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I guess so? I'm not fully sure where devastator stands on the scaling chart
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Definitely. If Mudflap and Skids could **** him up, then someone who can smack Base Optimus and Megatron could definitely do the same.Would Create-A-Bot beat Devastator?
Who are you reffering too?Do you think that 07/DOTM>AOE/TLK by feats or no?
Everyone.Who are you reffering too?
There is only one instance of that. The others are just him attacking Optimus, which doesn't do much to OP. OP ragdolled BB more, and the results were much more devastating. BB lost his Doors, and an entire arm after OP's beatdown.There are some spots where bee just overpowers prime, such him knocking him down.
I'm not sure about that
They definitely did. Megs pinned Prime with a single arm and Barricade was surviving attacks from nigh-Optimus level beings, something he couldn’t have done in the 2007-DotM era.I think that both Megatron and Barricade got stronger on TLK
Prime got way stronger in DOTM then ROTF. I do agree on bumblebee though.Only bumblebee gets certainly stronger, I still don't think Optimus progressively stronger as the films progress
Any evidence that he got way stronger?Prime got way stronger in DOTM then ROTF. I do agree on bumblebee though.
All of his new weapons and the jetwing,Any evidence that he got way stronger?
New equipment doesn't imply his base self got strongerAll of his new weapons and the jetwing,
Never mind , that is why i deleted my comment.That still doesn't make him deserve new keys. The current one is fine: Low 7-C, higher with Jetfire's parts or Flight Tech
How does that prove Sentinel > Lockdown exactly?Sentinel should be above lockdown because of this
Well, Optimus, who has some knowledge of the Cybertronian Tech and Megatron himself, thinks such a feat is plausible.The key word is "probably". The rotf games are too similar to the movie counterparts to justify new keys.
That's class 100, lower than class M
Bumblebee overpowers Optimus in majority of his fight in tlk and fared better against lockdownI’d say: TLK Megatron > Lockdown ≈ Sentinel Prime >= AoE-TLK Optimus = RotF-DotM Optimus >= AoE-TLK Bumblebee
It depends IMO, Sentinel has better showings against Optimus on Close Combat, so I think he has the advantage on that, if speaking of ranged options, Sentinel has his rust gun, but powerwise, Lockdown has his Face Gun, but apparently he only uses to snipe targets, so it probably really that good on CQCI think Lockdown would beat Sentinel in a straight up fight, though it would be a difficult fight.
Except, the rotf game aren't that different from the movie counterparts, it seems to only apply for the rotf game, such a statement was never said in the movies
Ok, I'm just saying in case a key is made.I'm not saying he's not MFTL, I'm saying the MFTL thing is only for the ROTF game counterpart, and not the Movie one. Still doesn't justify a new key for Megatron
I stated why I don't think that is the case some replies earlier, and the latter is not trueBumblebee overpowers Optimus in majority of his fight in tlk and fared better against lockdown
Also why 2 keys for Optimus?I’d say: TLK Megatron > Lockdown ≈ Sentinel Prime >= AoE-TLK Optimus = RotF-DotM Optimus >= AoE-TLK Bumblebee