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Top 5 Strongest Characters for Every Tier 36
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It's a layered pun.
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That reminds me, why the name is Fate in the first place?
Also, i think Imagine Breaker is good contender to null that desperado thing.
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Don't know
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Yeah, Zara mentioned it although they are pretty much hard counters to rakudai due to the insane fate hax resistance. So im not sure if he'll get any spot if he cannot beat the others.
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Oh did he? I missed it. And yeah he is a bit of a hard counter now you mention it. His defense is good but offensive ability aint too great. Thought that is also because I forgot about the ability of his companion Flone to suck the souls out of people and also to possess them iirc mainly because its not his own ability but she basically counts as equipment.
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Don't know the equivalence and you have shown me literally nothing on the mechanism.
Gufadgarn pretty much only exists for Vandalieu, so yeah he probably would if he deems those guys a threat. Also, I really don't buy the part where you have to believe the illusions it shows you. In the first place, Gufadgarn has an extremely alien mental structure (and different senses from a human) so I have my doubts that the entire illusion thing would even work.
That's a lasting mental effect. It's like saying that because poison can still affect someone after they left the poisonous cloud, the cloud itself has infinite range. That's not the case.
Which really only proofs city level range and that perception is a requirement.
Kumo desu ga's can null a spiders ability to use poison and spider threat, as well as supernaturally acquired stats. It can even negate a vampires property of being a vampire. And it can null Aegis of Heaven, which arguably is fate manipulation.
What one also has to keep in mind is that power null in kumo desu ga almost always has a jamming effect on the action of taking/maintaining supernatural actions. So it usually doesn't really matter what type the supernatural power has, as it gets negated before it gains that type.
Not that this really matters, as you haven't really countered the entire clone argument yet. In general, if you want the spot you should make threads. That's kinda how the spots are granted and defended, as it's the only way to get a solid result.
Instant Death Characters aren't tied with Kumoko for speed equal. Anyway, I was making a joke. I was just playing at the fact that speed unequal is frequently neglected on this list.
She can't be appraised by 10 levels of appraisal + one additional higher level + the ability to break through appraisal resistance that can appraise this.
Which chapter is that? Also, breaking free after his enslaving magic worked or when casting it? That could make a difference here.
Kumoko doesn't have stats either, technically. She just amplifies her strength via magecraft.
Most of the stuff you say can in a general sense be equated to magic and skills as well. Martial arts and souls having abilities? Definitely. Willing things into existence? Yep, also possible. Creating pocket realities? Yes. Source Energy?... well I have no real equivalence to that as in kumo desu ga the universe to my knowledge wasn't formed by such energy. If there was such an energy than it would be the MA energy used for magecraft... but then there are skills that can actually produce that. And warping the laws of reality? I mean, that's basically the mechanism behind abilities in Kumo desu ga, so yeah.
I think magecraft is better equated to Gaia or Source Energy stuff than to regular magic and skills.
If he can find them, enter them and kill them, then he can blitz yeah. If.
I haven't seen the Rasputin debate yet. Which chapter was the Follower of Darkness thing?
In any case, maybe we should make a thread for debating this?
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Remove goddess illias from 5th in 2-a as her profile is no longer here
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Sorry for the speed unequal thing, mixed it up with the non-smurf thread.
362 is when they discuss his Gamer abilities and how they neglect not only cause and effect, but even Gaia's effect and population. Source Energy is also above Gaia or just making pocket dimensions, its the stuff used actual universes full on, Gaia is just a spec of dust by comparison to that. And Idea Power also neglects causality, created most forms of magic, etc. but The Gamer is still > that as well.
How much Mana would she have, by the way? Any supernatural energy, The Gamer equates them all. 100k or so is 7-A, and Han has quadrillions stored away, and as long as he has more mana he can land a hit on his target regardless of distance or defences by warping causality as well.
Season 4 episode 76 for Douchery, "Hmph, mental attacks like that don't work against my mental barrier-Huh?! Why can't I move?!""Hahahaha! Douchery is a skill that uses the almighty power of The Gamer! It's not easy to block!"
Han also uses Fool's Act/Douchery against Yoohwa Shin and she can't use on thought abilities either, and he justifies that by saying it's also a mental paralysis.
In general, abilities he uses have only the limitation claimed by his powers, and otherwise are made absolute by his own causality. He grows stronger regardless of his limits due to it. Douchery ignores resistances, as long as you look you're caught. His healing removes all negative status effects, even if it's as ridicolous as having sold your soul to the devil. And with his enslavement magic, and if the enslaving magic is performed on you you become his pet and power increases you gain are given to him as well unless you are a transcendent who ignores causality of - he claimed Gaia, but it could be the universe's creator as well.
How much Mana would she have, by the way? Any supernatural energy, The Gamer equates them all. 100k or so is 7-A, and Han has quadrillions stored away, and as long as he has more mana he can land a hit on his target regardless of distance or defences by warping causality as well.
Season 4 episode 76 for Douchery, "Hmph, mental attacks like that don't work against my mental barrier-Huh?! Why can't I move?!""Hahahaha! Douchery is a skill that uses the almighty power of The Gamer! It's not easy to block!"
Han also uses Fool's Act/Douchery against Yoohwa Shin and she can't use on thought abilities either, and he justifies that by saying it's also a mental paralysis.
In general, abilities he uses have only the limitation claimed by his powers, and otherwise are made absolute by his own causality. He grows stronger regardless of his limits due to it. Douchery ignores resistances, as long as you look you're caught. His healing removes all negative status effects, even if it's as ridicolous as having sold your soul to the devil. And with his enslavement magic, and if the enslaving magic is performed on you you become his pet and power increases you gain are given to him as well unless you are a transcendent who ignores causality of - he claimed Gaia, but it could be the universe's creator as well.
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Ban Midou's requirement is "they have to look into his eyes" it doesn't matter through what means as it has worked through TV screens before.
The thing is, Vandalieu ain't here so why would he throw his life away for someone that isn't even in the fight let alone in danger. And him having a alien mental structure doesn't mean he has no image of death.
Not really, it proves "the range isn't from the desperados, it's from the person being able to sense her". As long as you can sense her, you'll be able to sense the fate of death on her back.
Hmm, not sure on how that one equalizes cus there are verses out there which would have spider making thread as an actual magic move.
There is no maintaining in the case of Desperados.
The clones would just get f-ed over the moment they sense the desperado tho.
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Technically this scp could replace chaos king for top 5 strongest 2C.
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Well, Shinza is getting downgraded, so you can remove madara from the number one and add Hajun to the 5th spot or smth, since they won't get a 1-A+ key.
Damn this shit sad, 3812 can now solo Shinza.
Damn this shit sad, 3812 can now solo Shinza.
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Man, how the mighty have fallen.
Though, once the revisions for CM are done, I assume they are gonna take the 5th spot? They are gonna have 1-A+ key, but Isn't it baseline 1-A+ or smth?
Though, once the revisions for CM are done, I assume they are gonna take the 5th spot? They are gonna have 1-A+ key, but Isn't it baseline 1-A+ or smth?
Why would he be? I don't think he's infinitely above baseline 1-A, just continuously rising.
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Yeah, they're baseline 1-A+. The Ancient Ones are avatars of a Tier 0 but they don't really have any good offensive hax to my knowledge.
So 5th most likely.
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He's just several levels into 1-A from what I can tell. There's even a chance they might move to baseline.
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If that's the case, then they are 5th, since 3812 can still transcend them iirc.
Oh well, at least 3812 gained its 4th spot back.
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Aren't the Gods much higher than baseline (like, the highest non-1A+ chars)?
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Really ? , how much level they have transcended ?
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Technically speaking, Hajun and 3812 non-1-A+ key are likely on the same level since both keep ascending to higher levels.
Disregarding those two, I believe tenma is like 100 or probably higher levels above baseline 1A. I don't think there's anyone as high as them.
Disregarding those two, I believe tenma is like 100 or probably higher levels above baseline 1A. I don't think there's anyone as high as them.
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Insert Taiji value number of layers above baseline.
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Technically this scp could replace chaos king for top 5 strongest 2C.
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yes, Mikaboshi is also outdated (like most of Skyfather)
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Mhm. So can scp 4755 replace him for top 5 of 2C?
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yes(I need to re-read the Chaos war arc so it's fine for now)
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All hail Richard Nix- I mean, Nyarlethotep!
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I think the reason they never had lists was because they might become shit shows or something..
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Pretty sure he can slap Lord Gaia and take 5th low 2-C as well
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