Two genocidal maniacs (hank wimbleton vs frisk)

[thetechmaster36]

Why are people assuming that Frisk is just going to reload on a whim? Frisk has only been shown to reload when they die and nowhere else. Everyone talking about it being something they can do whenever they want is just taking the Photoshop Flowey instance and applying it to Frisk, which makes no sense considering the fact that they're two entirely different characters with two entirely different mindsets.

That said, Hank can't do anything against the reload when Frisk dies, so it's either he incaps them somehow or it's an incon.

 

[Chaos Jester25]

Why are people assuming that Frisk is just going to reload on a whim? Frisk has only been shown to reload when they die and nowhere else. Everyone talking about it being something they can do whenever they want is just taking the Photoshop Flowey instance and applying it to Frisk, which makes no sense considering the fact that they're two entirely different characters with two entirely different mindsets.

Frisk tried to reload on a whim during the Asriel fight after he transformed.

 

[Comiphorous]

Frisk tried to reload on a whim during the Asriel fight after he transformed.

Yeah but frisk was fighting a univese ending goat god.

here frisk is fighting a hobo weapon master.

big difference. (also, asriel was leagues above frisk, Hank isn't. except for skill that is)

 

[Kflare63]

That wasn't really on a whim that's when Frisk was desperate. And besides this is genocide route frisk we're talking about.

 

[Arceus0x]

it is also usually assumed throughout the matches that Frisk's save point is right before the fight.

Anyways Frisk won't reset until they are desperate but they absolutely will if they see no other chance.

But whatever. This is a mismatch.

You either vote incon or you close this.

 

[Kflare63]

it is also usually assumed throughout the matches that Frisk's save point is right before the fight.

Anyways Frisk won't reset until they are desperate but they absolutely will if they see no other chance.

But whatever. This is a mismatch.

You either vote incon or you close this.

As stated in the conditions and story this happens right after the sans fight, when Frisk reloads they have to fight sans again

 

[DaReaperMan]

As stated in the conditions and story this happens right after the sans fight, when Frisk reloads they have to fight sans again

So you tilted it in Hank's favor and assume he isn't going to come out wondering what the **** those sounds are?

 

[Comiphorous]

Doesn't even matter frisk would have to fight sans again. the fight should take 10-15 minutes to beat, which would lead straight back into the fight with hank.

they could also just. save. right after they beat sans.

 

[Kflare63]

So you tilted it in Hank's favor and assume he isn't going to come out wondering what the **** those sounds are?

I can change it if needed

 

[DaReaperMan]

I can change it if needed

I mean, doesn't matter, either Hank literally tries to fight and kill them both, probably succeeds, insert load, or he doesn't and he dodges Frisk until the end of time because of his reactions

 

[Kflare63]

it is also usually assumed throughout the matches that Frisk's save point is right before the fight.

Anyways Frisk won't reset until they are desperate but they absolutely will if they see no other chance.

But whatever. This is a mismatch.

You either vote incon or you close this.

Anyway how is this a mismatch?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Anyway how is this a mismatch?

Neither have a wincon, which means incon isn't even an option

 

[Kflare63]

Neither have a wincon, which means incon isn't even an option

Not even incon's an option? Man most if not all of my matches that aren't tournament matches, all either 1 get no attention, 2 is a stomp ,or 3 (and in this case) a mismatch.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Not even incon's an option? Man most if not all of my matches that aren't tournament matches, all either 1 get no attention, 2 is a stomp ,or 3 (and in this case) a mismatch.

Yeah, incon rules were changed like a month or two ago lol

 

[Kflare63]

Yeah, incon rules were changed like a month or two ago lol

Can I see the thread where this was established?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Can I see the thread where this was established?

Here ya go

https://vsbattles.com/threads/matches-where-neither-side-can-reach-their-win-condition-and-should-they-be-counted-as-inconclusive.122584/unread

 

[Kflare63]

Wait this means that incon is the only option

 

[thetechmaster36]

Frisk tried to reload on a whim during the Asriel fight after he transformed.

Frisk was literally unable to move against someone far more powerful than themselves, them trying to reach their SAVE file is a move out of desperation, not something they did on a whim.

 

[Arceus0x]

yeah this match is the definition of

 

[thetechmaster36]

yeah this match is the definition of

should've put some text in there

 

[Arceus0x]

Frisk was literally unable to move against someone far more powerful than themselves, them trying to reach their SAVE file is a move out of desperation, not something they did on a whim.

that is wrong. Wimbleton is nowhere near as scary and monstrous as a god of destruction capable of collapsing time and space that had an ability to immobilize people even as a flower.

Either way it doesn't matter whether that or this works there. It's incon and that's the end of it

 

[DaReaperMan]

Wait this means that incon is the only option

If there was a notable debate/it wasn't clear beforehand, which it was mostly just "Save/Load doesn't stop incap" and "Save/Load OP does stop incap" back and forth. Which isn't exactly a notable debate as it was mostly just interpretation or misinterpretation, and it being unclear was just the above... also Reset would BFR Frisk and as such lose them the match.

And it's not like it was unclear in the first place, least not for me, Hank can't be hit(his reactions are too far above his combat speed) and Frisk is just an unstoppable machine that literally can't be beat unless you pull a character with some real fucky shit

 

[Kflare63]

So... what happens to this thread then?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Gets closed for being a mismatch lol

 

[Kflare63]

Oh and I improved the image (hope it shows up)

 

[Comiphorous]

Oh and I improved the image (hope it shows up)

perfection.

 

[Kflare63]

Made that on my phone lol

 

[Comiphorous]

Made that on my phone lol

If you were on a computer, you should have compressed the entire image. idk why it just seems funny im my head.

 

[FoxySonicMaster108]

Form what I remember I’m pretty sure if it’s a mismatch it can’t be done.

Anywho, seems more like inconclusive though Hank could just incap from what I’m seeing, so either incon or Hank, leaning more towards Hank atm

 

[Comiphorous]

Anywho, seems more like inconclusive though Hank could just incap from what I’m seeing, so either incon or Hank, leaning more towards Hank atm

unless Frisk becomes depressed in the 30 minutes inside a room, i doubt they'll just sit in there and accept they were just locked in a room by a hobo with a katana.

 

[DaReaperMan]

unless Frisk becomes depressed in the 30 minutes inside a room, i doubt they'll just sit in there and accept they were just locked in a room by a hobo with a katana.

A katana and guns, lots and lots of guns

 

[Comiphorous]

A katana and guns, lots and lots of guns

your right, sorry

*Hobo with a katana, guns, a lot more guns, a lot a lot of guns. oh **** oh god there more guns-

 

[Deleted member 16409]

If there was a notable debate/it wasn't clear beforehand, which it was mostly just "Save/Load doesn't stop incap" and "Save/Load OP does stop incap" back and forth. Which isn't exactly a notable debate as it was mostly just interpretation or misinterpretation, and it being unclear was just the above... also Reset would BFR Frisk and as such lose them the match.

And it's not like it was unclear in the first place, least not for me, Hank can't be hit(his reactions are too far above his combat speed) and Frisk is just an unstoppable machine that literally can't be beat unless you pull a character with some real fucky shit

S p e e d e q u a l

 

[DaReaperMan]

S p e e d e q u a l

"The combat speed of that faster character is assumed to be equalized to the combat speed of the slower character. Every other speed the faster character has is reduced by the same multiplier. This includes the speed of any attacks, projectiles, reactions, perception, flight etc." ~ Versus Thread Rules

"Superhuman (Can jump at this speed) with at least Supersonic reactions (Can easily kill grunts, who can deflect bullets with swords, and deflected bullets at close range)"

"Hypersonic (At least as fast as themselves with high levels of Determination. Capable of Aim Dodging lasers fired from Sans' Gaster Blasters)"

Do ya see the issue with this picture?

 

[Deleted member 16409]

"The combat speed of that faster character is assumed to be equalized to the combat speed of the slower character. Every other speed the faster character has is reduced by the same multiplier. This includes the speed of any attacks, projectiles, reactions, perception, flight etc." ~ Versus Thread Rules

"Superhuman (Can jump at this speed) with at least Supersonic reactions (Can easily kill grunts, who can deflect bullets with swords, and deflected bullets at close range)"

"Hypersonic (At least as fast as themselves with high levels of Determination. Capable of Aim Dodging lasers fired from Sans' Gaster Blasters)"

Do ya see the issue with this picture?

No due to bad English, say TL;DR.

 

[DaReaperMan]

No due to bad English, say TL;DR.

Frisk gets Equalized down to Hank's Superhuman while Hank retains his Supersonic reactions is the jist of it