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Exdeath vs Kid Dracula (Battle for third spot of tier 2-C)

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Not gonna work when the passives kick in and Exdeath gets ****** by the castle's influence.
 
The castle is with him at all times since he's the Dark Lord, so it's 100% in character for him.
 
Just gonna note, Exdeath doesn't resist all of the passives at all, he resists some of them, and that ain't enough.
 
Rabbit2002 said:
Don't know if Exdeath can resist concept type 1, void manip, biological, size, transmutation, many other passive stuff
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Do those start the moment the battle begins? It just says that it can forcefully duplicate one's being and conceptually removed from concepts of Pain, Time, and Existence, and affect Gravity related limitations, not that it always does all of that

This and 2 other are the scans used for bio manip, but it doesn't even say how long it takes, and Exdeath's resistance to transmutation covers things like that and size manipulation
 
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Exdeath isn't getting through all of this.

Spatial Manipulation, Quantum Manipulation, Soul Manipulation, BFR, Perception Manipulation, Void Manipulation, Chaos Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1), Time Manipulation, Gravity Manipulation, Pain Manipulation, Forced Duplication, Technology Manipulation, Law Manipulation, Physics Manipulation, Fate Manipulation, Morality Manipulation, Transmutation, Corruption (Type 1 and 2), Biological Manipulation, Size Manipulation, Existence Erasure, Empathic Manipulation, Memory Manipulation, Biological and Power Absorption, Madness Manipulation (Type 1 and 3), Body Puppetry, Power Mimicry, Information Analysis, Subjective Reality, Fear Manipulation, Possession, Power Nullification and Statistics Reduction

All of these abilities happen the moment his existence is near the castle, or makes any interaction with Kid Dracula. So he's ****** the moment the fight starts.
 
Theglassman12 said:
Exdeath isn't getting through all of this.

Spatial Manipulation, Quantum Manipulation, Soul Manipulation, BFR, Perception Manipulation, Void Manipulation, Chaos Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1), Time Manipulation, Gravity Manipulation, Pain Manipulation, Forced Duplication, Technology Manipulation, Law Manipulation, Physics Manipulation, Fate Manipulation, Morality Manipulation, Transmutation, Corruption (Type 1 and 2), Biological Manipulation, Size Manipulation, Existence Erasure, Empathic Manipulation, Memory Manipulation, Biological and Power Absorption, Madness Manipulation (Type 1 and 3), Body Puppetry, Power Mimicry, Information Analysis, Subjective Reality, Fear Manipulation, Possession, Power Nullification and Statistics Reduction

All of these abilities happen the moment his existence is near the castle, or makes any interaction with Kid Dracula. So he's ****** the moment the fight starts.
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Can you show me how he brings the castle with him everywhere? And I talked about some of them, they don't sound like actual win cons as we don't know how long he takes

Like how do you know the castle passively does the conceptual manipulation every second and how long does it take for the fate manipulation to take effect? And he resists perception manipulation, and absorption
 
The spatial and quantum manip justification just says it can warp quantum space barriers, not that it passively warps space to defeat enemies passively. Gravity manip isn't a win condition. Technology manip isn't gonna do anything here. Its law and physics manipulation isn't enough for a win con, it just "warps physics" like how is this enough to beat someone?

Most mind based stuff like morality is something Exdeath resists. This corruption takes an unknown amount of time. This fear manipulation is fast, but Exdeath has resistance to emotions being altered, as mentioned in his profile. Already countered biological and transmutation, same for size manip. This erasure takes an unknown amount of time too. Does Kid Dracula use this power absorption and mimicry in character?

Subjective reality: Forming something out of your mind isn't gonna help you win a fight. This power null isn't passive, and can he do this to someone several times stronger than 2-C? This one happens gradually, and it doesn't instantly nullify powers

This statistics reduction doesn't show how potent it is, so I don't know how it can be used as a win con

Overall, having a lot of passive hax doesn't just grant you an instant win, its how the abilities work that matters. Exdeath teleports and just shoots magic that KOs him
 
Setsuna_tenma said:
it seperates people from time, existance, life and death don`t see how its going to affect exdeath considering he already isn`t following any of these
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That doesn't even sound like offensive hax tbh, if anything it just grants opponents more resistances lol.
 
Delta333 said:
That doesn't even sound like offensive hax tbh, if anything it just grants opponents more resistances lol.
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and besides, how do we know if it like instantly happens and takes into effect and will stop Exdeath from using any attack that can easily beat Kid Dracula?
 
@Delta333 the concept hax literally controls Exdeath as being a servant of the castle, or conceptually erases him.

@XXKINGXX69 it doesn't take an unknown amount of time, the moment Albus got a hold of a small fraction of Dracula's magic it corrupted him immediately. The power null is passive, the moment he entered the castle his powers is getting nulled and weakened. It's literally a part of Dracula's magic and it's done on contact, so yes it's 100% in character. And Castlevania vastly upscales from Final Fantasy's 2-C scaling so this is much worse for Exdeath, also doesn't help the plot manipulation that would **** over Exdeath the moment the fight starts.
 
Theglassman12 said:
@Delta333 the concept hax literally controls Exdeath as being a servant of the castle, or conceptually erases him.

@XXKINGXX69 it doesn't take an unknown amount of time, the moment Albus got a hold of a small fraction of Dracula's magic it corrupted him immediately. The power null is passive, the moment he entered the castle his powers is getting nulled and weakened. It's literally a part of Dracula's magic and it's done on contact, so yes it's 100% in character. And Castlevania vastly upscales from Final Fantasy's 2-C scaling so this is much worse for Exdeath, also doesn't help the plot manipulation that would **** over Exdeath the moment the fight starts.
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can you show me where it says he brings the castle everywhere he goes?
 
He's the Dark Lord, the Dark Lord controls the castle, as shown with Richter in SOTN where he had full control over the castle thanks to being the Dark Lord, and literally every other character who became the Dark Lord.
 
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He's the Dark Lord, the Dark Lord controls the castle, as shown with Richter in SOTN where he had full control over the castle thanks to being the Dark Lord, and literally every other character who became the Dark Lord.
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How does this mean he summons the castle randomly in a fight? And can you show me kid dracula using those in character?

Theglassman12 said:
@Delta333 the concept hax literally controls Exdeath as being a servant of the castle, or conceptually erases him.

@XXKINGXX69 it doesn't take an unknown amount of time, the moment Albus got a hold of a small fraction of Dracula's magic it corrupted him immediately. The power null is passive, the moment he entered the castle his powers is getting nulled and weakened. It's literally a part of Dracula's magic and it's done on contact, so yes it's 100% in character. And Castlevania vastly upscales from Final Fantasy's 2-C scaling so this is much worse for Exdeath, also doesn't help the plot manipulation that would **** over Exdeath the moment the fight starts.
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Corruption is something he resists. I already countered the power null. How strong is Kid Dracula into 2-C, and wtf is the plot manip gonna do
 
The castle is literally tied to the dark lord, it's always with them with Soma, Richter and several others as examples.

You didn't counter the rest of the hax he has passively. 18 timelines at bare minimum, meaning Exdeath dies to any hit. Rewrite the narrative to win and render all of Exdeath's powers to be destabilized.
 
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