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Top 5 Strongest Characters for Every Tier 28

EMS-TC02 Phantom said:
What armor are you even talking about
No he lost his clan's unique Distortion after Fuwa no Seki
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The "Dark Armor" from his second Distortion

"His body is thus covered in "dark armor" that absorbs anything coming in contact with him. Offensive Power, Defensive Power, Life-Force, Luck, it simply snatches anything non-mundane from his target and add it to his own, greatly boosting his stats and his Regenerationn potency"
 
It's not a literal armor. That's just how his body, or existence if you care about semantic, works. As Wilhelm his Hegemony Beri'ah manifest as a night area where he can plunder anything. As Keishirou it manifest in the exact opposite orientation coz in-universe setting reason and Keishirou himself turns into the plundering night
 
So what form of Keishirou we using for this then?

If he has luck he doesn't have High 1-A eventually. If he has Dark Armour he doesn't have luck.
 
Akabane can't deal with either.

Luck Keishirou just can't be hit and is an incon.

Kessenka Keishirou just eats all of Akabane's powers and shit.
 
Hl3 or bust said:
Akabane can't deal with either.
Luck Keishirou just can't be hit and is an incon.

Kessenka Keishirou just eats all of Akabane's powers and shit.
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I already told you that, he doesn't dodge stuff He just makes people miss. And you can make attacks miss, you can't make stuff that by nature cannot miss though. If the universe's time stops, there is really nothing to "miss". If Ban's power needs Keishirou to look into his eyes, it cannot miss. Things like "a future cannot happen because i can't believe it can", cannot miss. Sometimes you just cannot make people miss Hl3, it's a massive logical flaw.

He still has to use it though. And it's eventually High 1-A no? So it starts at 3D.
 
I didn't say dodge. You're the one arguing that thinking at someone is harder to dodge than infinite attacks from a being that is both omnipresent and that you are inside. I highly doubt that anyone but you seriously buys this.

Keishirou eventually becomes High 1-A as a Legionnaire. Kessenka as a power is always High 1-A and is on a similar scale to Habaki's Distortion iirc, as in it.s stronger than most Tenma can deal with.
 
I'm the profile it says it even absorbed Numahime and her infinite copies.
 
You said it before, but ok. Still, you can't make things that aren't attacks "miss".

I see. Still has to use it. And it says it is limited in range and that it has to come in contact with things to absorb. But oh well, either way. Akabane just blitzes in speed Unequal.
 
Ah yes, because thinking at someone with the intent to kill them with said thought isn't an attack.

No, it's literally passive from the description, it just needs him to be targeted.
 
Trying to kill someone is the definition of an attack. Get over yourself.

Boy. Kessenka is always on, otherwise he wouldn't be slowly becoming a Legionnaire.
 
No....that's not what an attack is. I legit wonder if you think that's what an attack is. Imagine going to the police officer like "he attacked me" because someone thought of attacking you kek.

Sounds weird. Where did you get that?
 
Anyway to get over this stupid argument of attack definitions. Only things that can be aimed can miss. Things that lack "aiming" really cannot miss no matter how much luck you have.
 
Yes it literally is. You can stop with the bad comparisons, because thinking at someone and that thought actually having the power to kill said person, like oh idk Akabane, completely negates everything you have said. Moreover, yes you can aim attacks like this, otherwise Akabane would instantly yeet everything in his range every time he used it, which he doesn't.

I'm pretty sure it's more or less stated on his page.
 
Numahime is beyond any form of "aiming" and "missing" that could even apply to Akabane. I don't see how this is even an argument. Also yes thought-based abilities are still attacks. If you blow someone up with a thought you attacked them even if no physical action was taken.
 
Eganergo said:
Why would it even matter when his luck manip works on conceptual type 1?
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It would cus said conceptual type 1 was throwing attacks, which no matter how unlikely can miss. Doesn't mean he makes any hax miss, it's a complete logical flaw.

@Hl3

Yes, because your thoughts can miss, i see your point. Dude, throwing stuff at people missing, doesn't mean your thoughts miss. And about your "doesn't yeet everybody", yeah, cus he knows what to do. It's like saying Misogi needs to aim, otherwise he'd just be yeeting everybody. No he doesn't he just thinks of what he wants to do and it happens.

Where?

@Whynaut

That's still going on the same type of line that Ban Midou vs Caine went and guess what, it turns out the very thing of "he's 1-A he can reflect anything" stopped being debated because its a complete logical flaw to reflect things that don't rely on damage or aren't attacks. That's not how it works, she is not beyond aiming, idk where that came from, unless you're saying that its pointless for LLT to be "never missing" (as one of its traits) cus by natural 1-A is "lol no aim".
 
It can quite miss, specifically by not shooting the attack at the right target.

You know

What missing is

Also, your point about Akabane "knowing what to do" literally has nothing to do with anything that's being discussed. Him knowing what to do means **** all if he couldn't aim his attacks, so he'd still just destroy everything in range regardless of his intentions.
 
I don't see what part of that applies to what I said.

No I'm saying she's beyond any form of aiming and missing that apply to Akabane. These are both strawmans.
 
Oblivion Of The Endless said:
Both of them still cant hope to affect Numahime, while she just nukes
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True that, can't argue there. But like if they inconc Habaki and Keishirou, then Numahime should just be a spot above.
 
Are you saying his attack is beyond causality type 5, conceptual manip type 1, irrelevant speed, and anything on high 1A level?

Because eastern expedition can slap those high 1A guys just fine.

At this point, you're just wanking again just like whenever you upgrade your verse.
 
WHYNAUT said:
I don't see what part of that applies to what I said.
No I'm saying she's beyond any form of aiming and missing that apply to Akabane. These are both strawmans.
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You either aim or you don't doe...

There is no "you can't aim this, but she aims on a different level and she misses" yes but she still aims. Also im not even talking about Akabane rn as i said, as he likes to rely on sword fights. Im debating against the "time stop misses" kind of bullshit.
 
@Eng

>Me says this isn't even about GB anymore

>You're just wanking

Also kinda lovely that you use acausality and speed as an argument for aiming but whatever.

@Hl3

>No one has said that. Literally earlier in the thread:

Yes, he technically can dodge time stop if it is his law and superior than the time stop user.

Yare yare.
 
Technicaly Keishirou can miss time stop due to his law, but it will be counted as 'resistance' or 'immunity'.
 
WHYNAUT said:
Yes and GetBackers' aiming is not quite where the Tenma's aiming is at.
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Never said they're better at aiming at Tenma, and i said like 3 times this isn't about GB characters. They just inconc.

It's about the argument of "dodges time stop" kind of argument that were popping out earlier.
 
What? We already change the subject since long ago about that.

It's just you that come back there just now.
 
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