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Alright, going to be blatant here. Truth's tiering and some of his haxes seem to be very unjustified to say the least.
First thing first, him even being Low 2-C in the first place. When under any circumstance have we ever accepted someone being tier 2 here just by being an entire universe? Because if I didn't know any better, any being that's identified as a universal omnipresent would be able to qualify for that, which obviously isn't the case. And because I feel someone will bring this up, no, Zamasu is not a counter-argument for this since he actually has evidence of becoming one with space-time to qualify for his Low 2-C (and eventual 2-C) rating. Truth on the other hand isn't given that same luxary. All he is known for is existing as the universe. That's it. Not only is he not a fighter, but he's never established as being one with an entire space-time continuum like the former example is from what I recall from the series. He's literally just a textbook example of what an Omnipresent is.
Next issue is his Conceptual Manipulation. Where does this come from exactly? His page gives absolutely no details into this or what his concept hax exactly entails. But more to the point, there isn't a single point where Truth demonstrates this. He doesnt create concepts, nor does he destroy them. If all the basis to this is him existing as the universe and everything inside it, we've already had this song and dance of how existing as concepts (if even wanting to push this that far since no such statement of him existing as any concept is listed) doesn't grant you conceptual hax. Not without considerable evidence anyway.
But the biggest issue here of all would probably have to be his Omniscience. Don't get me wrong. If this was Nigh-Omniscience, it would be much better approrpriate and easily far more acceptable. But a series with a single universal-sized cosmology granting you Omniscience? Yeah no. First of all, the FMA Universe is never stated to be infinite, so it literally having infinite knowledge already seems fishy. Second, we have many verses here that are FAR bigger than FMA's cosmology, scoping from a dozen universes to trillions.. None of the characters there have anything more than Nigh-Omniscience. Even those who are Knowledge as a concept incarnate aren't given full on Omniscience.
If there's anymore issues, anyone's welcome to point them out. But these 3 are the main bread and butter.
First thing first, him even being Low 2-C in the first place. When under any circumstance have we ever accepted someone being tier 2 here just by being an entire universe? Because if I didn't know any better, any being that's identified as a universal omnipresent would be able to qualify for that, which obviously isn't the case. And because I feel someone will bring this up, no, Zamasu is not a counter-argument for this since he actually has evidence of becoming one with space-time to qualify for his Low 2-C (and eventual 2-C) rating. Truth on the other hand isn't given that same luxary. All he is known for is existing as the universe. That's it. Not only is he not a fighter, but he's never established as being one with an entire space-time continuum like the former example is from what I recall from the series. He's literally just a textbook example of what an Omnipresent is.
Next issue is his Conceptual Manipulation. Where does this come from exactly? His page gives absolutely no details into this or what his concept hax exactly entails. But more to the point, there isn't a single point where Truth demonstrates this. He doesnt create concepts, nor does he destroy them. If all the basis to this is him existing as the universe and everything inside it, we've already had this song and dance of how existing as concepts (if even wanting to push this that far since no such statement of him existing as any concept is listed) doesn't grant you conceptual hax. Not without considerable evidence anyway.
But the biggest issue here of all would probably have to be his Omniscience. Don't get me wrong. If this was Nigh-Omniscience, it would be much better approrpriate and easily far more acceptable. But a series with a single universal-sized cosmology granting you Omniscience? Yeah no. First of all, the FMA Universe is never stated to be infinite, so it literally having infinite knowledge already seems fishy. Second, we have many verses here that are FAR bigger than FMA's cosmology, scoping from a dozen universes to trillions.. None of the characters there have anything more than Nigh-Omniscience. Even those who are Knowledge as a concept incarnate aren't given full on Omniscience.
If there's anymore issues, anyone's welcome to point them out. But these 3 are the main bread and butter.
