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Transformers (Universe) CRT
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In the background, it's all practically destroyed?
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Hm. It doesn't seem like a very good feat so I'll remove it
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@ByAsura Here’s Ratchet saying that Megatron only convinced himself that he was weaker.
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I still need someone to do calcs for those feats.
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Drite77 says he will do the calcs, but it's gonna take a while because he's busy
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I meant in general. Basically anything that can be applied already.
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If you list the feats in an easy to understand manner, I can call a few calc group members to come here.
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I already asked Drite77 to do it. He says he'll take a while since he's busy.
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I would like a little more direct input on somethings, but right now nobody disagrees with changing G1, Beast Wars and TFA, and removing WFC. I can do all that a few hours from now.
The IDW stuff is still in discussion.
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Why grimlock tho
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I updated the power of the verse section.
Edit: Added a power of the verse section for the multiverse characters
Edit: Added a power of the verse section for the multiverse characters
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Uh, where’s the High 6-A calc that the G1 characters are scaling to?
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Knocking the moon out of orbit, I suppose.
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I feel like you should at least link the calc
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Thank you for helping out. I trust your sense of judgement regarding if certain profile pages should be deleted due to poor quality, but the other pages that link to them would also need to be updated.
What else is left to do here?
What else is left to do here?
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IDW attack potency. Waiting for calcs and input from others.
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The argument for Tier 7 is :
- Cast getting hurt by a kinetic harpoon, a weapon stronger than a tactical nuclear weapon.
- Pyro claiming a 15 kiloton explosion can kill him in a fantasy situation of his.
- Megatron claiming he could destroy a city.
- The cast would've been killed by a 6-C bomb.
The argument for Tier 6 is :
- Mega-Toraxxis Refinery Explosion
- Sixshot and the phase sixers have the sole purpose of razing worlds, to the point they are uninhabitable. The time frame for this should logically be short as the phase sixers attack vulnerable worlds that aren't able to react in time.
- The ravagers do the same thing. Many characters are able to harm the ravagers and the phase sixers.
- Thunderwing ravages the entirety of nebulos in a short amount of time. It is implied it would take a planetary nuke to kill him. Several characters scale to him.
- Swindle's weapon should wield 3.8e+26 watts, High 6-A.
- While looking through Overlord's memories, Chromedome stated that the former could shave an inch off a planet.
The feats have not been calced. These are just going off what has been calced and what we have. Drite77 is gonna do it.
- Cast getting hurt by a kinetic harpoon, a weapon stronger than a tactical nuclear weapon.
- Pyro claiming a 15 kiloton explosion can kill him in a fantasy situation of his.
- Megatron claiming he could destroy a city.
- The cast would've been killed by a 6-C bomb.
The argument for Tier 6 is :
- Mega-Toraxxis Refinery Explosion
- Sixshot and the phase sixers have the sole purpose of razing worlds, to the point they are uninhabitable. The time frame for this should logically be short as the phase sixers attack vulnerable worlds that aren't able to react in time.
- The ravagers do the same thing. Many characters are able to harm the ravagers and the phase sixers.
- Thunderwing ravages the entirety of nebulos in a short amount of time. It is implied it would take a planetary nuke to kill him. Several characters scale to him.
- Swindle's weapon should wield 3.8e+26 watts, High 6-A.
- While looking through Overlord's memories, Chromedome stated that the former could shave an inch off a planet.
The feats have not been calced. These are just going off what has been calced and what we have. Drite77 is gonna do it.
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At the moment, I'm mostly kin to Likely/Possibly High 6-A. But I'm waiting for input from others
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- Sixshot and the phase sixers have the sole purpose of razing worlds, to the point they are uninhabitable. The time frame for this should logically be short as the phase sixers attack vulnerable worlds that aren't able to react in time.
The phase-sixers make worlds conquerable for Cybertron by killing populations. Technically, someone that can launch nuclear-level attacks could be able to do this in a relatively short period of time. In fact, it would probably be preferable to Megatron if they didn't use Tier 6 firepower to attack planets.
- Thunderwing ravages the entirety of nebulos in a short amount of time. It is implied it would take a planetary nuke to kill him. Several characters scale to him.
Thunderwing possibly didn't Ravage Nebulous, he was in the process of doing so and was drawn off. The planetary bombardment strategy is also seen as an absolute last resort and only suggested because two whole Cybertronian armies couldn't stop him. Optimus Prime only harmed him because ultra-energon is highly unstable and he had tons of guns on him.
- Swindle's weapon should wield 3.8e+26 watts, High 6-A.
Drawing energy from a star itself is vague, as Swindle could literally be taking 1 watt from it, especially since he specifies that it's collapsed. There's no evidence that he's taking the entire output of a star for 1 second from it to power his weapon, or that it even really scales to him. Notably, it's mentioned for one panel and barely does anything in the next, whereas planet-killing/surface-wiping weapons are typically portrayed as much more of a threat.
- While looking through Overlord's memories, Chromedome stated that the former could shave an inch off a planet.
This is quite possibly hyperbolic. Shave an inch is often used as an expression in media.
IDW is just too inconsistent overall. That's why I think giving them a sort of variable rating is the best idea.
The phase-sixers make worlds conquerable for Cybertron by killing populations. Technically, someone that can launch nuclear-level attacks could be able to do this in a relatively short period of time. In fact, it would probably be preferable to Megatron if they didn't use Tier 6 firepower to attack planets.
- Thunderwing ravages the entirety of nebulos in a short amount of time. It is implied it would take a planetary nuke to kill him. Several characters scale to him.
Thunderwing possibly didn't Ravage Nebulous, he was in the process of doing so and was drawn off. The planetary bombardment strategy is also seen as an absolute last resort and only suggested because two whole Cybertronian armies couldn't stop him. Optimus Prime only harmed him because ultra-energon is highly unstable and he had tons of guns on him.
- Swindle's weapon should wield 3.8e+26 watts, High 6-A.
Drawing energy from a star itself is vague, as Swindle could literally be taking 1 watt from it, especially since he specifies that it's collapsed. There's no evidence that he's taking the entire output of a star for 1 second from it to power his weapon, or that it even really scales to him. Notably, it's mentioned for one panel and barely does anything in the next, whereas planet-killing/surface-wiping weapons are typically portrayed as much more of a threat.
- While looking through Overlord's memories, Chromedome stated that the former could shave an inch off a planet.
This is quite possibly hyperbolic. Shave an inch is often used as an expression in media.
IDW is just too inconsistent overall. That's why I think giving them a sort of variable rating is the best idea.
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I was more or less referring to this, this and this. Twin twist survives getting kicked over and stepped on by Thunderwing. Crankcase somehow survives ramming into Thunderwing and gets brain damage, it's implied the wound was from Thunderwing. Twin twist survives the attack and skullcruncher is later seen again in mtmte. However, it's likely Thunderwing wasn't really trying against twin twist and skullcruncher.
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The first one isn't a direct hit. It's a shockwave that they don't take the brunt of.
The second one is him actually killing those Decepticons, which is also your third scan.
I'd say that's accurate, because he's way above Optimus. I'd say they scale to him in some marginal sense (it's obvious he's not like a thousand times stronger), but Thunderwing still surpasses them, and his feats aren't really that enormous outside some guidebook claiming his strength was sending shockwaves throughout the universe. Someone who could scale is Regenesis Shockwave, as he's much stronger than Thunderwing's unaltered form and powered up by Ore-13.
The second one is him actually killing those Decepticons, which is also your third scan.
I'd say that's accurate, because he's way above Optimus. I'd say they scale to him in some marginal sense (it's obvious he's not like a thousand times stronger), but Thunderwing still surpasses them, and his feats aren't really that enormous outside some guidebook claiming his strength was sending shockwaves throughout the universe. Someone who could scale is Regenesis Shockwave, as he's much stronger than Thunderwing's unaltered form and powered up by Ore-13.
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I just thought of something, with the IDW downgrade, Nova Prime would still be something like; “X, Low 2-C via hax’ right?
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Alright. Also I'm pretty sure the dead universe is only 3-A. In ask vector prime, he said the dead universe was just another pocket universe, and not an actual universe of its own.
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But in the comic, Shockwave stated that he had Nova’s power in the main universe and he was collapsing all of space and time.
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