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Transformers General Discussion
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I’m just wondering but what exactly is the resonaing for brawl(bay formers) tank mode being a M1 Abrams? Because I’ve looked at pics of his tank form and some M1 Abrams’s but they look a little different
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Not all M1 abrams look the same, afaik. but promotional material label him as an M1 abrams. Also his tank mode is clearly stylized, with the spikes on the front for instance
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Can you so me scans of said promotional material?
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I don'tt have scans unfortunately, but afaik, apparently some of his toys label him as an m1 abrams, according to TFwiki, he is an M1
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Ok, thanks then
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Following this thread. I'm all for any TF discussion.
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Cool
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Hell Yeah
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Goddamn, I'm still waiting on geting RID 2001's feats calced, as well as waiting to put the other multiversal profiles that have been siiting in the back doing nothing.
And I'm gonna do the dick move and skip the unicron trilogy, and just do galaxy force instead so I don't have to watch energon. I'm such a hack.
But if we were to do the unicron trilogy stuff. I feel that they need to be seperated, like what they do with Goku's profile.
And I'm gonna do the dick move and skip the unicron trilogy, and just do galaxy force instead so I don't have to watch energon. I'm such a hack.
But if we were to do the unicron trilogy stuff. I feel that they need to be seperated, like what they do with Goku's profile.
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Like UT and Micron trilogy?
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No. There's no micron trilogy. The unicron trilogy in japan was not even a trilogy, as galaxy force was intended to be a reboot, and sperate for micron legend and super link. Hasbro just decided to import it as a sequel. That's what differs galaxy force and cybertron. Energon and Armada don't have any significant if any differences from micron legend and super link to justify seperate profiles.
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Japan states otherwise.
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That was my point?
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Japan states that there is a trilogy. its in the timeline
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No, there isn't. Unless you can provide me a scan.
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I'm pretty sure that has been discarded by fans as being untrue, as it tries to connect UT to the Japanese G1 continuity. Galaxy force was made with the intention to be a reboot
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That is an offical timeline.
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It is, but that does not mean it doesn't have its own set of contradictions. That is literally the only thing that suggest galaxy force connects to the other shows. There are way more things that suggest galaxy force is seperate from the rest of micron legend and super link. Because it's simple, Galaxy force, just like the aligned continuity, is stuck together with other media because hasbro wanted them to be one universe despite the creators of those media never having that in mind.
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Understandable.
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In Kiss Players, Galaxy Force is seperate to G1 according to TFWiki.
Also, in that chart Shadey Boi posted, UT is seperate from G1. It has no lines connecting it to G1, unlike stuff like Headmasters. So, the chart is still valid.
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It's still the only thing that connects Galaxy force to the micron legend continuity. Pretty much a lot of other things contreadict that, plus the fact that the showrunners very likely didn't intend for Galaxy force to be connected to the show before it.
This isn't the first time Hasbro or Takara has tried to shoehorn 2 seperate things into one continuity
This isn't the first time Hasbro or Takara has tried to shoehorn 2 seperate things into one continuity
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Well, it's Takara's word. These timelines are supposed to be valid. Takara is very consistent when it comes to its timelines that even pack-in manga follows them and try to explain continuity errors of fiction from decades ago. Unlike Hasbro with Aligned, Takara is adamant when it comes to timelines.
I've heard on TFWiki that GF was always supposed to be connected but then was turned into a reboot and then retconned back into ML. Not aure how true that is but just putting it out there.
Also, if the Balancing Act is to be believed, Unicron Singularity messes up the timeline, so that could exolain the continuity errors.
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I'm pretty sure that one explains the Cybertron, but not galaxy force. It's made very clear that the Japanese and american dubs are 2 seperate universes. Even Micron legend is listed as seperate from Galaxy Force.
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Source? I can't find such a thing
Takara retcons their timelines a lot, and it makes it even more confusing. They don't exactly "fix" anything
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Nevermind, I found it. It was originally gonna be a sequel, but that plan got cancelled and they hit the reboot button. Similar to the bumblebee movie and the beyverse one.
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As I told you before, JM himself said that universal streams aren't necessarily universes. But even if that was the case, that doesn't prevent GF from happening in both MD and its own timeline. Something can happen in two different worlds. And there are many examples for that.
"Takara retcons their timelines a lot, and it makes it even more confusing. They don't exactly "fix" anything"
They don't tend to remove what story they add, they just add to things. And GF being canon to MD has not been retconndd, so...
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@Emirp sumitpo
AFAIK, the only story they added and then removed from JG1 was the first Bay movie.
AFAIK, the only story they added and then removed from JG1 was the first Bay movie.
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True, but is that proof that the 2 are 100 percent canon.
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I think yes unless said otherwise.
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Still tho, the end product still contradicts many of what happens in Energon. Just like how Prime contradicts many things that happen in WFC. If we were to go with the mindset 2 things happening in one timeline, we would have a lot of of composite profiles, which are generally banned. Like with that in mind, I can put together both Marvel G1 and G1 cartoon Optimus despite the 2 showing vastly different feats.
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Also, how stromg is normal GF Megatron?
I've seen him destroy a planrt but that was apparently a really small planet (like, bulding sized and also full of volatile energon).
I've hears that he survived the enrrgon star that destroyed a solar system sized pocket dimension. IDK how much he would be tanking from that.
I've heard that he couldn't blow up a small asteroid.
I've seen him tank a punch from OP that sent him to the moon.
Also, I remember some robot get damaged by re-entry in the first episode.
I've hears that Galvatron survived Multiversal collapse (universal in the show).
I've seen him destroy a planrt but that was apparently a really small planet (like, bulding sized and also full of volatile energon).
I've hears that he survived the enrrgon star that destroyed a solar system sized pocket dimension. IDK how much he would be tanking from that.
I've heard that he couldn't blow up a small asteroid.
I've seen him tank a punch from OP that sent him to the moon.
Also, I remember some robot get damaged by re-entry in the first episode.
I've hears that Galvatron survived Multiversal collapse (universal in the show).
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Not necessarily.
For Marvel, the 86 movie or the comic adaptstion is canon. Nothing else from the cartoon. That's not really composite.
If GF is canon to MD, then that's just how it is.
Bay films haopen in the IDW movie comics.
BW cartoon is canon to IDW BW.
It's just how it is, these specific stories are canon to two universes.
It's not really composite.
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I dunno, I remember tier 5 to 4 stuff in GF, but I don't recall tier 3 tbh.
No? This shows a lot of contradictions between both shows.
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That list seems to be for the Cybertron version. If the US version is accepted as the UT trilogy with all those continuity errors, then the same can be done for MD after the timeline retcon.
Especially if Hasbro's explanation with the Unicron Singularity counts for the Takara one (Takara does acknowledge the US fiction in their stories, so it would 't be too much of a stretch).
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It applies for the Japanese dub, because Galaxy force doesn't have many translational differences than cybertron, except cybertron has some things as an attempt to connect previous shows iirc.
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