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Overlord is comparable to tarn, who the latter claims that Megatron could beat him even if Tarn amps himself with lots of nuke.
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I'm not sure I understand what you're doing in the chart you've made. Then again, it's 4:30 am, gimme a break.This feat. The first calc is isn't gonna be used as the size of cybertron is now inaccurate. For the proper size of cybertron, the scans for it are here and here. I made a rough size chart base on those two scans.
That's just a problem with Transformers. It's terribly inconsistent. However, several prominent characters tank a Multi-Continent level explosion to the face, so I don't see why we even need to keep talking about this. The Pyro thing still seems ridiculous to me, and Optimus was staggered by the force/propulsion of the shockwave.Still runs into the consistency issue like before with all of the damage from far lower feats.
AgreedThat's just a problem with Transformers. It's terribly inconsistent. However, several prominent characters tank a Multi-Continent level explosion to the face, so I don't see why we even need to keep talking about this. The Pyro thing still seems ridiculous to me, and Optimus was staggered by the force/propulsion of the shockwave.
It is only one feat, multiple characters were there but it is just one feat.That's just a problem with Transformers. It's terribly inconsistent. However, several prominent characters tank a Multi-Continent level explosion to the face, so I don't see why we even need to keep talking about this. The Pyro thing still seems ridiculous to me, and Optimus was staggered by the force/propulsion of the shockwave.
I... what?I used the cybetron pic that was in the calc. my bad. just ignore the line
I'm arguing about downgrading that.About the g1 being planet level, weren't the only characters that scale to galvatron were optimus and rodimus?
Overlord has far more reason to scale above Megatron than to Tarn. The two haven't even directly fought.Overlord is comparable to tarn, who the latter claims that Megatron could beat him even if Tarn amps himself with lots of nuke.
To be fair, the amount of feats and statements are about equal. Galvatron does, after all, take comet-busting power.It is only one feat, multiple characters were there but it is just one feat.
Pyro’s seems pretty obvious, I don’t see how it is ridiculous.
The shockwave just knocking him back? He is knocked on his stomach and is groaning while smoke or steam comes from somewhere, he is clearly injured.
There is a few other statements too such as the city busting boast. Multi Continental isn’t exactly consistent.
As I said earlier, the chart is sort of a rough comparison I made. Based on the 2 scans. Cybertron is around the size of Unicron's torso in here. Earth is around the size of Unicron's hands in here. That is what the chart shows.I... what?
I'm not sure what you're asking me to calc here man. The two scans supposedly intended to give me size don't do anything of the sort, and you're telling me that your chart isn't to be used either? Where does the chart come from? How did you come up with it, and how is it supposed to help me calc this?
There's nothing obvious about Pyro. He came up with a fantasy situation where he's the hero who saves everyone, and estimated on the kilotons required to take him out. Even if Prime is injured, his armor is still completely intact. Perhaps his internal systems were damaged - the panel doesn't make it very clear. I see it more equal to a human having the wind knocked out of him that an actual injury.It is only one feat, multiple characters were there but it is just one feat.
Pyro’s seems pretty obvious, I don’t see how it is ridiculous.
The shockwave just knocking him back? He is knocked on his stomach and is groaning while smoke or steam comes from somewhere, he is clearly injured.
There is a few other statements too such as the city busting boast. Multi Continental isn’t exactly consistent.
Yeah, that estimate is consistent with the other lower-end feats. He should at least be able to estimate something like that. It should be accounted for.There's nothing obvious about Pyro. He came up with a fantasy situation where he's the hero who saves everyone, and estimated on the kilotons required to take him out. Even if Prime is injured, his armor is still completely intact. Perhaps his internal systems were damaged - the panel doesn't make it very clear. I see it more equal to a human having the wind knocked out of him that an actual injury.