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Two On One Battles Being Added to Profiles.

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I believe this is appropriate. Also, the rule already includes those three possibilities and an additional one. This might as well be added to the discussion rule, as in:

  • Matchups that involve more than two characters (i.e. a 2v2) will only be added to profiles under specific circumstances, which are:
  • If a character canonically needs another character to fight at their full potential (i.e. Naofumi Iwatani and Raphtalia)
  • If one character is useless on their own (i.e. Gentle Criminal and La Brava)
  • If two characters are canonically known for fighting alongside one another frequently and supplement each other as a team (i.e. Twinrova, Ice Climbers, Sora and Shiro ("Blank"), and Batma and Robi)
In the first and third cases, the results are to be added to both characters's profiles, while in the second and fourth cases, they are to be added only to the "main" character's profile.
Does this suit your request?
 
@Mand21

I am also uncertain about option 3, but since Reppuzan thinks that it is fine and I trust his judgement, I suppose that I am tentatively accepting of it.
 
@ProfessorLord

We are not ignoring you to be rude. It is simply hard to follow your reasoning with limited time available, and you seem to follow another track than the rest of us.

Edit: Never mind. I saw your last post.
 
@PL

I don't think Personas and Stands necessitate a separate category. They're closer to powers than actual characters or equipment because they're called upon at will in a manner akin to summons. They're always at the beck and call of their owners and they aren't truly separate beings. In fact, Stands and Personas are just the alter egos of their users, which just makes them synonymous with the character just the same.
 
@Antvasima

Yeah, Reppuzan has a good judgement and I think that by this point it's sufficiently restricted to be at least tolerable. And it's like PL said.

So, may I ask a question? Duos only, or are bigger teams allowed? Should we restrict the quantity of fighters? I'd love making a pack of wolves or lions hunt an opponent (A wolf pack is 5~11 large, a lion pride is up to 40 members large, but on average 13), but fights with, say, teams involving five different character profiles would be crazy hard to add upon finishing. Maybe limit fights to up to seven profiles involved at once? Or six? While necessarily following the rules.
 
Exactly. There should be a limit to team sizes, but this is more because of the number of character profiles than characters (after all, we're perfectly okay with civilizational wars), which is why I suggested a profiles-based restriction.
 
I think that we should restrict battles to duos only. The Win/Loss sections of character profiles would turn far too messy otherwise, as would the actual discussions.
 
Um... characters or profiles? :v
Lion pride wallpaper background 3801
Praise the sun! That's the Lion's Sin of pride.

There's a difference, like the one I pointed (whether or not pack hunting in case of species with cooperation is allowed in realistic numbers).
 
What about something like the Trio De Danger from DBS? They mostly fight as a team, have an attack that only works as a team, etc? I feel like the size of the team shouldn't matter if they still meet the qualifications. Justice League and Avengers don't fit the qualifications because they only fight with each other on occassion.
 
Characters preferably. It seems better to keep the instructions simple.
 
Aww, I see.

Well, I'll let Chartate101 and other people argue. Maybe something like "But keep the number of profiles involved at a minimum to not make the results and discussion a mess" could do, but I'll let other people argue now since I've presented my points. I'll keep following this to help with anything needed or point out anything that resurfaces, though. We should probably keep the discussion at a minimum until Andytrenom can come back, since they might end up needing to read too much if we don't..
 
@Chartate101

The problem is that if we continue along this track others will suggest a team of four characters, and then of five, etcetera, which, again, would turn too messy to include in the Win/Loss sections, and recurrently complicated to properly evaluate the matchup results of as well.
 
Yeah that was my entire point. Personas and stands are summons. Summons don't add up to the total participant limit. Theoretically if Jotaro and Yu were in a fight, they could both have up to 4 active bodies at a time, themselves, and their stands/personas.

This logic should also apply to Pokemon. Ash Ketchum can use as many Pokemon as he wants to "summon". He should be able to have many many different active bodies at a time. And no, there's not a "1 pokemon at a time" rule, we've seen him use all his pokemon to use a team attack against team rocket and other opponents in many different instances. Whether or not its in character for him to do so is another question.
 
Follow-up question since I'm still a bit confused, is it okay to gradually add who can partner with who in a characters footnotes? (After being discussed of course, maybe in a mega-thread) I see no reason not.
 
@PL

What are you trying to say then? Because that doesn't change the fourth category I created at all.

Writing that in the notes section should be more than enough.
 
I was clarifying more than anything. I don't think it needs a new category either, and I don't think it adds up to a characters 'participant' limit.
 
I think it'd be better to publicize which characters can team up with who. Notes section is for generilization, foot-notes are for specifics. It's hardly any extra work, again, there should be no real issue.
 
Well, maybe. By that point he might as well try to invade Nazarick with his army or something. Tauros platoon goes on the frontline and tanks attacks, ghost-types get in the front of instant death spells. Stuff like that.

  • ahem*
Any input on this part? Limitlessness of characters in cases 2 and 4.
 
Ash definitely does not have a limit to how much Pokemon he can have at one time. This is him literally using his entire team to blow Team Rocket up. Besides, summons don't really have a limit anyway, so it's not okay to limit Ash.

But yeah this generally goes on a case by case basis, this is more versus thread discussion.
 
lol if you mean Ash's whole roster of pokemon that has to have a limit. Pokemon trainers aren't allowed to carry around that meaning pokemon.
 
If they are in VS Battles, you can certainly count on me researching the Pokémon and Overlord verses and having an army of Pokémon attack Nazarick, though.

Actually, even if it isn't. I'm already doing my research just for fun.
 
did you even watch the video? 8-9 pokemon jumped out of their pokeballs and clothing

unless your implying that he's breaking the law, it's clearly in-character and possible for him to do so
 
mybad i thought you meant the episode before in his hometown where he used all his pokemon to blast off Team rocket lol
 
Okay way off topic.

So discussion rule for general and gradually editing all relevant characters (not a lot tbh) footnotes for specifics is good?
 
@Reppuzan

While I agree that something like Justice League vs. The Avengers would be a mess and that that's something we would want to avoid, what about teams that are more heavily co-dependent?

Precure characters can only unleash their most powerful attacks when they fight together, for example, and they generally come in teams of three to five. This fight is an excellent example of what I mean, particularly the end part with the Heartcatch Orchestra, which they can only perform when all four are present. (RIP the video quality though.)
 
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