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I am not a Staff Member obviously but Ultima and Wokistan both agreed to Type 3. The only person opposing this is Matt, so it looks like most people and Staff on the thread are for Type 3 Transduality WoD.
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Transdualism in WoD
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More repetition rather than concrete arguements. Although it's what I expected.
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The premise is that WoD has Type 3 Transduality, so due to this various being in the franchise should be 1-A. For conclusions I believe @Ultima Reality and @Wokista are fine with a 1-A upgrade, but did recommend that Udl contact @DarkLK , @Sera EX, and @Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot since they're more experienced with the 1-A rating.Antvasima said:
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Ultima never said he was fine with 1-A, people keep putting words in his mouth.
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Isn't it possible to have type 3 and not be 1-A?
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"Nevertheless, I do believe WoD does qualify for Type 3 Transduality now, looking at those scans, and by extension, 1-A."
This is what he said verbatim.
This is what he said verbatim.
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Talking with Ultima on Discord I know that he only said that because debating with Udl was such a headache he didn't want to bother anymore. Which is how Udl handles all his threads, Argumentum Ad Exhastion.
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If Ultima comes here himself and says that then sure. He didn't agree. At least he actually debates the topic.
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Ultima wouldn't agree if he never did and just didn't want to debate it anymore. He would just leave.
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Okay, Matthew, can you stop your personal attacks against me.
Just because I can handle your arguments and give counter points doesn't mean I'm being dishonest, and all you're doing is pulling a red herring and trying to discredit your detractors.
Do you have a valid reason for all this or are you going to keep making personal attacks?
Just because I can handle your arguments and give counter points doesn't mean I'm being dishonest, and all you're doing is pulling a red herring and trying to discredit your detractors.
Do you have a valid reason for all this or are you going to keep making personal attacks?
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And furthermore, in response to your "Debunked time and time again" it wasn't debunked, the last 1-A WoD thread was closed because we were supposed to debate on Discord, but you chose not to debate me and tried to proxy via Assault.
So, please dont make false accounts of what happened.
So, please dont make false accounts of what happened.
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@Ant The only real people arguing against this were Ultima and Matt. Now it's Ultima who eventually agreed until futher notice. Wokistan agreed. As did other users. The only person expressing opposition is Matt who isn't ever going to agree. I don't think this is any basis for not allowing it. If you want futher input we can just wait.
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I never said that, though? I just said that I was unsure if 1-A WoD would actually get past other Staff Members who are way more rigid about this stuff than me. You must have misinterpreted my wording.Matthew Schroeder said:
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It's not based on arguing relentlessly, its due to the fact ive proven that they transcend the Concept of Duality which is 1-A, the fact that they transcend a Nigh-Infinite collection of Platonic concepts and Nigh-Infinite Collection of Archetypal lies.Antvasima said:
I myself have spoken with Ultima on discord as well, and he never said all this stuff that Matthew is claiming.
It appears that he cannot formulate a proper argument against this so is going for personal attacks and attempts to discredit me.
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Well, I suppose that there seems to be reasonable support for this then, but I would still prefer some input from the 4 members who actually properly understand these concepts. You can tell them that I sent you if you wish.
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This is going to be my last post here.Matthew Schroeder said:
Now, I'd like to point out that all of the relentless trashtalking that you get from both within and outside of the Wiki is really uncalled for, mostly. But, putting it bluntly here, the attitude you've been continuously showcasing as of late really doesn't help your case.
This isn't the first time you've just popped into a thread just to make pseudo-arguments of like 3 short paragraphs and then remain silent, or to just call a user biased or something of the sort. Being extra blunt here, yes Udl has attitude problems and can come off as pretty damn arrogant when debating, but you are an Admninistrator; You are supposed to keep users and threads much worse than him from going rampant, not act exactly like them. This is just making you seem no different from like, SeryuShin or some dumb staff from the dark ages.
For real Matt, you're better than this :c
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I will say what I type gets lost in translation, and without inflection, i sound livid, but me and Qa are (I'd like to say) friends and we've been debating with each other non-stop for 2 days.
I dont sound as angry as I come off in text, I sound more tired/half-asleep more than anything XD
I dont sound as angry as I come off in text, I sound more tired/half-asleep more than anything XD
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i sound livid, but me and Qa are (I'd like to say) friends and we've been debating with each other non-stop for 2 days.
A bit off topic, but yeah I think we're on good terms. Even if I find how you scale things to be a bit frustrating at times. Text just has no personality associated with it, so its easy to misunderstand something or get further frustrated in a continuous debate; especially if it goes on for awhile.
But on topic less stop with the personal attacks.
A bit off topic, but yeah I think we're on good terms. Even if I find how you scale things to be a bit frustrating at times. Text just has no personality associated with it, so its easy to misunderstand something or get further frustrated in a continuous debate; especially if it goes on for awhile.
But on topic less stop with the personal attacks.
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Remember then i told you that if you get more scans and stuff you might be able to proof 1A in chat? Yeah, mistakes have been made...
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Oh, no no no no no no no no no no
I stay away from this train.
I stay away from this train conceptually. And besides that, my opinion isnt asked on this matter
I stay away from this train.
I stay away from this train conceptually. And besides that, my opinion isnt asked on this matter
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.....sorry, this is too hilarious xDUdlmaster said:
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