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She have the thing in her weakness, the 1-A thing (jeffery) she seem to use it only if she see she can't do the thing by herself, and she too much arrogant.
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Top 25 Strongest Characters regardless of Tier
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Herah doesn't have High 1-A passives, well at all. It just gives them High 1-A ap/durability amps, that's all.
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Most people with passives stomp them
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And maybie even without since she doesn't seem to use that too much
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Oh, Vecna, The TES guys, and the Twin Peaks guys can effect NEP type 2
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Void shiki, shinzo and umineko too, and all of them have transduality i think too
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I feel like it would be better to actually get the person whis knowledgeable on Herah instead of just assuming since I know she has H1A resistances and I know the Pencil has hax.
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The H1A resistance doesn't come from the pencil having powernull the presence of that H1-A being? I actually don't see even why it's resistance since it's was power nulled.
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The guy that is knowledgeable on Herah is Duedate IIRC
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Jeff over here just gives resistance to some High 1-A things due to power-null.
Aura (Overwhelming), Chaos Manipulation, Fear Manipulation, Madness Manipulation (Type 2), Mind Manipulation, Paralysis Inducement, Power Modification, Power Nullification, Regeneration Negation (High Godly), Spatial Manipulation, Time Manipulation and Transmutation.
That's all the power-null was shown to do.
Aura (Overwhelming), Chaos Manipulation, Fear Manipulation, Madness Manipulation (Type 2), Mind Manipulation, Paralysis Inducement, Power Modification, Power Nullification, Regeneration Negation (High Godly), Spatial Manipulation, Time Manipulation and Transmutation.
That's all the power-null was shown to do.
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Well I asked the Herah Knowledgeable guy to comment.
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Yeah it's the good thing but well how we will do with the other? (And well her pencil is not passive)
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Who is Herah
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Herah
Herah is one of the unwilling gifted participants in the latest Recompense hosted by her Maker, Norwe. She is from a race called the Cendreux, and is a part of the minority of her species that still worships their goddess La Flamme. She shows her worship through her art, her great skill for the...
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Oh right, the series with the alphabet soup terminology.Herah
Herah is one of the unwilling gifted participants in the latest Recompense hosted by her Maker, Norwe. She is from a race called the Cendreux, and is a part of the minority of her species that still worships their goddess La Flamme. She shows her worship through her art, her great skill for the...
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Herahs pencil is Automatic and has its own will so its not passive but similar to GER.
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Korega Jeffery da.
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The weakness section talk about this
Jeffery is finicky and unwilling to contribute to do more than allow Herah to control him during a fight unless she is unable to handle the situation on her own. If Herah is in control, Jeffery is only able to go as fast as Herah can perceive, though Jeffery may amp her if they see fit.
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I was asked to comment so I shall.
The thing in regards to Jeffery's finicky nature is that Jeffery's very clear specifications is that if Herah can't win on her own, they will step in with their own power. Hence why I will say those with Passives that automatically effect Herah tend to have it hardest against her, because if she doesn't resist it on her own then Jeffery will naturally step in to fix that for her.
Also, the power of Jeffery's Presence is kinda not known to me where it places in terms of High 1-A, it possibly place Herah at the top of the list since it was shown affecting uncountably infinite High 1-A structures, it could also just be 5 times above baseline due to that being the actual number of layers shown. If anyone has any idea on how we should treat it, due let me know.
Otherwise, she should be above Ange for sure while I'm unsure in regards to the Shinza Banshou characters.
The thing in regards to Jeffery's finicky nature is that Jeffery's very clear specifications is that if Herah can't win on her own, they will step in with their own power. Hence why I will say those with Passives that automatically effect Herah tend to have it hardest against her, because if she doesn't resist it on her own then Jeffery will naturally step in to fix that for her.
Also, the power of Jeffery's Presence is kinda not known to me where it places in terms of High 1-A, it possibly place Herah at the top of the list since it was shown affecting uncountably infinite High 1-A structures, it could also just be 5 times above baseline due to that being the actual number of layers shown. If anyone has any idea on how we should treat it, due let me know.
Otherwise, she should be above Ange for sure while I'm unsure in regards to the Shinza Banshou characters.
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If they only showed 5 H1A structures then she would just be 5 times above baseline
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Norwe is 6x above H1A.
Also, things that auto-effect Herah and Jeffery doesn't can't power-null (there is a clear list there), they get stomped.
Also, things that auto-effect Herah and Jeffery doesn't can't power-null (there is a clear list there), they get stomped.
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I'm sorry I said that the wrong way.
There is shown Uncountably infinte High 1-A structures, its just that the ones that were affected were also on the same level of existence.
There is shown Uncountably infinte High 1-A structures, its just that the ones that were affected were also on the same level of existence.
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Actually yes they can, the main reason I say so is because the main way that OE works is very similar to the Endless Nine from Umeiko. The reasons those are listed out as they are is because that's just what Jeffery was directly shown to have resistance to.
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How far above baseline is her H1A stuff to be exact?
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I think he said it is kinda unknown, anywhere from 5 to uncountably infinite levels of infinity.
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I dont think she can be use if we dont even know where she stands
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I would use the at least 5, personally.
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I mean sure she can, just low ball it to 5 and see where she fits from there.
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Well if we know its at least H1A then we can use that but if we dont know the specifics id just say dont rank her above other H1A Smurfs unless she has a clear path to victory like Tom Taylor and his lack of Resistances.
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Beaten to the punch.
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That will work.
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Norwe is exactly 6 layers above baseline. Jeffrey can scale to that, but TAKE REGARDS and know that Jeffrey's power-null CAN ONLY POWER-NULL what is specified.
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That's not how it works.
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It power-nulled his presence, and has not shown anything outside that. Power-null doesn't automatically affect all abilities.
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Yes it has, look at the actual profile.
Jeffery has also negated the Law Manipulation of another character named Alex. And while there are naturally some things that don't fall under powernull, like just natural parts to a being that doesn't mean Jeffery's powernull only works on things in which he's outlined to resist.
If that was a thing, I would've specified it in weaknesses when making the profile.
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Danmaku spam of passives should work
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That really depends on what the passive is. But I'm done with this unless there's an actual fight to be had.
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We should probably start making matches between characters, while I dont think the Top 3 gets touched seems theres potential for the rest.
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Sorry for answering this late, but, Pennywise's Inmortality type 9 and 1-A Mind say Hi.
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I mean if the passive kills it then I think hed be incapped since every time it came back it would just die again instantly.
