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Top 5 Strongest Characters for Every Tier Part 6
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That literally means nothing. And it's still 1-B.Sandman31 said:
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Bard got knocked down to High 4-C from 3-B btw
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Problems with the 3-B feats he was scaled to
So where does he stand against the current contenders?
So where does he stand against the current contenders?
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Caine and Lilith are a big no. Can he even interact with Iwan or do something to Rimuru? Can he bypass Meng Hao's Low-Godly?
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Likely not gonna be in the list as the 4th and 5th placeholders are already going through a lot of revisions and has broken hax of their own
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@Ion Looking through all of their profiles Rimuru doesnt have a resistance to his go-to sealing ability and neither does Meng
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Oh, someone i can finally throw a tensei character who isn't Rimuru at maybe?
Lets see how he would do against Gii Crimson (Web Novel) or Velzard (Web Novel)
Maybe i can also throw Leylin Farlier at him, he probably also deserves a spot for High 4-C.
Lets see how he would do against Gii Crimson (Web Novel) or Velzard (Web Novel)
Maybe i can also throw Leylin Farlier at him, he probably also deserves a spot for High 4-C.
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@CP why not Diablo?
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Diablo has already had a few matches, was just naming ppl who haven't had much.
We could even use Zegion (Web Novel).
We could even use Zegion (Web Novel).
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Hoping Bard has the goods though cause:
Gii copies ppl's abilities who resist power mimicry.
Velzard power nulls ppl who resist power null.
Zegion traps ppl in illusions and copies their abilities who resists illusions and power mimicry.
Velgrynd has status inducement effect which causes her opponents magic to go wild, and weaken her opponents when they try to regain control over it, again works on ppl who resist, and she also has attacks which exceed space-time.
Veldora is well Veldora, unless you have space-time exceeding attacks he keeps sending clones and you can't kill him unless you kill 2-B Rimuru.
Gii copies ppl's abilities who resist power mimicry.
Velzard power nulls ppl who resist power null.
Zegion traps ppl in illusions and copies their abilities who resists illusions and power mimicry.
Velgrynd has status inducement effect which causes her opponents magic to go wild, and weaken her opponents when they try to regain control over it, again works on ppl who resist, and she also has attacks which exceed space-time.
Veldora is well Veldora, unless you have space-time exceeding attacks he keeps sending clones and you can't kill him unless you kill 2-B Rimuru.
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I've Watched Tensei'OAV, I love Diablo now lol
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@TheCausality Well Diablo is one of fav characters in the series, can't wait till he gets some more spotlight in volume 7.
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I'm pretty sure that means that it doesn't treat dimensionality as a concept as fiction, but that from the perspective of a higher layer - the dimensional levels below are like fiction.Sandman31 said:
Instead of it transcending the concept of dimensions - each layer is a cluster of a finite amount of dimensions.
If there are infinite layers, that just means that it is High 1-B.
And if the Whale transcends that, that would just make him higher into High 1-B - not 1-A.
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What the hell are 2-A's in SMT made of? Considering that even the monstruosities in Madoka, BB and Sonic are apparently nothing in comparison.
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If/when the Animal Man revison goes through he'll probably take the 9-B top spot.
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Someone mentioned in a thread that Naofumi deserved a spot on this list, so I made this match: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3063409
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Nope it. At the end of the series. The entire story of Unwritten itself became fiction and was moved in a lower world. That already makes a single world having infinite layers.The story of the Unwritten now only exists as fictionWarren Valion said:
Also, yea, they do literally treat dimensionality as nothing but fiction in upper worlds. Remember the one who wrote the world of Tommy Taylord/The Tommy Taylor series is not high powered beings just a simple man writing his novels. But due to the difference between worlds the things he have written simply created a new world including its dimensions lower in the hierarchy. Its the way the verse works.
Also, no, the dimensions below wasnt simply "viewed" it was written into existence.I would have agreed with you if its just viewed but no, but it wasnt.
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The only thing this means is that instead of each layer having a difference on numerous finite dimensions - they have a difference of infinite dimensions each. Infinite layers which are comprised of infinite dimensionsSandman31 said:
Which would make the Whale probably the strongest High 1-B on the site since it transcends this infinite hierarchy.
Similar in concept, to beings like the Downstreamers from the Manifold Trilogy and Aka from The Elder Scrolls.
I don't really buy it being 1-A though.
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The layers treats the lower worlds as nothing but fiction. He wrote the dimensionality of the lower worlds. The dimesionality of the lower world sis simply fiction to them. Its not a set hierarchy, and its not something like the hierarchy of Downstreamers, its more like Akuto Sai's hierarchy where fiction creates more fiction. The hierarchy of Downstreamers doesnt treat the lower layers as fiction
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Youre treating as if its hierarchy like the DS, or where each layer has this set number of dimensions per layer where its a hierarchy of reality/fiction. The lower world could have infinite dimensions and the upper world has only three but that doesnt really matter because its simply fiction to the residents of the upper wolrd
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Treating a lower layer as fiction is the most basic way of showing transcendence in fiction. The difference can be seen basically everywhere. As a reality-fiction difference is the basis for most if not all Composite Hierarchies.Sandman31 said:
Look at something like the Gods form Magi - where each higher-dimension has a god that looks and perceives the lower layer's god as nothing more than ficition.
The difference bewteen the Magi Heirarchy and the The Unwritten hierarchy is that the difference between layers isn't a single dimension, but an infinite number of them - again, making The Whale probably the strongest High 1-B on the site.
It doesn't mean that The Whale is 1-A though.
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Is stil not reallt the same. Magi has a "set" hierarchy. Which is what I said before, the Magi gods see the lower worlds as fiction because of their place in hierarchy. The Unwritten doesnt exactly work like that because the lower layers were created by the people of higher layers. Magi gods views the lower world as fiction and treats it like that. But the ones from Unwritten created the fiction. You havent really showed any comparison that actually fits
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That would mean that The Whale is weaker than I believe, if anything.Sandman31 said:
Let's say one layer had five dimensions while the next highest layer only had three.
Those three dimensions are still transcendent over the lower layers five dimensions - meaning all in total - you would have eight consecutive dimensions.
It doesn't mean that the second layer is 1-A because it transcends the first, it just means the dimensions found in the higher layer are transcendent of those in the lower layer. There needs to be more proof to be considered 1-A.
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Creating a lower world that you view as fiction isn't this ultimate feat, dude.Sandman31 said:
If you transcend a person with a reality-fiction like difference, then the people below you are literally like fiction to you.
The ones from the Unwritten "creating the fiction" just means that they made a lower world - which isn't an impressive feat at all.
That's like saying that a High 2-A creating and transcending a 2-A multiverse is impressive but on a much higher scale, it isn't - it's basis of their rating in the first place.
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I wouldn't know specifically since I've never read/watched Magi, but the AP section says that each lower god is bound by the destiny created for them by a higher god:Sandman31 said:
"Attack Potency: Varies (A smaller god like Il Ilah was kept as a pet inside an aquarium by a superior god), up to Hyperverse level (There are "countless hyperspaces" and each dimension contains a god, for a superior god the lower world is as insignificant as fiction. The hierarchy of gods is infinite and in all these infinite dimensions every god is bound by destiny made by a superior god)."
So I would say yes to your question. Since it seems each higher god is writing the reality for the lower god.
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A crt thread would probably be better for this discussion.
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Thats really not how the Unwritten cosmology works. Yes, those 3 dimensions transcends the lower 5 dimensions. But are those 3 higher dimensions the source of the dimensionality of the lower 5? Does the 3 dimensions can exist without the lower 3? The answer is no.
