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He isWhy isn't Bill Cipher in Low 1-C?
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He isWhy isn't Bill Cipher in Low 1-C?
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Most of themTier 6 number 5 spot.
Which character from Arifureta specifically represents that spot?
Choose someone who won't stomp.I mean for a character to be put in an equal ranking as Arifureta characters, which character am I supposed to match up with to do so? Not sure if I can even match a certain character with every single 6-C arifureta character, since it'd be a doozy to do all of them.
A conclusion in that topic was never really reached.Also for a character to advance the rankings, this character has to beat the others in both speed equal and unequal, right? I know it's common knowledge, but I just wanted confirmation.
We have already discussed this issue recently... I am explaining my thoughts starting from this comment.I see, shall we find a conclusion on that?
What does the majority think about it? Both speeds or speed unequal/equal?
That's an option too, but given that managing even a single thread overwhelms OP's, does anyone want to manage these threads on an ongoing basis?As far as I am concerned, Speed Equal and Unequal should essentially function as separate lists. So if you want a speed equal spot you only have to defeat the characters placed for speed equal matches. If you want to get speed unequal spots you only have to beat characters that have their ranking for speed unequal.
In practice characters often (implicitely) hold both spots, as at the higher levels of hax speed often stops being relevant.
Now that I've caught up, I see.We have already discussed this issue recently... I am explaining my thoughts starting from this comment.
Same sentiment, this will be better at differentiating speed equalization shenanigans but at the expense of OP's time.That's an option too, but given that managing even a single thread overwhelms OP's, does anyone want to manage these threads on an ongoing basis?
How we deal with incons is a separate problem from the speed equal/unequal spots, because incons are essentially a case by case thingWe have already discussed this issue recently... I am explaining my thoughts starting from this comment.
It's still just a single thread and the amount of unequal spots isn't that high, since, as DT pointed out, it will at some time get to a point where it doesn't matter.That's an option too, but given that managing even a single thread overwhelms OP's, does anyone want to manage these threads on an ongoing basis?
When did anyone say the list would be based on unequal speed?Still a list based on unequal speed stands a chance of no longer identifying the strongest but the fastest. The average unhaxed joe can basically nab a spot for blitzing to hell and back unless the opponent has passives
In a strongest character list that states that a character must defeat the holders of those spots in order to take higher spots, can you explain why the speed stat should not be part of the character's power?Still a list based on unequal speed stands a chance of no longer identifying the strongest but the fastest. The average unhaxed joe can basically nab a spot for blitzing to hell and back unless the opponent has passives
When did anyone say the list would be based on unequal speed?
Normally speed unequal is done here when a contending character has a chance of winning with that rule but a new list done withStill a list based on unequal speed stands a chance of no longer identifying the strongest but the fastest. The average unhaxed joe can basically nab a spot for blitzing to hell and back unless the opponent has passives
Cause it's no longer about the strongest but the fastest. Hax does determine the strongest not to mention some characters here hold their spot thanks to higher AP so it's not all about hax. Some matches can be held with speed unequal if they're already close to each other but you can have a rando who randomly scales absurdly high in speed grab a spot by winning via a blitz or inconning cause others can't even touch them.In a strongest character list that states that a character must defeat the holders of those spots in order to take higher spots, can you explain why the speed stat should not be part of the character's power?
Then, let's rename the list to "top 15 most haxed non-smurf characters" because after a point, haxs usually make all stats useless.
Looking at Hajime's profile, I'm a bit concerned on how these two particular abilities work:I recommend Hajime
If the character can't resist Law and CM, don't bother. Maybe use the second key.Can anyone knowledgeable explain to me how this works in a matchup?
All his keys minus the first have them.The law and cm is in the post evolution key mate.
Try KoukiSoo uhh even the second key (post evolution) has the Law Manip and CM type 2. So uhh should I just not bother at all in the end?
So if the character I'm going to propose soon defeats this guy, would this character be at the same spot ranking as the other characters?
IDKSo if the character I'm going to propose soon defeats this guy, would this character be at the same spot ranking as the other characters?
5-B match? (Just generally)I'll just go the safe route and just go for Daphne instead.
Speaking of proposal, this is the character. He's powerful enough to contend with some of those in the 6-C list. (Final 6-C key)
Kamen Rider Kuuga
Yusuke Godai (五代 雄介, Godai Yūsuke) is the main protagonist of Kamen Rider Kuuga. He was a happy-go-lucky honest individual who traveled around the world mastering 2000 different skills and talents that he used to help others. One day, he found himself drawn to a mysterious stone belt and faced...vsbattles.fandom.com
I'll get the speed equal match started after some time.
From a glance, Kuuga might just be cooked since he doesn't really have NPI to damage Ragnaros and most of what Ultimate Kuuga can do is probably countered by him. I do see that he doesn't actually resist Overwhelming Aura, Matter and Plasma Manip tho.
OA probably needs a feat of working on someone like Rag(That is an Elemental), and honestly matter Manipulation if it's not just delete Rag might be the way to go.From a glance, Kuuga might just be cooked since he doesn't really have NPI to damage Ragnaros and most of what Ultimate Kuuga can do is probably countered by him. I do see that he doesn't actually resist Overwhelming Aura, Matter and Plasma Manip tho.
I will ask around my peers if they see something I don't along with me actually looking more clearly with the profiles, seeing as Ultimate Kuuga does retain his previous forms' abilities and resistances.
Kuuga did tank plasma spawning inside of him, where did the 15 million Celsius came from, if I may ask?Main issue with him though is that his heat can damage folks who can tank 15 million celcius stuff, so melee is suicide. Honestly Al'Akir might be the much better way to go
I mean Plasma heat got proven to vary and you need specific proof for the 150 million crapKuuga did tank plasma spawning inside of him, where did the 15 million Celsius came from, if I may ask?
That... doesn't look sufficient lolWhile Kuuga might be able to match Ragnaros (very unlikely atm), I think this person may also give him a run for his money, though there's still the problem of him not having NPI as usual.
Kamen Rider OOO
Eiji Hino (火野 映司, Hino Eiji?) is the main protagonist of Kamen Rider OOO. He is a 21-year-old homeless traveller who was the son of a politician. When traveling to Africa, he befriended a little girl named Ruu and attempted to use his fortune to help her struggling village. Unfortunately, this...vsbattles.fandom.com
While it is obviously better than Ragnaros, the riders still suffer from lacking NPI among other things, rendering them probably unable to harm him too. OOO has ranged stuff, compared to Kuuga.Like maybe if they range spam? Otherwise Al'akir is the better matching option
Well if they have a hax like Matter Manipulation that doesn't care about Interactions when it comes to Elemental stuff, and it's not just like, full Reinhard Van Astra delete that general direction, it'd actually make a for a decent matchWhile it is obviously better than Ragnaros, the riders still suffer from lacking NPI among other things, rendering them probably unable to harm him too. OOO has ranged stuff, compared to Kuuga.
Ah, so... really not the haxxy variety(when it comes to either character), unfortunate, looks like I'll have to hunt elsewhere for matchesKuuga's Matter Manip comes from this:
-Fire Manipulation, Matter Manipulation (Atomic) and Plasma Manipulation (By manipulating the atoms and molecules of matter, he turns the surrounding materials into plasma and ignites the matter, setting the target instantly with super-heated flames.[51][52][50][34] Kuuga can also manipulate plasma from the atmosphere to cause ignition phenomena and emit plasma ions from his hands[53])
Good choice that one!Also to answer your question, idk about OA because Kuuga hasn't really fought something like the elementals.
OOO has more stuff but I'm currently balancing my activities by checking the profiles while simultaneously chilling in a morrowind playthrough.
You mean OOO, morrowind or both?Good choice that one!