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Top 15 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation 4.0

For Low 5-B, I think he can go to #6 or #5
 
Forefather Tian Yu now has Info/concept high-Godly and High-Godly negation. Would that help against Coiling Dragon?
 
Idk what characters to look into for Nipponverse. Do you know what the 1-3 strongest characters there would be?
Nothing too crazy passive stats manipulation, a good amount of resists and from the looks of it non-combat applicable Toon Force if this guy (one of the top tiers in the verse) is anything to go by.

Might wanna make a Vs thread but I highly doubt they can do anything against CM, iirc Nipponverse is only ranked so high due to having high physical stats (AP and MFTL+ speed) similar to Asura's Wrath granted with more varied P&A.
 
Nothing too crazy passive stats manipulation, a good amount of resists and from the looks of it non-combat applicable Toon Force if this guy (one of the top tiers in the verse) is anything to go by.

Might wanna make a Vs thread but I highly doubt they can do anything against CM, iirc Nipponverse is only ranked so high due to having high physical stats (AP and MFTL+ speed) similar to Asura's Wrath granted with more varied P&A.
Sure Mujin and Mori might be higher than them in that case.
Unless some Nipponverse supporter disagrees
 
was just going through the rest of the list and-
Mortum:- Subaru just blitzes and Al shamaks
Morgan:- Subaru just blitzes and Al shamaks
Yomiel:- Subaru just blitzes and Al shamaks
Radiance:- Subaru just blitzes and Al shamaks (or minyas)
Giggles:- Subaru just blitzes and Al shamaks/Minyas
Aiko:- Subaru just blitzes and Al shamaks/Minyas
Characters from Owari no Chronicle:- Most get beaten by Al shamak or minya but Toda might be able to survive, although that doenst really matter because Subaru is too fast and would dodge without much issue and would probably also outlast him because of unknown vs Superhuman stamina.

Considering all of this, Subaru should be rank 6 in tier 9B in a tie with Characters from Owari no Chronicle
 
Radiance:- Subaru just blitzes and Al shamaks (or minyas)
Not only does Subaru get passived to shit by the layered mind and bio hax that the radiance dishes out by just existing, but also there is no NPI on him so he ain't getting past the incorp let alone the AE1, also the bfr just doesn't work because radiance has interdimensional range anyways

Also he ain't blitzing shit, cause the list assumes speed equal as the baseline
 
Maybe these characters can get a spot in Low 1-C.
 
Maybe these characters can get a spot in Low 1-C.
After checking the list, im actually just straight up surprised because I'm decently sure nobody up to Ozriel can deal with TLQ just erasing them to its level (or the NEP, which is what really helps here)

Also D&D characters should be removed from the list for the usual reasons
Also all digimon should be removed from the list too because they are all high 1-C smurfs since they resist eater hax
 
Idk what characters to look into for Nipponverse. Do you know what the 1-3 strongest characters there would be?
Nipponverse, while somewhat outdated has an absurd scaling that goes in 2-B this Character level 20>Character level 21>Character level 22>Character level 23>Character level 24 etc....And so on until they hit level 100 to 200, where they become 2-A. They also have EE, petrificacion, and a bunch of shenanigans
 
Nipponverse, while somewhat outdated has an absurd scaling that goes in 2-B this Character level 20>Character level 21>Character level 22>Character level 23>Character level 24 etc....And so on until they hit level 100 to 200, where they become 2-A. They also have EE, petrificacion, and a bunch of shenanigans
Well those don't seem super relevant for non smurf 3-B tier since l2-C and above stuff would be smurf
 
Maybe these characters can get a spot in Low 1-C.
After checking the list, im actually just straight up surprised because I'm decently sure nobody up to Ozriel can deal with TLQ just erasing them to its level (or the NEP, which is what really helps here)

Also D&D characters should be removed from the list for the usual reasons
Also all digimon should be removed from the list too because they are all high 1-C smurfs since they resist eater hax
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After checking the list, im actually just straight up surprised because I'm decently sure nobody up to Ozriel can deal with TLQ just erasing them to its level (or the NEP, which is what really helps here)
Slay the princess characters can't do much against Setoki data type 2, due to their NEP not convering that
 
When did my obscure VN character become the topic of debates?

Idk about EE working void manipulation doesn't due to sheer will, which transcends everything in verse, Nozumu has the highest willpower, hence why he can resist layered stuff, but anyway it's a proven thing that willpower grants resistances, and it's his willpower which granted void resistance.

As for info 2, it's an option, but not really a starting move, he has Et Ca Repha's authority. In turns of vs matches, despite being weaker Et Ca Repha might be more broken? Due to long list of abilities and resistances, plus she starts with law + fate + concept + info 2, but Yaga and Nozumu passively turn stuff to nothing, and it's to such an extent, if not for the cast containing her, Yaga would have turned the entire multiverse (5-D) to nothingness in seconds, so ehh, who really is more broken.
 
When did my obscure VN character become the topic of debates?

Idk about EE working void manipulation doesn't due to sheer will, which transcends everything in verse, Nozumu has the highest willpower, hence why he can resist layered stuff, but anyway it's a proven thing that willpower grants resistances, and it's his willpower which granted void resistance.

As for info 2, it's an option, but not really a starting move, he has Et Ca Repha's authority. In turns of vs matches, despite being weaker Et Ca Repha might be more broken? Due to long list of abilities and resistances, plus she starts with law + fate + concept + info 2, but Yaga and Nozumu passively turn stuff to nothing, and it's to such an extent, if not for the cast containing her, Yaga would have turned the entire multiverse (5-D) to nothingness in seconds, so ehh, who really is more broken.
TLQ has NEP 2 and and can erase the shifting mound who already encompasses and transcends the duality of something and nothing, so they are getting EE'd
 
TLQ has NEP 2 and and can erase the shifting mound who already encompasses and transcends the duality of something and nothing,
You need information (heh) that your duality covers an specific metaphyiscal aspect, and there is nothing in the profile that hints STP tracends information type 2
 
You need information (heh) that your duality covers an specific metaphyiscal aspect, and there is nothing in the profile that hints STP tracends information type 2
You do realize 1)None of them have info NEP so that doesn't matter when TLQ erases them 2)Even if they did, it wouldn't matter when all of their other aspects are erased beyond their own degree of nonexistence and including their own concept and mind, and they sure as hell aren't just pure informational constructs
 
You do realize 1)None of them have info NEP so that doesn't matter when TLQ erases them 2)Even if they did, it wouldn't matter when all of their other aspects are erased beyond their own degree of nonexistence and including their own concept and mind, and they sure as hell aren't just pure informational constructs
That is not even touching what I said, what?
 
Wait Slay characters are already like #3, and Setoki is like #10, how did this argument even come about? Setoki hasn't even passed the DBH cast with their like 7 layers of hax?

Regardless I have no stake in this, was just amused Setoki is even being discussed here.
 
this is the updated list for Low 1-C

1. Characters from BlazBlue / Characters from What a Beautiful Series (Alva Avan Edison and M)
2. Ozriel / Characters from Dungeons and Dragons (The Lady of Pain and The Serpent)
3. Sacred Ancestor
4. Sora
5. Characters from Wizard101
6. Shiva
7. Characters from Dragon Ball (Demigra, Arale, Goku and Fu)
8. Setoki Nozumu
9. Kratos / Celestial Foundation Eater
10. Yang Kai
11. Infinity Ultron and Doctor Strange Supreme
12. The Devourer / The Player / Bill Cipher
13. The Great Kitsune
14. Spawn / Knives Millions
 
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this is the updated list for Low 1-C

1. Characters from BlazBlue / Characters from What a Beautiful Series (Alva Avan Edison and M)
2. Ozriel / Characters from Dungeons and Dragons (The Lady of Pain and The Serpent)
3. Sacred Ancestor
4. Sora
5. Characters from Wizard101
6. Shiva
7. Characters from Dragon Ball (Demigra, Arale, Goku and Fu)
8. Setoki Nozumu
9. Kratos / Celestial Foundation Eater
10. Yang Kai
11. Infinity Ultron and Doctor Strange Supreme
12. The Devourer / The Player / Bill Cipher
13. The Great Kitsune
14. Spawn / Knives Millions
Is not sacred Ancestor Low 1-C because is Smurfs?
 
Characters from Fire Emblem (Tiki and Naga) for a spot in High 6-C and 4-A.
To kill them you need: to resist mind hax as they passively control everyone around them to prevent attacks, have a way to bypass invulnerability, immortality (Type 2) and be able to destroy souls.
All while they have a passive Healing, Dimensional BFR, Durability Negation and Sealing.

They can take a free spot in High-C and 4-A.
 
this is the updated list for Low 1-C

1. Characters from BlazBlue / Characters from What a Beautiful Series (Alva Avan Edison and M)
2. Ozriel / Characters from Dungeons and Dragons (The Lady of Pain and The Serpent)
3. Sacred Ancestor
4. Sora
5. Characters from Wizard101
6. Shiva
7. Characters from Dragon Ball (Demigra, Arale, Goku and Fu)
8. Setoki Nozumu
9. Kratos / Celestial Foundation Eater
10. Yang Kai
11. Infinity Ultron and Doctor Strange Supreme
12. The Devourer / The Player / Bill Cipher
13. The Great Kitsune
14. Spawn / Knives Millions
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Characters from Fire Emblem (Tiki and Naga) for a spot in High 6-C and 4-A.
To kill them you need: to resist mind hax as they passively control everyone around them to prevent attacks, have a way to bypass invulnerability, immortality (Type 2) and be able to destroy souls.
All while they have a passive Healing, Dimensional BFR, Durability Negation and Sealing.

They can take a free spot in High-C and 4-A.
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