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Top 25 Strongest Characters regardless of Tier

Pretty sure the downstreamers beat the dovahkiin, his high 1-B BFR is countered by low 1-A range and they have 1-A reactive evolution IIRC. I'm going to do the fight anyways
 
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PsychoWarper said:
I mean if the passive kills it then I think hed be incapped since every time it came back it would just die again instantly.
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Depends of what type of Passive we are talking about, any mental attacks below 1-A would be useless against him, so the Passive would need to be some kind of Power Null, Sealing, etc to take Pennywise's Avatar down.
 
God900 said:
Depends of what type of Passive we are talking about, any mental attacks below 1-A would be useless against him, so the Passive would need to be some kind of Power Null, Sealing, etc to take Pennywise's Avatar down.
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True but plenty of characters on this list have something, Pennywise may make it tho, just lower.
 
Before making random fight can we just try to make a list on how their could be here? Based on what we know directly so if passive+ if can affect the other special physiologie of the ennemy
 
Should be more easy to do the match since people that will not being able to affect the NEP2 by exemple will be in most time lower than an NEP2 being (except if this NEP 2 can't incap too)
 
Regidian said:
Should be more easy to do the match since people that will not being able to affect the NEP2 by exemple will be in most time lower than an NEP2 being (except if this NEP 2 can't incap too)
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Technically just cause you dont lose to or beat one person doesn’t automatically mean you are above them.

Just having NEP2 alone isnt enough to be above someone especially if you have ***** offense.
 
PsychoWarper said:
Technically just cause you dont lose to or beat one person doesn’t automatically mean you are above them.

Just having NEP2 alone isnt enough to be above someone especially if you have ***** offense.
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The second i already have tell it the ( ) that the one that have NEP2 can't obligatory incap

Doesn't tell about being automatically above since i talk about create a first possible tier just based in what we know, and we still can do the match after because if character A one can beat B but can't beat C but B beat C then surely will be in same rank in list no?
 
Should we do Downstreamers against Herah and Jill Presto for those spots, maybe thrown in the Theory Goats so its based around the 5th through like 9th or so then start adding it others?
 
I think Herah could take the Downstreamers. She also definitely beats the Theory Goats
 
Why herah? She don't have passive, and the high1-A can do thing by himself only if herah find she can't do the thing by herself

Except if you do with not in character she will get really bad in many match.
 
The Theory Goats can't kill Herah, and their Power Null is of a lower level than Jeffery's so yes, she should be able to take that.
 
Duedate8898 said:
The Theory Goats can't kill Herah, and their Power Null is of a lower level than Jeffery's so yes, she should be able to take that.
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But she will not really use jeffery like that no? Since the feat of power null was coming from Jeffery himself, and he need her autorisation to act by himself
 
No he doesn't, I don't know where you got that idea. Jeffery is perfectly capable of acting separate from Herah and requires no permission from Herah to do anything. And since Herah wouldn't be able to beat the Theory Goats without some higher-tiered hax, Jeffery is her only win condition so she would be forced to use him.
 
Jeffery is finicky and unwilling to contribute to do more than allow Herah to control him during a fight unless she is unable to handle the situation on her own.

Doesn't this tell that he is unable to do more that what herah allow to control him? Except if she find herself unable to handle the situation of her own

And doesn't she like extremely arrogant? I'm pretty she prefer habitualy to fight without using Jeffery in first
 
Regidian said:
Jeffery is finicky and unwilling to contribute to do more than allow Herah to control him during a fight unless she is unable to handle the situation on her own.

Doesn't this tell that he is unable to do more that what herah allow to control him? Except if she find herself unable to handle the situation of her own
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No, that's not what that means.
That means that Jeffery will choose not to help Herah unless she needs him. I'm sorry if the wording is weird, but Jeffery themselves has autonomy from Herah and does act on their own.

And Herah has High-Godly regen.

Edit: Jeffery can and does gauge opponents on his own.
 
Duedate8898 said:
No, that's not what that means.
That means that Jeffery will choose not to help Herah unless she needs him. I'm sorry if the wording is weird, but Jeffery themselves has autonomy from Herah and does act on their own.

And Herah has High-Godly regen.

Edit: Jeffery can and does gauge opponents on his own.
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Okay if it's function like that, that should be good,
 
Well even tho i think Jeffery should be restricted if he is his own being, since he an high 1-A existence by himself and the thread is restricted to tier 1 being.
 
Regidian said:
And doesn't she like extremely arrogant? I'm pretty she prefer habitualy to fight without using Jeffery in first
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And to answer this point specifically, while Herah prefers not to rely on Jeffery's powers, Jeffery themselves does not care too much for Herah's pride. If they see Herah can't do something on their own, Jeffery will jump in.

And Jeffery is Herah's weapon, and he doesn't have a High 1-A existence naturally. That's just what he can amp himself and her to.
 
Duedate8898 said:
And to answer this point specifically, while Herah prefers not to rely on Jeffery's powers, Jeffery themselves does not care too much for Herah's pride. If they see Herah can't do something on their own, Jeffery will jump in.

And Jeffery is Herah's weapon, and he doesn't have a High 1-A existence naturally. That's just what he can amp himself and her to.
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High 1-A amps shouldn't be allowed because that is literally making you Tier 1, which is against the rules.
 
Wait, so Jeffery works in the way that he is someone else coming in and fighting for Herah because she can't beat a person on her own?

Is that not outside help? Sounds like it to me.
 
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