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Introductio
If you are aware of news regarding Digimon on this Wikia, you should know that there is a major review planned to deal with the structure of the franchise as a whole.
For us to prepare for this I have created several Digimon blogs that I suggest read in due time so that all the points are understood, of course in this thread there will be a total summary of what I wrote.
In its origin Digimon began as a franchise of digital monsters that were born when computer viruses spread through the network and used design known as humans to create a texture around its wire frame.
This was the original Digimon origin established at its inception and used as the basis of most of the V-Pets lore, the original World series, manga like V-Tamer and anime like Digimon Tamers.
In the creation of the anime Digimon Adventure, the main director Hiroyuki Kakudō decided to establish a new origin story for the Digimon to leave his most complete work (And also because he found certain details of the original story as being very weak).
In this new establishment the Digimon are older than the humans, being in fact primordial souls that existed in Idea, the true form of the world. These beings lived apart from our world, which would only be a shadow of Idea. However, from time to time there were distortions in the World's Balance that made the worlds come into contact with each other.
Sometimes these distortions are detected by humans in some way and in the past primordial souls were interpreted as ghosts or deities by the way they acted through distortions. Nowadays electronic devices are very sensitive to these distortions, and because of this when a soul is perceived through these devices they end up being interpreted as computer viruses.
The explanation by this story of why the Digimon act like Digimon, rather than primordial beings older than the humans, is because of a feed feedback from the Digimon and the Digital World with Humans. The Digimon feed on human thoughts, their emotions because of the nature of the world that was created through the emotions of light and darkness and some Digimon are more sensitive to one emotion or another. A Digimon can end up binding to a human and adapting to human thinking, which may end up influencing the Digimon to act in a way. Consequently, for the Digital World everything that exists is equivalent to Data, including human thought and history itself. Then, the collective consciousness of humans can agree on something, this ends up being read by the Digital World and ends up changing the Digital World itself. The reason the Digimon act the way human hope, it is because the collective consciousness changed history so that souls were really always Digimon and they began to do so following the common sense of human, just like the Digital World was always a virtual space than a primordial world beyond our level of existence.
Basically this story does not deny the others, it just says that the story of products like Digimon Tamers, V-Tamer and others treating Digimon as virtual beings and the Digital World as a computer world is actually the result of a rewriting of history at level cosmic that altered how the worlds behave and made them adapt to the way the humans of our era.
Structure
The structure of Digimon Multiverse is based on a neo-platonic emanationist cosmology. Basically the structure of existence is divided into several layers with a physical and metaphysical difference between the layers.
Let us say that we humans are material beings with bodies composed of atoms, but we still have a soul that we are not able to interact with, it is metaphysical. In an emanationist cosmology our world is located in a layer, in a layer above ours the souls are physical as our bodies in our layer, but these souls happen to have a new metaphysical correspondent just as the physical body had the soul.
To each level of existence, there is a higher level with this physical/metaphysical difference. Our physical bodies have souls, souls have other souls (I will call the Second Soul), the Second Soul has a Third Soul, and so on.
Digimon follows the same cosmology, the world is structured in a Multilayered Hierarchy. We humans exist in what is known as the "Physical World", above this layer there are numerous other layers (At least 6) that exist between the level of existence of the Humans and Digimon.
The Digital World itself also has numerous layers with the deities residing at the highest levels being Yggdrasil the top of that.
Above the Digital World there are still other layers like the World of Eaters and several others that we just do not know.
What this entails in Digimon profiles
Currently Digimon profiles have a lot of confusion about it. The Digital World is not just a parallel world, a world that transcends the Real World on various levels of existence, something that is virtually ignored in the profiles.
Let's start by talking about AP, since this is the topic I want to end soon. The Physical Layer is a conventional multiverse, it is infinite, it has infinite timelines for infinite possibilities that can sometimes be repeated. This multiverse follows interpretations of the quantum mechanics of overlapping worlds for every existing possibility and then it is established that there are infinites, very simple.
However, this is only the first layer of the Hierarchy of Worlds. Above this there are six other layers to then reach the lowest level of the Digital World where there are several other layers to reach the level of the deities, with each layer having its own multiverse following the complication of parallel worlds and the Chronicle Layer System. There are multiple layers of multiverse until you reach the level of the God Tiers.
Currently the God Tiers are in 2-A because of the feats of destroying the Digital World taking into account that the Digital World is infinite containing servers that are isolated worlds with a past, present and future system that allows all to exist simultaneously in the same instant, and yet new ones are created every moment through Host Computer calculations. What is justifiable, however, there is no indication of all the complex Hierarchy of Worlds that exists until you reach the most basic level of the Digital World and we still have to take into account the level of the God Tiers that exist in the most complex level of existence.
It's literally a completely different level from what's being adopted in the profiles.
Finally, talk about the very existence of the Digimon. Currently, Digimon profiles take into account the body, soul and mind union of the human perspective as a single thing in the Digital World. Which is something legitimate, however this is only showing a tiny part of what this is.
In the cosmology upon which Digimon is based, the metaphysician of a world becomes something merely physical in a higher world. Which means that in a higher world our souls would be completely physical to the inhabitants of this plane of existence just as our physical bodies are to us in our plane of existence.
In Digimon, there is a process known as Digitize from which human matter, mind or even human soul becomes something Digital, this is because the human body is unable to exist at these levels of existence and therefore end up being transformed into data for protection . For example, in Digimon travel through space-time are impossible for physical bodies, so when someone travels through space-time it has its existence converted into a digital entity while this is occurring.
For the Digimon, all matter, soul or mind of humans is just something physical, or even less than physical since they exist on a level completely above humans in several higher layers. Which means that the Digimon are not physical beings for us, but metaphysical. What we see in the Human World are not really the Digimon. In places where the distortions occur occurs a phenomenon known as Realise in which free matter of our world begins to clump around the distortions and follows the true form of the Digimon through these Digimon until it is possible to identify something equivalent to the Digimon in our world, but these bodies are not the real bodies of a Digimon, but rather false bodies that merely follow the wills of the Digimon. Under normal conditions if a Digimon really entered our world, the distortions should be large enough for the whole world to be destroyed.
In the most drastic of situations, what happens is that the Physical World itself is covered by the Digital World which ends up making everything in that world in data, completely destroying the physical laws to put into practice the laws of the Digital World.
Conclusion
With that I conclude that the Digital World is much more than the profiles show and the Digimon are much more complex than it seems.
Basically the Tier level of the God Tiers is greatly reduced, not taking into account all the complexity until it reaches their level. Their level is much higher and metaphysical than it is there.
And the Digimon should not continue to be treated as "physical beings that can affect minds and souls," they are so from our point of view because of the innumerable factors that occur to justify the interaction of a Digimon with something of our world, but in the most natural of them, they are completely metaphysical and beyond the laws of our world.
At best, there could be a key with the limited form of the Digimon in our world, but this is certainly not to be a priority over their true form that exists far beyond the physical bodies. (That is, I agree with notes that explain the interaction of humans with metaphysical beings with the profiles making clear the metaphysical nature of the Digimon, but not with the profiles ignoring the metaphysical nature and only using the explanations that make the relations between humans and Digimon in a fairer way).
I propose at least a better explanation of the tiers taking into account the nature of the Digital World or whatever the level of existence of the character/feat in question is. The same for the metaphysical nature of the Digimon.
In most cases, it is possible to discuss a change of the Tier of the Digimon according to the structure of the Hierarchy of Worlds, I do not know much how this Wikia takes into account all this.
If you are aware of news regarding Digimon on this Wikia, you should know that there is a major review planned to deal with the structure of the franchise as a whole.
For us to prepare for this I have created several Digimon blogs that I suggest read in due time so that all the points are understood, of course in this thread there will be a total summary of what I wrote.
- History of the Digimon Franchise: Important to understand the change in the structure of Digimon's narrative during the creation of Anime and then the return of this narrative during the Xros Wars era;
- Souls, Ideas, Mythology: Explanation of Digimon's occult narrative based on neo-platonic emanationist theorists;
- World Hierarchy: Digimon cosmology structure based on neo-platonic emanationism;
- Digimon Gods: Establishment of the divine hierarchy of Digimon, a deepening of the layers of gods present in the previous blog;
- Power of Darkness: Further explanation of the power of darkness in Digimon;
- Data: A better demonstration of how Digimon works and the characteristics of a neo-platonic emanationist cosmology.
In its origin Digimon began as a franchise of digital monsters that were born when computer viruses spread through the network and used design known as humans to create a texture around its wire frame.
This was the original Digimon origin established at its inception and used as the basis of most of the V-Pets lore, the original World series, manga like V-Tamer and anime like Digimon Tamers.
In the creation of the anime Digimon Adventure, the main director Hiroyuki Kakudō decided to establish a new origin story for the Digimon to leave his most complete work (And also because he found certain details of the original story as being very weak).
In this new establishment the Digimon are older than the humans, being in fact primordial souls that existed in Idea, the true form of the world. These beings lived apart from our world, which would only be a shadow of Idea. However, from time to time there were distortions in the World's Balance that made the worlds come into contact with each other.
Sometimes these distortions are detected by humans in some way and in the past primordial souls were interpreted as ghosts or deities by the way they acted through distortions. Nowadays electronic devices are very sensitive to these distortions, and because of this when a soul is perceived through these devices they end up being interpreted as computer viruses.
The explanation by this story of why the Digimon act like Digimon, rather than primordial beings older than the humans, is because of a feed feedback from the Digimon and the Digital World with Humans. The Digimon feed on human thoughts, their emotions because of the nature of the world that was created through the emotions of light and darkness and some Digimon are more sensitive to one emotion or another. A Digimon can end up binding to a human and adapting to human thinking, which may end up influencing the Digimon to act in a way. Consequently, for the Digital World everything that exists is equivalent to Data, including human thought and history itself. Then, the collective consciousness of humans can agree on something, this ends up being read by the Digital World and ends up changing the Digital World itself. The reason the Digimon act the way human hope, it is because the collective consciousness changed history so that souls were really always Digimon and they began to do so following the common sense of human, just like the Digital World was always a virtual space than a primordial world beyond our level of existence.
Basically this story does not deny the others, it just says that the story of products like Digimon Tamers, V-Tamer and others treating Digimon as virtual beings and the Digital World as a computer world is actually the result of a rewriting of history at level cosmic that altered how the worlds behave and made them adapt to the way the humans of our era.
Structure
The structure of Digimon Multiverse is based on a neo-platonic emanationist cosmology. Basically the structure of existence is divided into several layers with a physical and metaphysical difference between the layers.
Let us say that we humans are material beings with bodies composed of atoms, but we still have a soul that we are not able to interact with, it is metaphysical. In an emanationist cosmology our world is located in a layer, in a layer above ours the souls are physical as our bodies in our layer, but these souls happen to have a new metaphysical correspondent just as the physical body had the soul.
To each level of existence, there is a higher level with this physical/metaphysical difference. Our physical bodies have souls, souls have other souls (I will call the Second Soul), the Second Soul has a Third Soul, and so on.
Digimon follows the same cosmology, the world is structured in a Multilayered Hierarchy. We humans exist in what is known as the "Physical World", above this layer there are numerous other layers (At least 6) that exist between the level of existence of the Humans and Digimon.
The Digital World itself also has numerous layers with the deities residing at the highest levels being Yggdrasil the top of that.
Above the Digital World there are still other layers like the World of Eaters and several others that we just do not know.
What this entails in Digimon profiles
Currently Digimon profiles have a lot of confusion about it. The Digital World is not just a parallel world, a world that transcends the Real World on various levels of existence, something that is virtually ignored in the profiles.
Let's start by talking about AP, since this is the topic I want to end soon. The Physical Layer is a conventional multiverse, it is infinite, it has infinite timelines for infinite possibilities that can sometimes be repeated. This multiverse follows interpretations of the quantum mechanics of overlapping worlds for every existing possibility and then it is established that there are infinites, very simple.
However, this is only the first layer of the Hierarchy of Worlds. Above this there are six other layers to then reach the lowest level of the Digital World where there are several other layers to reach the level of the deities, with each layer having its own multiverse following the complication of parallel worlds and the Chronicle Layer System. There are multiple layers of multiverse until you reach the level of the God Tiers.
Currently the God Tiers are in 2-A because of the feats of destroying the Digital World taking into account that the Digital World is infinite containing servers that are isolated worlds with a past, present and future system that allows all to exist simultaneously in the same instant, and yet new ones are created every moment through Host Computer calculations. What is justifiable, however, there is no indication of all the complex Hierarchy of Worlds that exists until you reach the most basic level of the Digital World and we still have to take into account the level of the God Tiers that exist in the most complex level of existence.
It's literally a completely different level from what's being adopted in the profiles.
Finally, talk about the very existence of the Digimon. Currently, Digimon profiles take into account the body, soul and mind union of the human perspective as a single thing in the Digital World. Which is something legitimate, however this is only showing a tiny part of what this is.
In the cosmology upon which Digimon is based, the metaphysician of a world becomes something merely physical in a higher world. Which means that in a higher world our souls would be completely physical to the inhabitants of this plane of existence just as our physical bodies are to us in our plane of existence.
In Digimon, there is a process known as Digitize from which human matter, mind or even human soul becomes something Digital, this is because the human body is unable to exist at these levels of existence and therefore end up being transformed into data for protection . For example, in Digimon travel through space-time are impossible for physical bodies, so when someone travels through space-time it has its existence converted into a digital entity while this is occurring.
For the Digimon, all matter, soul or mind of humans is just something physical, or even less than physical since they exist on a level completely above humans in several higher layers. Which means that the Digimon are not physical beings for us, but metaphysical. What we see in the Human World are not really the Digimon. In places where the distortions occur occurs a phenomenon known as Realise in which free matter of our world begins to clump around the distortions and follows the true form of the Digimon through these Digimon until it is possible to identify something equivalent to the Digimon in our world, but these bodies are not the real bodies of a Digimon, but rather false bodies that merely follow the wills of the Digimon. Under normal conditions if a Digimon really entered our world, the distortions should be large enough for the whole world to be destroyed.
In the most drastic of situations, what happens is that the Physical World itself is covered by the Digital World which ends up making everything in that world in data, completely destroying the physical laws to put into practice the laws of the Digital World.
Conclusion
With that I conclude that the Digital World is much more than the profiles show and the Digimon are much more complex than it seems.
Basically the Tier level of the God Tiers is greatly reduced, not taking into account all the complexity until it reaches their level. Their level is much higher and metaphysical than it is there.
And the Digimon should not continue to be treated as "physical beings that can affect minds and souls," they are so from our point of view because of the innumerable factors that occur to justify the interaction of a Digimon with something of our world, but in the most natural of them, they are completely metaphysical and beyond the laws of our world.
At best, there could be a key with the limited form of the Digimon in our world, but this is certainly not to be a priority over their true form that exists far beyond the physical bodies. (That is, I agree with notes that explain the interaction of humans with metaphysical beings with the profiles making clear the metaphysical nature of the Digimon, but not with the profiles ignoring the metaphysical nature and only using the explanations that make the relations between humans and Digimon in a fairer way).
I propose at least a better explanation of the tiers taking into account the nature of the Digital World or whatever the level of existence of the character/feat in question is. The same for the metaphysical nature of the Digimon.
In most cases, it is possible to discuss a change of the Tier of the Digimon according to the structure of the Hierarchy of Worlds, I do not know much how this Wikia takes into account all this.
