Transformers General Discussion

[Primestar3]

That was a different instance. That one is from the final episode.

Regarding the final episode explosion, AllSpark Almanac says that even Megatron doesn't know how he survived that but thinks that AllSpark energies may have protected him to a point.

Though apparently no such explanation for the first one.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I think that was called and it yielded 7-A I think, I need to find the calc tho

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

David Kaye did a voice reading for the BW comic yooooo

 

[Primestar3]

In TLK, when Optimus arrived on Cybertron, there was a Nebuka in the background.

Was Optimus supposed to be inside the Sol System at the time or outside? I forgot. If it's the lattern, I think it's safe to say OP is FTL in flight speed.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Was he? I thought he went past saturn if I recall. I'mma rewatch it. And around that time, I think it was stated that cybertron entered the solar system

 

[Primestar3]

Closest Nebula to Earth is 700 lightyears away while OP got there in a few years IIRC.

 

[Primestar3]

Was he? I thought he went past saturn if I recall. I'mma rewatch it. And around that time, I think it was stated that cybertron entered the solar system

There was a planet that looks like Saturn but could be another planet.

Though I just remembered that IIRC, Cybertron was detected by humans at the very start of the movie. Not sure if they detected it inside the Sol system. Optimus arrived on Cybertron AFTER that.

So, if that's true, the Nebula background might be there just to look cool unfortunately, but I don't remember. I last watched this movie in full in the theaters.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

So apparently, around the time he crashed, Cybertron had recently entered the solar system. TLK takes place a 2 years after AOE according to TFwiki. And distance between Earth and edge of solar system is 40 trillion KM. That would make our speed: 1418656000 miles per hour or FTL. Seems legit

 

[Shadyboi0]

So apparently, around the time he crashed, Cybertron had recently entered the solar system. TLK takes place a 2 years after AOE according to TFwiki. And distance between Earth and edge of solar system is 40 trillion KM. That would make our speed: 1418656000 miles per hour or FTL. Seems legit

Isnt he like 2.11c?

 

[Primestar3]

So apparently, around the time he crashed, Cybertron had recently entered the solar system. TLK takes place a 2 years after AOE according to TFwiki. And distance between Earth and edge of solar system is 40 trillion KM. That would make our speed: 1418656000 miles per hour or FTL. Seems legit

Couldn't Cybertron just be moving very fast and so it just intercepted Optimus tho?

Also;


How far does Earth tech detect a planet? And can it detect it the way this tech does (zooming into the details of the planet like that)? Looks more high tech.

I checked the script but couldn't find any reference to the solar system.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Isnt he like 2.11c?

I think he's a bit more. But if we want to use 3 years by assuming that TLK takes place 3 years after AOE like in real life. We get 945770500 miles per hour or still FTL

 

[Shadyboi0]

Makes me happy that FTL face taker is possible

 

[Primestar3]

According to dialogus, Cybertron is movinf at 1/10th the speed of light.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Where? That would make Cybertron Sub-Relativistic+ or baseline relativistic

 

[Primestar3]

Where? That would make Cybertron Sub-Relativistic+ or baseline relativistic

I just looked at the online script, IDK the exact scene.

"What do you got for me?

It's an unmodelled perturbation mass...

Look at this. It's amazing this thing flies at all.

Is it some kind of neck cancer?

No. It's much worse than that.

It's a gravitational anomaly caused by a planet-sized object

with a current velocity of 1/10th light speed."

 

[Shadyboi0]

Did optimus hit cybertron at 1/10 SOL?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Kinda, He more or less got attracted by it's gravity.

 

[Shadyboi0]

Kinda, He more or less got attracted by it's gravity.

shouldn't we calc that?

 

[Primestar3]

I wish we knew how Quintessa was moving the planet. She had some telekinesis powers (flinging chains at OP), but I don't think it's explained anywhere.

 

[Shadyboi0]

If we do calc that then know AOE-TLK Optimus is 29'0 instead of 28'0.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

He wasn't really "hit" by it, he more or less just crashed into it. So the feat is inapplicable and completely worthless. And even if we were to assume it did hit him and he survived it. The result would be 2.68382E+15 J or roughly 6 Zettatons, moon level, which is a complete outlier

 

[Primestar3]

He wasn't really "hit" by it, he more or less just crashed into it. So the feat is inapplicable and completely worthless. And even if we were to assume it did hit him and he survived it. The result would be 2.68382E+15 J or roughly 6 Zettatons, moon level, which is a complete outlier

Can't Quintessa be pretty durable tho?

She had energy pass through her that could move continents. Not sure how energy passing through goes tho. Some say it could vary and is unknown, but I still felt like bringing it up just in case.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Can't Quintessa be pretty durable tho?

She had energy pass through her that could move continents. Not sure how energy passing through goes tho.

Under normal circumstances, yes, she'd be probably High 6-A for that feat, but Optimus being able to harm her show she's a glass cannon, so her dura doesn't scale

 

[Primestar3]

Blackout's shockwave looks pretty powerful.


Clearer version:

 

[Primestar3]

Completely blowing those big tents in the foreground from a distance.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I doubt being able to blow those tents up are anything beyond blackout's current rating which is 8-B, for blowing up 3 planes at omce

 

[Primestar3]

Starting from 6:08, his blast wipes out any structure it comes into contact with.

 

[Primestar3]

I doubt being able to blow those tents up are anything beyond blackout's current rating which is 8-B, for blowing up 3 planes at omce

Perhaps, but still thought worth mentioming.

 

[Primestar3]

Also, one other thing is that Decepticons triggered Krakatoa according to TLK.

It shows Megatron but that has to be someone else since MG waa frozen at that time.

IDK if they used some kind of superweapon but could be that lone robot since he was standing in front of that volcano, so there is that.

 

[LordTracer]

Aside from Megatron being frozen, that’s also his TLK design as opposed to his movie 1 design that he had when he first landed on Earth, so that’s pretty questionable.

 

[Primestar3]

Aside from Megatron being frozen, that’s also his TLK design as opposed to his movie 1 design that he had when he first landed on Earth, so that’s pretty questionable.

Yeah, that is why I said that can't literally be MG.

That doesn't mean Decep didn't trigger Krakatoa.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I mean, it's still fairly vague and we whether they would scale to anyone. Plus the whole history of transformers and earth in the TLK has a lot of questionable canoncity

 

[Primestar3]

I mean, it's still fairly vague and we whether they would scale to anyone. Plus the whole history of transformers and earth in the TLK has a lot of questionable canoncity

The history has been retconned but the intent is clear and canon still. I mean the secret history was a big part of TLK.

 

[LordTracer]

Also I’m not sure if causing the eruption would mean they actually scale to the eruption itself. And like Emirp said, we have no way of knowing if that Decepticon scales to anyone.

 

[Primestar3]

Also I’m not sure if causing the eruption would mean they actually scale to the eruption itself. And like Emirp said, we have no way of knowing if that Decepticon scales to anyone.

Well, they triggered the eruption, so whatever value that gives.

IDK if some superweapon was used but itnis not shown in the image. It could still be a feat for that Decepticon.

For what it's worth, Guardian Knights are elite TF, yet OP defeated them.

Though I do agree it's vague.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Join pls: https://vsbattles.com/threads/idw-soundwave-vs-616-iron-man.112975/

 

[Genericstickman]

I forgot to mention this but the new GS comic does give us a visualisation of The One In statue form so that’s neat

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Which? I probably missed it.

 

[LordTracer]

The IDW movie comics and his multiple “deaths” have caused me to acquire a new headcanon that Barricade has an immortal spark just like G1 Starscream, which is why he always comes back.

 

[Primestar3]

@Emirp sumitpo
If you notice, in the Blackout video, a truck in the background gets almost completely dissolved. Someone on CV who is good at math calced it to be 15 tons of TNT (he calced the distance to be about 40-41 meters).