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in order to qualify for Omniscient you need to know everything that has happened, is happening, and might/will happen, Truth's issue is we can't prove the ladder
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in order to qualify for Omniscient you need to know everything that has happened, is happening, and might/will happen, Truth's issue is we can't prove the ladder
in order to qualify for Omniscient you need to know everything that has happened, is happening, and might/will happen, Truth's issue is we can't prove the ladder
its more of you need to prove that Truth knows everything that might/will happen in the future, we can safely say he knows everything that happened and is happening but the future bit is the hardest to prove,
Is there anybody to answer that?Does a character's encompasses of all space and time indicate that he is the past, future, and present of the entire universe or is he just the only single point of spacetime? (also bump)
makes sense thenOh yeah, just realized Truth being surprised over Edward's choice is Anime-Only
only mentions being the Universe
He does iircOnly Universe? I remember it saying “Truth” and “All” as well.
I checked and that's what he says:Only Universe? I remember it saying “Truth” and “All” as well.
only in the anime truth has a surprise faceAre you using the Anime that has Truth with a surprise face or the Manga?
yes, though, i can check the manga thoYes, and I’m assuming “Italian dub” means Anime
In this case, does Truth cover the time? What exactly are we talking about everything" Ben dünya veya belki evren dediğiniz şeyim veya belki kurucu, hatta gerçek, veya bunların hepsi bir arada veya bunların hiçbiri, ancak ben de
senim "
apparently in our standards being reallity is enough for Low 2-C, Truth can keep his Low 2-CIn this case, does Truth cover the time? What exactly are we talking about everything
We can also put "possibly higher" due to existing beyond the gate
type 8 aswell, also i propose to adding Abstract Existence type 1 (truth is everything whithin the universe and the law of equivalent change) Higher-Dimensional Existence (he is the entire reallity, he exist beyond the gate of truth) information and memory manipulation (someone already proposed it above)So what do we do with immortality?
being everything or reallity is apparently considered Low 2-C in our standardsWouldn't Truth need to be proven to be time as well? Or else the best you can assume via "being the universe" is 3-A?
Also, as this thread reminded me, we should probably have a thread that differentiates regular omnipresence from "is the form of X, so you scale to X's tier". Not every omnipresent being scales to the totality of the tier of the object they represent, so it makes this a confusing case between why a universal omnipresent isn't Low 2-C or 3-A but any generic character that is the universe gets either of the latter tiers.
That don't sound right...being everything or reallity is apparently considered Low 2-C in our standards
that's why DB is getting upgraded (or at least getting the CRT)That don't sound right...
Truth never stated to not be past and future. just said to be everything, in reallity and universeBut if Truth doesn't include the past and the future. This shows that it's not everything, contradicts in itself
everything with reallity*"Everything" in this case doesn't need to be literally past, present and future. You can be everything within a single point in time or space.
Possibly Higher dosen't give a whole other tier here..I think Truth should be "3-A, possibly higher" based on what I have read here, but that is my two-cents, this is my first time dealing with something like this
I still think this is needed btw^Also, as this thread reminded me, we should probably have a thread that differentiates regular omnipresence from "is the form of X, so you scale to X's tier". Not every omnipresent being scales to the totality of the tier of the object they represent, so it makes this a confusing case between why a universal omnipresent isn't Low 2-C or 3-A but any generic character that is the universe gets either of the latter tiers.
well in fact, the reason why ''possible'' can be written is that the character may be the future, the past and the present, but because the evidence is insufficient, "possible higher" can be put.Possibly Higher dosen't give a whole other tier here..
the possibly higher meant a higher into 3-A, it would be useless for say that would be Low 2-C if it had contextwell in fact, the reason why ''possible'' can be written is that the character may be the future, the past and the present, but because the evidence is insufficient, "possible higher" can be put.