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Yeah unless and until someone comes with a better argumentSo should i change ur vote to incon
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Yeah unless and until someone comes with a better argumentSo should i change ur vote to incon
Madness + Morality + Empathic Manip, although Alien X's main wincon is thought based EEDoes Unicron have any answers to body puppetry?
Not sure what this means. That Unicorn's Madness + Morality + Empathic Manipulation Hacks goes all the way to the main body? From it's puppet looking at it?an attack that the victim does to themselves
More like Alien X sees something and gets convinced into losingNot sure what this means. That Unicorn's Madness + Morality + Empathic Manipulation Hacks goes all the way to the main body? From it's puppet looking at it?
Nah SBA has this "This doesn't prevent a character being made to give up, because the other character manipulates them via things like, for example, mind control, fear inducement, psychological tricks or superhuman charisma"SBA would say that it'd still try to Thought-Based Existence Erasure it.
He either gets driven mad and cant fight anymore, or gets convinced to join the evil side and fight for UnicronI misread your comment LOL. It depends on how it "gets convinced into losing" does it just, not do anything? Self-sabotage?
Last I checked, and it's been a while since I've seen Ben 10, not really at all.btw how in character is it for Alien X to start with EE?
Maybe? I think so, but idk.So isnt it more likely for Alien X to go mad before he would use EE
There's one thing I've never understood, which is that Existence Erasure for Alien X is considered a wincon in a real sense. Alien X has never used Existence Erasure, neither against Galactic Gladiator, nor against Amalgam Kids... Another strange part of the situation is that the Existence Erasure that Alien X has is only based on the words of other characters (Servantis, Kevin)...btw how in character is it for Alien X to start with EE?
See, this confuses me, because I don't remember anytime he's used it onscreen, other than the statement.btw how in character is it for Alien X to start with EE?
His Madness Hax ignores rangeUnicron's madness hax has 21-D range
it will never affect Alien X's consciousness which you need 26-D range to interact with
no it does not, his range is 21-DHis Madness Hax ignores range
It works because it's an attack that the victim does to themselves, and on the resistence page, it says it should be able to work on HDE and R>F as long there is no resistenceno it does not, his range is 21-D
also that is a massive NLF
if his madness hax ignores range, using this logic that would mean his madness hax would work on people whose existence is 1-A
He never used it. It's just based on statements of other characters.See, this confuses me, because I don't remember anytime he's used it onscreen, other than the statement.
Unicron FraPlus Unicron's madness hax is passive. It comes from him just merely existing. And afaik, Alien X doesn't have resistance to such a thing.
Really? Then changing my vote to Unicorn. Anything else but immediate Existence Erasure would give Alien X the L.Alien X literally has never used EE in any battle he was in
Alien X can win via nuking the cosmologyisn't this a stomp then?