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Alright, I've been reading up on the arguments-
Twilight really... doesn't have anything The Batter hasn't already seen before.
I guess she's more versatile, arguably, but not all of those abilities are necessarily going to be of much help, meaning that trying to use them would be a waste of time. Against four seperate entities all attacks simultaneously in different ways, some of which have attacks that directly target the opponent rather than emitting some projectile, wastes of time are the last thing one would need...
The Batter seems to have at least comparable AP/Dura, if not better, so that's not an issue, and its not like his Add-Ons can't throw on more beyond that.
But, really, its about the hax, isn't it? What of Twilight's can The Batter overcome?
Transmutation/Petrification: Arguably. His body's inherently abstract/subject to change based on the perspective of The Player, so any attempts to make it something it isn't "supposed to be" within the context of the setting might not register. If it does work, its not like one of the other Add-Ons can undo it immediately, while the other two keep up their attacks. His Add-Ons are metaphysical/spiritual beings in nature, so they have no physical mass to transmute to begin with (batter arguably doesn't either.)
Mind Manipulation: Unless Twilight has some crazy powerful mind hax feats: you're going to need to break millions of people's worth before we start talking: he's had worse. And again, this is also curable.
Sealing: To where? If it's anything like The Quee's attempt to bar him from the entirety of his game's reality, he's got The Player and/or his own hax resist for that.
On The Batter's end of things, if this fight is taking place somewhere where there's no "Guardian" actively supplying the area with their soul, there's nothing stopping The Batter from immediately just wiping the planet with Purification- this, in character (in-character being something we've neglected up to this point I think), is the first thing The Batter would always lead with given the chance. It's literally his sole purpose. This, at least as it pertains to the fight:
> Erases from existence everything immediately nearby, as seen in the aftermath of Enoch's fight, and erases at least the majority of "impure" things across the rest of the planet.
> Summons hordes of "secretaries" across the planet that attack on sight.
If Twilight has no resistance to this, her odds of survival are slim... the only person who notably survived this (somehow) is a single Elsen bunkered down in a building on Zone 2. Why, nobody knows, but it technically can "miss," it would seem, under some circumstances. Still, not likely.
At any rate, Batter seems to have most of the advantages here. Twilight could overcome the numbers disadvantage with her spirit alicorn thing/Summoning if it's not considered outside help in this instance, and could probably learn/copy all of his Competences (close enough to spells functionally), but in the intervening time she'd have to outlast an Existence Erasure wave plus a barrage of projectiles and abstract perspective/reality-warping stuff from three other sources, all of whom are more readily disposed to and experienced in combat most likely, all while trying to get hits in rather than stay on the defensive. She might win a match or two, maybe three of ten, but all in all seems The Batter takes it fairly handily. At least, from what I can see presented.
Twilight really... doesn't have anything The Batter hasn't already seen before.
I guess she's more versatile, arguably, but not all of those abilities are necessarily going to be of much help, meaning that trying to use them would be a waste of time. Against four seperate entities all attacks simultaneously in different ways, some of which have attacks that directly target the opponent rather than emitting some projectile, wastes of time are the last thing one would need...
The Batter seems to have at least comparable AP/Dura, if not better, so that's not an issue, and its not like his Add-Ons can't throw on more beyond that.
But, really, its about the hax, isn't it? What of Twilight's can The Batter overcome?
Transmutation/Petrification: Arguably. His body's inherently abstract/subject to change based on the perspective of The Player, so any attempts to make it something it isn't "supposed to be" within the context of the setting might not register. If it does work, its not like one of the other Add-Ons can undo it immediately, while the other two keep up their attacks. His Add-Ons are metaphysical/spiritual beings in nature, so they have no physical mass to transmute to begin with (batter arguably doesn't either.)
Mind Manipulation: Unless Twilight has some crazy powerful mind hax feats: you're going to need to break millions of people's worth before we start talking: he's had worse. And again, this is also curable.
Sealing: To where? If it's anything like The Quee's attempt to bar him from the entirety of his game's reality, he's got The Player and/or his own hax resist for that.
On The Batter's end of things, if this fight is taking place somewhere where there's no "Guardian" actively supplying the area with their soul, there's nothing stopping The Batter from immediately just wiping the planet with Purification- this, in character (in-character being something we've neglected up to this point I think), is the first thing The Batter would always lead with given the chance. It's literally his sole purpose. This, at least as it pertains to the fight:
> Erases from existence everything immediately nearby, as seen in the aftermath of Enoch's fight, and erases at least the majority of "impure" things across the rest of the planet.
> Summons hordes of "secretaries" across the planet that attack on sight.
If Twilight has no resistance to this, her odds of survival are slim... the only person who notably survived this (somehow) is a single Elsen bunkered down in a building on Zone 2. Why, nobody knows, but it technically can "miss," it would seem, under some circumstances. Still, not likely.
...except they can? And in fact, have? The Queen screwed with reality on a universal scale to keep The Batter out of the inner circles of The Room, and he got through that just fine.Lightbuster30 said:
At any rate, Batter seems to have most of the advantages here. Twilight could overcome the numbers disadvantage with her spirit alicorn thing/Summoning if it's not considered outside help in this instance, and could probably learn/copy all of his Competences (close enough to spells functionally), but in the intervening time she'd have to outlast an Existence Erasure wave plus a barrage of projectiles and abstract perspective/reality-warping stuff from three other sources, all of whom are more readily disposed to and experienced in combat most likely, all while trying to get hits in rather than stay on the defensive. She might win a match or two, maybe three of ten, but all in all seems The Batter takes it fairly handily. At least, from what I can see presented.
