regen in Netflixlvania and they still die to the whip so yeah not really a deciding factor.
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Although Slayers' powers originally came from the essence of a demon, Slayers are not of demonic bloodline. In fact, the Slayer bloodline is the force that keeps Evil itself out of the universe.
Isn't the whip's explosion High 8-C? Whip's explosion should be restricted in this match to make it a fair match
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That doesn’t really change the fact that it’s demonic in nature, the night creatures are just human bodies with a soul of a person in hell shoved into it, that’s still classified as demonic in nature and can blow them up easily.
No the whip’s explosion you’re referring to the item crash when he has both the normal whip and Morningstar whip, by explosion I’m talking about the holy explosion every single demonic force of nature suffers from.
Trevor scales to Sypha at that point, so that ice feat would be comparable to him.
No the whip’s explosion you’re referring to the item crash when he has both the normal whip and Morningstar whip, by explosion I’m talking about the holy explosion every single demonic force of nature suffers from.
Trevor scales to Sypha at that point, so that ice feat would be comparable to him.
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Yeah, no, did you not read anything I had written? The whip isn't going to work on Buffy simply because she herself isn't affected by Holy weapons, as she herself has carried multiple holy artifacts/weapons without being affected by them, and this is despite her demonic origins. If the Slayer originally being demonic was a problem, then Buffy wouldn't be able to carry crosses and the like.
On that note, the whip's durability negating powers are derived from the whip itself having Holy Magic, and the foes that Trevor faces being specifically vulnerable to such Magic. It shouldn't be considered a mutualy exclusive ability. Buffy herself isn't affected by wielding holy items, so the whip won't do much either in this case.
Plus saying that Buffy would be affect because she "lacks resistances" to Holy Magic is just fallacious. It's like saying Hamon from Jojo can destroy humans the same way it can destroy vampires because you can channel it through both targets and Humans can't resist Hamon. You can, but Hamon isn't going to turn humans to ash in the same way a vampire would be, it would at most shock them. Same logic here, but with the whip and Buffy.
Again, the crossbow isn't a deciding factor, but it is another factor that Buffy takes the edge in as it does mean she has acess to ranged weaponry, while Belmont doesn't.
Again, this is under the assumption that Buffy would be affected at all by the whips Holy attributes, or that the durability negation against supernatural foes is a mutually exclusive ability from the whips Holy power (which it isn't). Castlevania Vampires boil because the whip is holy in nature and they are weak to holy magic. Buffy's regen won't be affected by the whip because she herself isn't vulnerable to holy magic.
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Trevor's got throwing knives so range isn't an issue, best case the pair cancel each other out and its also in character for him to use them in a way to set up his opponents to get hit by his whip as he did with Alucard
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Slayers are not demonic. Yes, the first slayer was empowered with the essence of demon and the slayer bloodline began, but slayers are not the night creature and demonic. It's the opposite of that. They are supernatural beings who keep the concept of evil itself out of the universe. And And Slayers are not affected by holy things
There is nothing in Trevor's profile that says/shows that Trevor scales to Sypha.
If trevor scales to Sypha, his profile should be corrected to show this
And trevor's 0.017 tons feat should be removed from his profile as it is not accept.
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Buffy still has the advantage in ranged weapons thanks to her marksmanship.
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Yeah, I really don't see Trevor winning this overall. Sure, Buffy's AP and LS isn't gigantic enough to be a stomp, but when you factor in that Buffy takes pretty much every category, on top of having THOUSANDS of years of experience due to Slayer Magic, Buffy just simply wins this by being better than Belmon in every concievable way, outside of Trevor's more powerful arsenal such as the Morningstar Whip.
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