@Chariot190 Can you stop with the whataboutism on it being a certain tier or another because this same argument can be used in reverse.
Nope, I'll continue to do so because like it or not, it applies.
The same argument can't be used in reverse, jesus is that the only thing you can say? It's your response to half of what people say.
It quite literally can't be used in reverse, the only way you could even attempt to do so is just to spout lies and pretend it's the truth, but that doesn't make it a flippant of the argument, that just makes you a liar, so hopefully, that doesn't end up happening.
Also the Triforce not being what made the realm in the first place is irrelevant for stabilization feats given we have shit like God of War's Pillar sustaining all of existence despite not being what made the universe in the first place.
"don't do whataboutisms"
Then you proceed to do exactly that, hypocrite much?
But you're right, you don't have to create a realm to sustain it, but you know what not creating it means right? It's a one way street, you can sustain a realm that isn't directly tied to your existence as a whole, but a realm doesn't need to vanish if not directly tied to your existence inverse, it isn't like Lorule had absolutely nothing prior to the Triforce, it still existed, this is a crucial detail you keep handwaving. Why in the world would a realm that already existed getting energy from a 3rd source mean when that source goes away it must vanish or it discredits everything when the realm itself isn't tied to its existence, but rather will just decay due to the absence of the energy that made it flourish? Lorule feat as a whole isn't even a true stabilization feat
as a premise, this is your battle boarding rotted brain seeing something that resembles it and trying to make it into something it's not, the Triforce is basically the equivalent of a power station that went zip and now shit just slowly falls into disrepair the same way you'd expect a city to if the power went out and then didn't come back for like a century.
So cool, you brought up a false equivalence with GoW, congratulations.
Except I never once said the full triforce isn't even town level so you're just putting shit in my mouth, I literally scale the triforce would upscale from the triforce of power.
That just tells me you didn't even bother thinking about what you even proposed.
In your own words, you said it took centuries for Lorule to get to the state of decay it was, guess how much energy is divided by that timeframe?
You're arguing 8-A to low Tier 7 full Triforce, if you don't even realize that, all that tells me is you didn't even bother to think before you talked and this CRT is a whole lot worse than originally thought.
Yeah no, a nuclear bomb is not the same thing as magical objects that can grant wishes, especially when the latter doesn't have as much explicit physical feats as a nuclear bomb so this is just false equivalency.
I didn't say bomb, I said reactor, ya know, the thing that generates energy for places to use but generates insane energy and can cause tremendous disaster and fall out if ****** up even slightly
Wish granting doesn't matter, we're not talking about the wish aspect but the energy granting aspect as per the whole Lorule thing. A nuclear reactor is an apt comparison, or a power grid, or even a AA battery.
Triforce doesn't need a physical feat lad, the only person who scales to it is Ganon, who scales via it's magical prowess, which in turns amps his physical strength. The Triforce doesn't have a physical strength, it's funny floating Doritos, it literally
can't use physical strength, but AP isn't physical strength, you're conflating Striking Strength and LS with AP.
What part of Lorule taking a long time to collapse makes it an absence of a feat in the first place? Can you explain how in any way this is a nonexistent feat at all or are you just going to keep telling me that this is just wasting everyone's time?
It's been explained like 5 times, by multiple people, you actually can't be serious.
I can't say anything else beyond you're either trolling or actively stonewalling, either way I can't quite say I care. Nobody agrees with you in the slightest anyhow, no skin off my back.
And lad, I'm not the only person who thinks so, actual insanity here, everyone is wasting their time with this, it's an absence of a feat because of
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Because of that? Do I need to explain what basic words entail now? There is no feat there, it's an absence of a feat, you now know expressions one would learn in early elementary.
No, having two feats, one being the only thing remotely close to being physical in nature while the other is just textbook reality warping, and the former failing to qualify to scale fully to the raw stats makes the feat wrong so you're once again taking my arguments out of context. So I'd appreciate it if you stop with this.
It being reality warping doesn't matter? The reality warping is done via magic (wow shocker), and its magic scales to its magic (who would've guessed?). And then funny Pig Man uses its magical power to bolster his own power directly, so he scales to its full magical might because that's literally what we're told.
And who says its reality warping? That's what we list it as, but fact of the matter is, all it is in context is ******* insane magical power. If the magical power scales, it scales.
We don't need the Lorule feat, we've never needed it, we don't use it, so arguing with you is, again, waste of time. All that matters is the Dark World feat, you've outright refused to actually tackle it, so nothing has changed.
And good god I wish I could take your arguments out of context but I'm having trouble even figuring out what the context is as all you've done is take thing out of context for said arguments.
That still doesn't answer my question dude.
That sounds like a personal issue.
h yes, so it doesn't discredit your argument but it discredits mine, totally not a double standard here.
Or maybe it just doesn't matter to begin with and the whole point flew over your head
I'm not saying either one is legitimate, my point was this whole conversation doesn't matter to begin with
mine isn't cherry picking anyhow
The more you do not read my OP on where I planned on putting the triforce in the first place the more I'm not going to take your argument seriously, because I literally said this.
Nah, you are legitimately arguing that the Lorule feat, is an anti-feat, you've done that all throughout this thread, what you proposed in the OP doesn't matter because if the Lorule """""""""""anti-feat""""""""""" is used and taken seriously to discredit the other feats, which you have, without end, argued. You don't get to arbitrarily go "oh but it's tier 6 btw", the Lorule shit is an anti-feat for Tier 6 too.
You're trying to have your cake and eat it too, tough luck, given you failed to even run the basic math on the actual numbers your initial "antifeat" proposal entailed I don't expect you to realize that, but as said, it's barely even tier 7, you want to use it as an anti-feat beyond all common sense? I suggest you start writing up why it discredits the dozens of feats above it not just from the Triforce, but everyone below it in lore too, you can't arbitrarily say it discredits some feats but not others when they're all above it.
So can you for once do me a favor and actually read what my OP said instead of making assumptions cause you're making an ass out of yourself.
Feeling is mutual, you came in here without even realizing what your own downgrade entails lmao.
Also you've gotten ratio'd like five times, I think that might just be your personal opinion there lad because you don't like what I have to say.
Yeah ok that's my bad, I could've sworn the portion was in the new translation, but the fact there exists more than one triforce in the series still stands as it makes no sense for one triforce to have all of the power of the goddesses when the existence of more than 1 implies their powers have to be separated.
Quite frankly don't care, just as he needs to prove his claims, you need to prove yours too.
No it wouldn't, causing the destruction of a realm by not sustaining it would need statement that time itself was nuked as well, without the elaboration it's 3-A at best.
Oh, but that's what you've been arguing? The realm didn't instantly go poof, it going poof would obviously, ya know, effect the space-time as well because the dimension just ups and vanishes
Or what did you think a whole goddamn dimension that's universal in scope vanishing is usually treated as? Because the usual assumption isn't just 3-A, the key word here being "dimension", parallel world, universe, a
space-time. If a whole universe flat out ceased existence, which is what the premise of your argument is focused on based on me Crtl+F "Dimension" and how many times you've said it.
Now do us all a favor Glass, actually argue something of merit or like, don't? I'm sure everyone ******* detests Lorule at this point. Ignoring it doesn't discredit anything because the absence of a feat for a realm it didn't even create and merely gave some juice to not instantly disintegrating doesn't mean the feat of it warping a whole universe that other time somehow isn't legit, and if it ain't, well how about you argue that instead?
Literally in the page it says their power wouldn't be comparable and wouldn't even give them a 3-A, let alone a Low 2-C feat in the first place. This is an anti feat for the dark world since that's the only other 3-A feat the triforce has, which again has no showings of it being a physical feat and is at best just reality warping. If reality warping always granted a rating in Zelda then Majora wouldn't have been downgraded from his Low 2-C key since that was argued to only being a range thing and not an AP thing.
Uh, actual out of context there lad.
That page is speaking strictly if
all they had is a stabilization feat. Again, you're acting like the absence of a feat is an anti-feat in and of itself. Don't twist and distort what the page says to try and suit your own argument, everyone here knows damn well that isn't saying what you're trying to implicate it does.
And dude, the Hyrule flood is above the Lorule "anti-feat", every time the Triforce actively uses magic to do just about anything it's above this, if anything that alone is reason to handwave this if it was even a legitimate complaint to begin with.
Also Majora legitimately has an argument to be made for Low 2-C
but it's ******* stupid and I hate it, and the info is likely erroneous anyway
The reason he was downgraded had nothing to do with reality warping, it's like you forget everyone in this thread partook in that downgrade thread.
