Top 5 Strongest Characters for Every Tier 36

[Ned_the_outer_god]

personally i think the high elder gods should have low 1-A for being above the low elders

on 3812s profile it says this "Completely superseded the primary narrative which contains the whole of the SCP Multiverse, whose full extent has been described as possessing uncountably infinite higher dimensions"

That isn't high 1-A though, and being above High 1-Bs=/=low 1-A

 

[Pepsiman25th]

i said high elder gods should be low 1-A not high

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Adam for the 5h spot in Low 5B.

 

[Psychomaster35]

Announcer for 3rd High 7-C spot with speed unequalized. He is able to blitz Han even after that thought based 100x speed amp through time, and he contains Budget Cuts which erases things out of the episode with a thought through Reality Warping.

 

[Planck69]

Gongsun Wan'er for 4th 4-A. She has virtually all of Bai's powers and Bai himself got upgraded to 3-B.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Well, since Arceus has been upgraded, he should be added to the 5th spot in 2-A, and put Ainchase Ishmael with him, since I don't think Arceus could deal with abstract existence Type 1 of a type 2, and NEP1. Could be wrong though.

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

Well, since Arceus has been upgraded, he should be added to the 5th spot in 2-A, and put Ainchase Ishmael with him, since I don't think Arceus could deal with abstract existence Type 1 of a type 2, and NEP1. Could be wrong though.

Arceus probably can't beat the non smurf list currently (except Marvel), probably should go there.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Actually, since Arceus is 5th in 2-B, Ain chase should be there as well, since neither can affect the other.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Don't think Arceus gets 5th in 2-A, especially without type 2 concept hax.

There is Yogiri for example, i can even argue M is above him due to being non-existent, type 5 acausal and a type 1 abstract of a type 2 concept, and yet i haven't argued for M to be here, cause i don't think it's enough.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Actually, since Arceus is 5th in 2-B, Ain chase should be there as well, since neither can affect the other.

IIRC type 3 concept manipulation can still affect type 1 NEP however Ain's type 2 concept manipulation says no while Arceus is too big to erase hence the stalemate.

Also the slime god kinda passively stomps Ain iirc so no 5th place for him.

Arceus may get NPI for type 1 NEP via distortion world shenanigans but that's a discussion for another time however speaking of 2-B, the Persona characters should be removed since the god tiers got upgraded to low 1-C.

 

[Everything12]

Honestly wouldn't be a surprise if Arceus isn't Top 10. As shown with its performance in 2-B, Acausality Type 5 and Type 2 Concepts just kind of roll over it, and 2-A has those things in much more abundance then 2-B.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Also the smurfs

Kinda funny how 2-A Arceus was brought up when the initial comment was about 2-B from @Rikimarox2


Personally I don't think Arceus even stands a chance on the non-smurf version of this list Gen 4 remakes and legends buffs pending (although Arceus Vs Lavos does sound spicy).

 

[Everything12]

I'd recommend against Lavos vs Arceus, its a very clear stomp and the only thing you'd achieve is annoying people, so no one try it.

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

I'd recommend against Lavos vs Arceus, its a very clear stomp and the only thing you'd achieve is annoying people, so no one try it.

Wait, who wins though I know it's probably lavos

 

[Everything12]

The one with High-Godly and Concept Manipulation Type 2. So don't, because a single look at the profiles should make the results clear.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

I'd recommend against Lavos vs Arceus, its a very clear stomp and the only thing you'd achieve is annoying people, so no one try it.

Agreed, I only said it does sound spicy on paper (being the gods of iconic RPGs) but it's clearly a stomp for Lavos.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Also the slime god kinda passively stomps Ain iirc so no 5th place for him.

I don't recall Rimuru being able to affect Type 1 abstract of a type 2?

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

I don't recall Rimuru being able to affect Type 1 abstract of a type 2?

Ah... yes I forgot how weird fiction can get with a character having both NEP and AE, I just assumed the slime can affect him with something in his wall of text profile tbh.

But it's at worst still an incon since the slime's high-godly regen Vs Ain's mid-godly EE.

 

[Planck69]

Ah... yes I forgot how weird fiction can get with a character having both NEP and AE, I just assumed the slime can affect him with something in his wall of text profile tbh.

I'm still stumped by NEP Type 2 and High-Godly regen...

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

I'm still stumped by NEP Type 2 and High-Godly regen...

Resistance negation of resistance to Resistance negation, is always a fun time too...

 

[Planck69]

Again, Characters from Ergenverse should be removed from 5-C.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Putting in the 5th place of 2-A Pokémon characters as they'd stalemate Madoka and Homura coz of the size, but would still lose against UKG as she'd be unaffected from Type 2 NEP and she'll just consume the multiverse overtime.

 

[Planck69]

Resistance negation of resistance to Resistance negation, is always a fun time too...

Honestly, that makes sense if even silly.

How do you have regeneration from conceptual destruction while having no concept, mind, body or soul?

 

[Rikimarox2]

Putting in the 5th place of 2-A Pokémon characters as they'd stalemate Madoka and Homura coz of the size, but would still lose against UKG as she'd be unaffected from Type 2 NEP and she'll just consume the multiverse overtime.

Eyo what? Isn't Madoka literally bigger than him?

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

Putting in the 5th place of 2-A Pokémon characters as they'd stalemate Madoka and Homura coz of the size, but would still lose against UKG as she'd be unaffected from Type 2 NEP and she'll just consume the multiverse overtime.

Aren't they baseline currently? Also, the Pokemon cosmology dropped to 2 multiverses recently (oof) IIRC

 

[StrymULTRA]

Aren't they baseline currently? Also, the Pokemon cosmology dropped to 2 multiverses recently (oof) IIRC

They're accepted as x60 millions.

Eyo what? Isn't Madoka literally bigger than him?

Not anymore.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Arceus is the size of 60x million 2-As? He isn't bigger than Madoka. According to beast, the cosmology of PMMM is:

The cosmology in PMMM is like two libraries, contains infinite numbers of bookcases, with each book case contains infinite numbers of books.

A book in this analogy = a universe/timeline. A bookcase = a 2-A Multiverse. And a library = what encompassed all the bookcases.

And Puella has two of those libraries.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Arceus is the size of 60x million 2-As? He isn't bigger than Madoka. According to beast, the cosmology of PMMM is:

OOOOF

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

They're accepted as x60 millions.

Thought that was being covered in a different CRT. But I remember in the "crazy dude from Persona" vs Arceus fight, Arceus was only 2 multiverses due to a quote. But they also kinda get stomped by Unicron and Lavos since both just eat him, and Lavos probably stomps the Archie Characters with High Godly and resistance negation, but I would have to make a fight first

 

[StrymULTRA]

Thought that was being covered in a different CRT. But I remember in the "crazy dude from Persona" vs Arceus fight, Arceus was only 2 multiverses due to a quote. But they also kinda get stomped by Unicron and Lavos since both just eat him, and Lavos probably stomps the Archie Characters with High Godly and resistance negation, but I would have to make a fight first

That was before the CRT tho, XY, ORAS, USUM and SWSH now have a multiverse in them as explained in that blog.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Arceus can't affect type 5 acasuals or NEP type 2s and lacks concept manipulation type 2.

He isn't making top 5 here and he'll struggle to get top 5 on the non-smurf version of this list imo.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Arceus can't affect type 5 acasuals or NEP type 2s and lacks concept manipulation 2.

He isn't making top 5 here and he'll struggle to get top 5 on the non-smurf version of this list imo.

I know, I hoped that Size would do its job here lol

 

[Rikimarox2]

Actually, he technically can incon both Yogiri, Sonic, and Ainchase due to Size.

I suggest adding him to the 5th place, along with Yogiri and (Maybe) Ainchase. Granted, Yogiri deletes Ain.

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

Actually, he technically can incon both Yogiri, Sonic, and Ainchase due to Size.

I suggest adding him to the 5th place, along with Yogiri and (Maybe) Ainchase. Granted, Yogiri deletes Ain.

Yogurt boy gets slapped by Unicron though

 

[Zencha9]

Yogurt boy gets slapped by Unicron though

for now

 

[Rikimarox2]

Yogurt boy gets slapped by Unicron though

I assume its because of NEP2? Also, his NEP2 justification is really iffy, nothing suggests that it deserves it tbh.

Although, if it legit, then both Unicron and Arceus could be in the 5th place.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

So we're relying on the llama being too big to kill as justification for his place on the list?

I dunno why but that sounds hilarious to me!

 

[Planck69]

Du Tian for 3rd High 5-A. He should most likely just kill Pink Panther with passive soul crush alone.

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

I assume its because of NEP2? Also, his NEP2 justification is really iffy, nothing suggests that it deserves it tbh.

Although, if it legit, then both Unicron and Arceus could be in the 5th place.

I mean, if being a nothingness beyond normal logic is really NEP type 2, then it's probably correct

 

[Rikimarox2]

I recall NEP2 being extremely hard to achieve, and I don't really see anything suggesting NEP2 for Unicron. Are there any scans for it or smth?