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Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for every tier continued

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Setsuna_tenma said:
They have 6D sealing so she can get sealed or BFred into a 6D realm.
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Who has the 6-D Sealing and the 6-D BFR?

If it's one the characters who aren't 6-D physically then Amaterasu could kill them before those abilities can be activated.

But if its one of the characters who are 6-D physically then sure, Marvel can have the spot.
 
Deceived said:
Who has the 6-D Sealing and the 6-D BFR?

If it's one the characters who aren't 6-D physically then Amaterasu could kill them before those abilities can be activated.

But if its one of the characters who are 6-D physically then sure, Marvel can have the spot.
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Doramamu. He sealed eternity another 6D being.
 
Dereck03 said:
It seems that Castlevania characters can't beat destiny folks and exdeath can (Don't know how tbh) that's why he's above them, tho he gets stomped here
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Looks sus.. I'm smelling bias on this one.

Uhh, can anyone explain how Exdeath beats Destiny and Castlevania doesn't? Even tho even kid Dracula stomped Exdeath
 
Dark Schneider should either be tied for 1st or 2nd in 3-A since he at least incons both Greeza and Soul King, he maybe beats Greeza but he should definitely incon with Soul King given his Almighty passively negging all of Dark Schneider's hax's but Soul King not being able to kill him nor even interact with him given Dark Schneider's AE and Mid-Godly Regen.

Greeza should be 2nd in High 3-A since Disembodiment Thought can't do anything towards Greeza given its NEP while Greeza can just absorb D.T and EE him since it can interact with AE (Type 1) beings.
 
Dereck03 said:
DT has said more than one time that TD is logic-based power. And judging by one of the possible feats of logic manipulation that can make something/someone transdual. And also by manipulating the logic in MG they can negate the Aca 5 and TD nature.
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The Acasuality type 5 and Transduality is based on not following logic (well not fully, but that is part of it) so logic manip alone doesn’t explain it unless you talk about higher levels of logic
Dereck03 said:
It's not immune, you need to overcome his source to fully affect him, its shown in verse and that's why it's already used many times
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Yes Arceus is overcoming his sources Resistence to mindhax, it’s simple.
 
theultimate5105 said:
Arceus for number 1 in 2-A tied with Anos as now he can effect Anos’s source and passively makes him lose the will to do anything at all (Incaps him for the same reason mindhax can be considered incap), but Anos also passives him in return so it is Inconclusive.
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I did not want to participate in Pokémon debates anymore, but I can't help but want to ask: If a being supposedly omnipresent throughout all creation has passive mind hax, how exactly is not everyone in existence constantly mind haxed?
 
DontTalkDT said:
I did not want to participate in Pokémon debates anymore, but I can't help but want to ask: If a being supposedly omnipresent throughout all creation has passive mind hax, how exactly is not everyone in existence constantly mind haxed?
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It is More his Avatar I am talking about here.
Also that could literally apply to 99.99% of verses with Passives as big as their ranges, and if people actually ignore that for all other verses, I think it is fair to just ignore that anyways as Arceus just deciding not to
 
DontTalkDT said:
I did not want to participate in Pokémon debates anymore, but I can't help but want to ask: If a being supposedly omnipresent throughout all creation has passive mind hax, how exactly is not everyone in existence constantly mind haxed?
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His True Form actually exists in everything. Not omnipresence kind of way,Brahman - Atman kind of way

If he wanted to mind hax, he could
 
theultimate5105 said:
It is More his Avatar I am talking about here.
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So you're saying the avatar is stronger than the true form in some respect? Never mind the fact that the idea is definitely contradicted, as beings have fought Arceus before.

theultimate5105 said:
Also that could literally apply to 99.99% of verses with Passives as big as their ranges
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Many verses use passive wrong. I try to point it out when I get the chance.

Yemma670 said:
If he wanted to mind hax, he could
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Sure, but if he has to want to first, it's not passive.
 
DontTalkDT said:
So you're saying the avatar is stronger than the true form in some respect? Never mind the fact that the idea is definitely contradicted, as beings have fought Arceus before.
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More that his True form isn’t deciding to do it and the same could apply with his Avatar. Also I don’t even know if Arceus ever fought with all of his plates and the powers come from his plates
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Many verses use passive wrong. I try to point it out when I get the chance.
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Fair on this
 
Well honestly I kinda agree with that for Passives that are mostly turned off to not qualify as Passives.

but that would disquallify basically every verse from having passives including Anos (He literally has never used his MEoCD to destroy on a 2-A range forget doing it passively) so the match would actually just be Arceus winning from that
 
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Yeah, a passive would be always on regardless of regular circumstances by definition
Something that's just "constantly" on once activated is just an active ability, which is far more manageable than a passive to say the least.
 
Deceived said:
given his Almighty passively negging all of Dark Schneider's hax's but Soul King not being able to kill him nor even interact with him given Dark Schneider's AE and Mid-Godly Regen
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Dispel bounds provide an anti-precognition mechanism if you look on its resistance tab, which I believe is what Almighty’s nullfication based on
 
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