You are only arguing for Shiro Chi, correct? Layers won't matter if she can't hit that attack. Moreover, that attack seems to only have CM1 and IM2? The thing is, to pass through the barrier, you will need to counter all of this at the same time (except for magic, ofc)
That is all encompassed by Ontology, which all Paracausal powers are encompassed by, this is on the profiles (it's what the CM1 on them is)
I don't see Law Manipulation or Reality Warping there, I was already aware of the CM1 and IM2 and was asking about other things that the barrier is
I don't see how it affects Shiro though, it specifically lists that they get LW and RW not from the nature of ontology, but straight feats of these powers
Isn't this going on right now?
No, I mean, isn't there a CRT on the topic of separation going on right now?
Ignoring the fact that Ontology by definition has to include reality (it is literally the study of what reality/being is)
Cool and all, but you still didn't prove that all users are capable of LM by default. Maybe it's my brain at 2 a.m., but I don't find this fully convincing to grant these to everyone, you can make a CRT updating the nature of ontology though
It's quite literally on every single paracausal user's page, it doesn't make a difference either way
She an awoken, This means she naturally possesses Law Manipulation and Reality Warping. She also taken to
She has it in her second key, but this attack appears in the first. Does this mean that this attack is separate from her LM?
You are yet to specify this virus, not the first time I ask this
You mean try to take spot 2 for H6B? Not planning that. Shion doesn't even have anything smurf
What page are you even quoting? As I'm pretty sure she doesn't have that sequence of abilities, especially considering that Shuro doesn't have Causality, like at all
the bottom of swords logic page
they have a Verse-specific ability.
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Quria, because its definition of taking is better defined than the one Shuro has, but it doesn't change the powers
The only thing I see there is thisthey have a Verse-specific ability.
Sword Logic
The Sword Logic is an overarching concept in Destiny (Verse) that many people are able to tap in to for the purpose of accessing power and abilities. While technically a neutral power, it is used almost exclusively by the Hive or Hive affiliated forces, while also used by others like the Player...
Which doesn't really account for anything
Which is kinda wrong? You literally say that the more powerful the character, the more abilities they have and scaling a H6B from a L2C honestly even sounds wrong
Read the entire page.
Taking is the same for all characters; it's the same power as to Take is to turn someone into a Taken who spreads the Taken Blight which Takes people
I read the whole that section, the only scaling it provides is to 2 characters and a mention that everyone else won't get the same abilities
Then why for Shuro it's listed as CM( combat unapplicable, type 2 otherwise) and for Quria it's just CM1 which doesn't make sense, as you list usage of darkness as unapplicable CM1, so is Shuro's profile actually more up-to-date?
Not that proficient in English, so can you tell what FYI means? A general question
1) Shuro needs to chant to use obliteration, so there is a delay for action. And she also can't teleport due to this
2) Shion has insane RE and AD. If the fight goes on for even 5 minutes, Shion gets her US and slams. Prolonging works against her
The barrier is made by all of this in tandem, moreover, in Tensura LM has the same potency as CM1, so it's you who needs to prove that it can bypass it
FYI is an acronym that's stands for "for your information."
which updates?
ctr for gan cause i do not reall the cosmology that high and marvel is getting revised again High 1A for marvel might get upgraded.
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What makes you think she wouldn't know how powerful it is? It utilizes principles that are very similar to that of Tensura, and with the amount of layers there's no way she won't feel threatened and teleport from it
If we were to talk about her first key, I would agree here, but after her fight with Razul she started to think more about tactical advantages and disadvantages and had a general improvement in behavior
NLF instincts? Say that to Re:Zero fans with Reinhard. At least I only say that towards immediate threats
Yeah, sorry about that, it's not due to Optimal action. Just in the TL I was reading, her intuition had a very similar description to OA, so I just fused them to one. They are separate
1) The best course of action was not to "hit until it works", the best course of action was to 'prolong as much as possible' which she did. Even if she kept hitting it, it wouldn't have done anything if not for evolution. And after it, she managed to leave a crack in his exoskeleton even without hitting that spot
Resistance to Power Null doesn't work, as that negation is an indirect effect. That ability works on people who passively bend, distort and rip Spacetime with their presence, so that also doesn't work
Both verses' profiles aren't up-to-date and we generally allow you to mention things that aren't there yet, just like with Quria. It's also not like I'm assigning any specific abilities to it (of which there are a lot) the general things mentioned in the Ultimate Skill section are enough already
We don't assume that CM1 can bypass LM by default. This argument about verse mechanics was to not bother with things like "ooh, that LM is probably some minor thingy".
Actually I found a guy who tried to scale the layers based on this mechanic. He went off with the total amount of Unique skills mentioned, which is viable, but still gives less than should be. So it goes as high as 81 and that's just the Unique. Not trying to bring it in as an argument, but just a general thing I wanted to mention
